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THE WAR IN GAZA

 
 
Montana
 
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Thu 15 Jan, 2009 06:26 pm
@okie,
He does not deserve all our respect and he will never ever get any from me. I have zero respect anyone and everyone who has such little regard for innocent human lives. The "oh well, it's part of war" attitude (with a smile of course) of the slime bag just makes me wish I could reach through the tv/computer and rip that **** eating grin right off his evil face.

He's a monster in my eyes and to countless of others and we have just as much right to bash the SOB as you have to defend him. In my eyes, defending Bush would be like defending Hitler.

Do you think Hitler deserved the same respect?
Montana
 
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Thu 15 Jan, 2009 06:53 pm
Like Frank, I'm neither on the left or right. I like to think and speak for myself.
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mysteryman
 
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Thu 15 Jan, 2009 07:56 pm
@Montana,
Quote:
He does not deserve all our respect and he will never ever get any from me. I have zero respect anyone and everyone who has such little regard for innocent human lives. The "oh well, it's part of war" attitude (with a smile of course) of the slime bag just makes me wish I could reach through the tv/computer and rip that **** eating grin right off his evil face.


Like the Chinese embassy that "accidently" got bombed by Bill Clinton?
Like th people that support and encourage abortion (which kills innocent children)?
Like the innocent people that got killed when Clinton ordered the aspirin factory bombed?

I think your contempt is selective, based on who the person is.

Quote:
He's a monster in my eyes and to countless of others and we have just as much right to bash the SOB as you have to defend him. In my eyes, defending Bush would be like defending Hitler.


Your right, you have every right.
Now, please show us all the concentration camps and death camps around the world that Bush has set up.
okie
 
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Thu 15 Jan, 2009 08:03 pm
@Montana,
Montana wrote:

He does not deserve all our respect and he will never ever get any from me. I have zero respect anyone and everyone who has such little regard for innocent human lives. The "oh well, it's part of war" attitude (with a smile of course) of the slime bag just makes me wish I could reach through the tv/computer and rip that **** eating grin right off his evil face.

He's a monster in my eyes and to countless of others and we have just as much right to bash the SOB as you have to defend him. In my eyes, defending Bush would be like defending Hitler.

Do you think Hitler deserved the same respect?

Do you respect instead Saddam Hussein?
Do you respect Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban. Those were the people Bush sent the military after.

Do you respect Winston Churchill, that would be a better comparison to Bush than Hitler. Hitler was a socialist bent upon killing innocent people, more akin to the Islamofasicist, MONTANA, holy cow, do you have any common sense at all? Or because the British dropped a few bombs on Germany, was Winston Churchill a despicable human being and an evil man as you claim about Bush?

You are a nutcase, MONTANA.
Foofie
 
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Thu 15 Jan, 2009 08:28 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

I am not a Democrat...and I am not a liberal.

But Okie...anyone who can find fault with Bill Clinton...who was a good president...and laud George W. Bush, who will more than likely go down in history as THE worst president...really has screwed up priorities.

Amazing!


I do not believe the above. I believe President Bush will be written up by historians as a great war time President, having kept the homeland safe after 9/11. That was the greatest attack on American soil, and he will be a hero for keeping America safe during his two terms of office. Plus, he did achieve victory in Iraq, and was maintaining our effort in Afghanistan.

Only after the election victory of Obama did the stock market tank. Coincidence? History will have its opinion.

Regardless, there are large regions of this country that think highly of President Bush.

I would be pleasantly surprised to see that Obama is just a middle-of-the-road Democrat like generations of Democrats before him. In my opinion, I give credence to the thinking that his being an African-American is a non-sequitor. He is an American Protestant. That is the determiner of his beliefs, I believe.

Endymion
 
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Thu 15 Jan, 2009 08:31 pm
@Foofie,

How can you be so blind? Bush has brought the world to its knees. Maybe not for YOU. But look around.
Foofie
 
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Thu 15 Jan, 2009 08:31 pm
@Montana,
Montana wrote:

He does not deserve all our respect and he will never ever get any from me. I have zero respect anyone and everyone who has such little regard for innocent human lives. The "oh well, it's part of war" attitude (with a smile of course) of the slime bag just makes me wish I could reach through the tv/computer and rip that **** eating grin right off his evil face.

