BUSH IS GONE!

Brandon9000 wrote:

It is clear that that was his primary justification, even if he doesn't say the words "primary motivation" each time he mentions it.

I've asked you to find me a speech from the appropriate time period which suggests that something else was the primary motivation. So far, you haven't.

If he never mentioned WMD as the "primary motivation", but gave more than one reason for the invasion of Iraq, how can you possibly know which one of the reasons given for the invasion was the primary motivation?

If Bush cited both spreading democracy and weapons of mass destruction as reason for the invasion without ever stating which one was the more important reason, how do you know that one was the primary motivation and the other one wasn't?

Brandon9000 wrote:

He gave WMD disarmament as the primary justification.

You've made this claim several times now, Brandon, but can you give a single quote where Bush said that WMD were the primary reason for the invasion of Iraq?

You're not just making this up, are you?

Brandon9000 wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:

parados wrote:

It only counts of Brandon says it counts. He can pretend it doesn't and he will hold our heads in the toilet until we agree.

Taunts are now all that's left to you, reasoned argument having failed. I'm still right unless you can find a quotation from president Bush that disproves my assertion. Green Witch is still as wrong as when she made her statement.

You're still incorrect, even though you've dropped points you can't argue against that I raised. Your initial response didn't address what Green Witch actually wrote, but instead the argument you wish to have....

Cycloptichorn

The president didn't give spreading democracy as his primary justification for invasion during the run up to the invasion. He gave WMD disarmament as the primary justification. That was an innacurate assertion by Green Witch. If you can't give me a counter example, I can't imagine what all this other noise is supposed to accomplish.

Amazing you can't see the trap you've fallen into, Brandon.

Here's Green Witch's post:

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Well, let's face it - The Bush Administration is going to be the gold standard of what happens when bible thumping loonies get into power. It will serve as a lesson for generations to come.

(PS - what's Conservative about deposing foreign dictators to spread "freedom" and spending tax money like a bunch of drunkin' frat boys?)

When did she make any mention of WMD? When did she say 'before the invasion, this was the reason given?' The reason given today by Conservatives is that we were 'spreading democracy' in the Middle East. It's too embarrassing to mention the other reasons, which were lies.

Nobody gives a **** about your tired arguments re: the 'primary' justification given at the time, Brandon. Seriously. Why don't you catch up to our modern reality and just admit what you know is true: that Conservatives and Bush supporters have tried to whitewash the whole thing since it was revealed what a mistake they made.

And as I said before: what's conservative about attacking people based on their potential WMD programs, Brandon?

Cycloptichorn

old europe wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:

He gave WMD disarmament as the primary justification.

You've made this claim several times now, Brandon, but can you give a single quote where Bush said that WMD were the primary reason for the invasion of Iraq?

You're not just making this up, are you?

I did above, but I'll repeat it for you:
http://hongkong.usconsulate.gov/ci_ct_iraq_2003031901.html

THE PRESIDENT: My fellow citizens, at this hour, American and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger.

THE PRESIDENT: My fellow citizens, at this hour, American and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger

old europe wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:

He gave WMD disarmament as the primary justification.

You've made this claim several times now, Brandon, but can you give a single quote where Bush said that WMD were the primary reason for the invasion of Iraq?

You're not just making this up, are you?

I did above, but I'll repeat it for you:
http://hongkong.usconsulate.gov/ci_ct_iraq_2003031901.html

Brandon9000 wrote:

It is clear that that was his primary justification, even if he doesn't say the words "primary motivation" each time he mentions it.

I've asked you to find me a speech from the appropriate time period which suggests that something else was the primary motivation. So far, you haven't.

If he never mentioned WMD as the "primary motivation", but gave more than one reason for the invasion of Iraq, how can you possibly know which one of the reasons given for the invasion was the primary motivation?

If Bush cited both spreading democracy and weapons of mass destruction as reason for the invasion without ever stating which one was the more important reason, how do you know that one was the primary motivation and the other one wasn't?

Because he gave this reason consistently, and in critical addresses seeking permission or concurrence it was clear that it was the primary reason. I am at work and have to go to a meeting now, so all of you imbeciles can claim victor

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Because he gave this reason consistently, and in critical addresses seeking permission or concurrence it was clear that it was the primary reason. I am at work and have to go to a meeting now, so all of you imbeciles can claim victor

It seems that Bush also was consistent in giving a "free Iraq" as a reason for invading since we have at least 2 instances of that occurring.

Transcript of President Bush's Speech on Iraq

March 17, 2003


My fellow citizens, events in Iraq have now reached the final days of decision.

For more than a decade, the United States and other nations have pursued patient and honorable efforts to disarm the Iraqi regime without war. That regime pledged to reveal and destroy all of its weapons of mass destruction as a condition for ending the Persian Gulf War in 1991.

Since then, the world has engaged in 12 years of diplomacy. We have passed more than a dozen resolutions in the United Nations Security Council. We have sent hundreds of weapons inspectors to oversee the disarmament of Iraq.

Our good faith has not been returned. The Iraqi regime has used diplomacy as a ploy to gain time and advantage.

It has uniformly defied Security Council resolutions demanding full disarmament.