He's a monster in my eyes and to countless of others and we have just as much right to bash the SOB as you have to defend him. In my eyes, defending Bush would be like defending Hitler.

Do you think Hitler deserved the same respect?


Do you realize how offensive the above is? Hitler was obsessed with his racial beliefs, and genocide of Jews. Hitler wanted to colonize Eastern Europe, and turn Slavs into slaves. This is who you compare the American patriot President Bush to?
Foofie
 
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Thu 15 Jan, 2009 08:34 pm
@Endymion,
Endymion wrote:


How can you be so blind? Bush has brought the world to its knees. Maybe not for YOU. But look around.


I looked. I see no one on their knees, whatever that alludes to?

Bush has been a great President, since his job was to protect Americans. He cares about the homeland.

I also respect him as a Texan. Great patriotic state.
Montana
 
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Thu 15 Jan, 2009 08:35 pm
@mysteryman,
Oh for heavens sake, you guys are pain! I said that "IN MY EYES, defending Bush would be like defending Hitler", not that the situations were the same. My point was to show how little respect I have for Bush, not to start a big debate on who's evil and who's not.

I don't have a hell of a lot of respect for most politicians because they lie through their teeth.

Okie, respect is not deserved, it's earned. You can think me a nutcase all you like, but I won't be losing any sleep over it.
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Montana
 
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Thu 15 Jan, 2009 08:40 pm
@Foofie,
Here's another one who doesn't know how to determine what I actually said. I did not compare Bush to Hitler, I simply have the same feelings for both snot rags!!!!!!

Do you understand now? Hello!!!!

You people really like to put words in other peoples mouths and it truly is beyond annoying!
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Endymion
 
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Thu 15 Jan, 2009 08:42 pm
@Foofie,


exactly

blind.
or just a troll
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okie
 
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Thu 15 Jan, 2009 08:46 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

I am not a Democrat...and I am not a liberal.

You've already placed yourself under suspicion of not being honest, Frank, when you claim that.

Quote:
But Okie...anyone who can find fault with Bill Clinton...who was a good president...and laud George W. Bush, who will more than likely go down in history as THE worst president...really has screwed up priorities.

Amazing!

Clinton was a pathetic president, Frank, admit it. And although all the other stuff was more serious, such as the abuse of power, fbi files, whitewater, credible rape allegations, threats against those accusers, foreign campaign cash, pardoning terrorists, Marc Rich, money for technology, Chinese ties, and more stuff that I have forgotten there was so much garbage, any president that would abuse a clueless and inept intern in the oval office should have been shown the door, period. That should have told us enough about the man to get rid of him, but not one lousy Democrat had the honor to stand for anything but their own lousy and pathetic political party.
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old europe
 
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Thu 15 Jan, 2009 08:47 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:
Hitler was a socialist bent upon killing innocent people


Don't be such an idiot, okie. Hitler wasn't a socialist. I understand you'd like to paint Hitler as a leftwing extremist rather than as an extreme rightwing fascist, because it better fits your worldview. However, there are extremists on both sides of the political spectrum, and in spite of the few aspects that the DAP took from its rivals on the other side of the spectrum, that in no way makes the DAP or NSDAP a socialist party, and it certainly doesn't make Hitler a socialist.

Don't be such a ******* moron.
okie
 
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Thu 15 Jan, 2009 08:50 pm
@old europe,
I know, I know, you have been taught this, oe, but the record is clear, Hitler's party was a socialist party, get over it, it happened.
old europe
 
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Thu 15 Jan, 2009 08:59 pm
@okie,
I'm sorry you apparently haven't been taught German pre-WWII history. You make yourself look foolish.
Foofie
 
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Thu 15 Jan, 2009 09:08 pm
@Foofie,
Montana wrote:


He's a monster in my eyes and to countless of others and we have just as much right to bash the SOB as you have to defend him. In my eyes, defending Bush would be like defending Hitler.


The analogy based on "defending" is still highly offensive, in my opinion. You avoided my earlier post where I said the two are totally different. One cannot defend Hitler, because Hitler specifically targeted one group (Jews) for extermination, and hunted them down across Europe. He planned to colonize Eastern Europe. He sent V-2's into London, killing Brits.

George Bush is defensible, since he was just protecting America. No racist obsessions. No colonization of a continent. No V-2's for purposes of terror, and to ultimately conquer an island nation that gave us the Magna Carta.






okie
 
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Thu 15 Jan, 2009 09:15 pm
@old europe,
I just finished some books, one being the prelude to WWII. You are entitled to your own prejudiced opinion, which I think is the popularly held belief, but it is clear the Nazi Party was a socialist party. It is is not uncommon for leftist factions to oppose each other, history records far stranger things, in fact democracies like Britian and the U.S. were allied with Communist Soviet Union and Stalin to defeat Germany. I would suggest, oe, that you shed the indoctrination of intelligentsia, and use simple reasoning, based upon the historical record that is clear and undeniable.

I ran across the following on the internet, and it has "some of the interesting stuff about Hitler's appeal and beliefs, founded upon alot of the same garbage espoused by anti-capitalist type malcontents, eerily similar to what we hear from the left nowadays. I will quote one paragraph that I think is particularly descriptive.

"He championed the rights of workers, regarded capitalist society as brutal and unjust, and sought a third way between communism and the free market. In this regard, he and his associates greatly admired the strong steps taken by President Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal to take large-scale economic decision-making out of private hands and put it into those of government planning agencies. His aim was to institute a brand of socialism that avoided the inefficiencies that plagued the Soviet variety, and many former communists found his program highly congenial. He deplored the selfish individualism he took to be endemic to modern Western society, and wanted to replace it with an ethic of self-sacrifice: "As Christ proclaimed 'love one another'," he said, "so our call -- 'people's community,' 'public need before private greed,' 'communally-minded social consciousness' -- rings out.! This call will echo throughout the world!""

http://jonjayray.tripod.com/hitler.html

The fascinating thing about this is alot of this same crap comes out of the Obama supporter or leftie camp right here in the good ole u.s.a. It is the same type of clap trap emanating from the likes of Jeremiah Wright and his Black Liberation Theology, which is eerily similar to or connected Marxism. Alot of this same attitude explains why I am so actively opposed to the liberalism that is infecting today's politics and in particular the Democratic Party. I believe it to be a very dangerous path to go down.
Montana
 
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Thu 15 Jan, 2009 09:22 pm
@Foofie,
I didn't answer your question because Hitler has absolutely nothing to do with the subject of this thread. I used him simply as an example to express my feeling towards Bush!!!

The thread is not about Hitler, so if you would like to talk about him, I suggest you start your own thread.

My focus is on what's happening now. We can't change the past!
Foofie
 
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Thu 15 Jan, 2009 09:29 pm
@Montana,
Montana wrote:

I didn't answer your question because Hitler has absolutely nothing to do with the subject of this thread. I used him simply as an example to express my feeling towards Bush!!!

The thread is not about Hitler, so if you would like to talk about him, I suggest you start your own thread.

My focus is on what's happening now. We can't change the past!


Still offensive, in my opinion. You see then, your "feelings towards Bush" are offensive, in my opinion, since it made reference to Hitler.

May I assume Jews are in your acquaintance few and far between?



Montana
 
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Thu 15 Jan, 2009 09:37 pm
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:

Montana wrote:

I didn't answer your question because Hitler has absolutely nothing to do with the subject of this thread. I used him simply as an example to express my feeling towards Bush!!!

The thread is not about Hitler, so if you would like to talk about him, I suggest you start your own thread.

My focus is on what's happening now. We can't change the past!


Still offensive, in my opinion. You see then, your "feelings towards Bush" are offensive, in my opinion, since it made reference to Hitler.

May I assume Jews are in your acquaintance few and far between?






I really don't care if you find it offensive. You'll live, unlike the innocent who continue to die at the hands of those who think like you and now that I think of it, I'm extremely offended that you would continuously defend a cold blooded killer. Baby killer at that. Yup, I find that offensive.

You may assume all you want, but you know what they say. I know people from all walks of life, in countries all over the world and we are all equal "in my eyes"!
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