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Let's get rid of the Electoral College

 
 
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 03:19 pm
@Fountofwisdom,
Wouldn't do much good, because Dubya wouldn't understand what the words meant anyway.

So what is your point?
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 03:21 pm
@spendius,
Quote:
That would explain why Americans are so rude on the internet.


That's rather a startling statement, coming as it does from one of the two most insulting and rude Brits on this thread.

(Btw, I'm in fairly good health now, Spendi, thanx for asking earlier.)
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 03:23 pm
@Fountofwisdom,
I lived in England for two years...and loved every minute of it. The country is special...and I still (50 years later) long to go back.

I spent many wonderful days in York...and York Cathedral (along with Lincoln Cathedral) are indelibly etched into my heart.

And Yorkshire pudding is probably called Ambrosia by the gods.

Now I live in New Jersey, which I am happy to announce has decided to dedicate a special day of Thansgiving for the existence of the state of Illinois. It will be called: We Ain't the Bottom of the Barrel Day!
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spendius
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 03:28 pm
@Fountofwisdom,
Not from Hebden Bridge by any chance Fountie?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 03:37 pm
@spendius,
Ashfordly? Emmerdale Farm?
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 03:46 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

Quote:
I have never seen a debate in any line of waiting voters.
Uniformly, the lines r quiet.
In my observation, no one ever seems to be interested in debating


Quote:
That would explain why Americans are so rude on the internet.

U can judge the degree of our relative courtesy for yourself.
I doubt that it is uniform.

Quote:
They spend their lives in uniformity being nice to each
other without getting too close and then they come on here
to vent off their pent up rage on poor deluded, misguided and
ill-conditioned innocents such as myself.

I 've lived most of my life in NY.
Here, we don t spend much time trying to be nice to anyone.
Rather, when in public walking down the street
or waiting in line to pay a cashier in a department store
or waiting in horrible lines at the Motor Vehicle Bureau,
it does not occur to us to say anything. We just stand there quietly,
tho there r no rules against debating nor against electioneering.
We tend to mind our own business.

HOWEVER, I grew up in Arizona, where social norms r a lot different.
There, it is not too unusual to greet a stranger,
passing in the street (tho I did not tend to do it).


I was in New Orleans for a convention immediately before Katrina.
THAT blew my mind; the friendliness of the natives was astonishing.
Waitresses in good restaurants brought me free drinks and free food
that thay recommended. Thay were RIGHT.
Superhedonic eruptions of ineffable culinary felicity enraptured my mouth.
(Obviously, honor and decency required me to take care of the waitresses,
at the end of the evening.)

America is a big place whose inhabitatants r heterogeneous n disparate.
Different cities have different personalities.
I lack sufficient information to compare or contrast it to England.
My only visits to England were to its Heathrow Airport.




Quote:
A bollocking is a dressing-down. A telling off.

That means that your remark was that
the left told us off in November ?
It DID.
The forces of darkness had a victory
over the lovers of personal Freedom.
It was a catastrophic loss
from which I do not believe that America will ever recover.

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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 04:02 pm
@Fountofwisdom,
Are you a communist, Fount ?





David
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 04:15 pm
@Fountofwisdom,
Fountofwisdom wrote:

And where do you live, that makes you so special and smart?

Britain. Thats what makes me smart. Yorkshire, thats what makes me special.

http://www.brainshavings.com/images/ShortBus.jpg
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 04:28 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
If the members are not shouting someone down with rude boos and other assorted noises…it means they are in recess!


That only happens in the set piece stuff Fraank. Like PMQs or a Budget debate. One hears the expression "they all piss in the same pot" at least 10 times a year in the pub. So your telecasts probably give you a one-sided view. It's pretty staid most of the time.

I saw your debate on the first bail-out proposal. Ms Pelosi gave them 2 minutes and they spent most of that thanking the last speaker and congratulating him on the sterling work he was doing on behalf of his constituents and the nation.

Even Mr Obama began today by thanking a few people although he didn't take too long over it so I guess on the damning with faint praise principle they all felt duly insulted. As well they might.

He said he was giving you all $1000. The middle classes he said but that means everybody doesn't it? My advice is spend it. You never know what might happen.

The Washington insiders will take care to neutralise any wild idealistic notions he might have I should imagine.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 05:14 pm
@Fountofwisdom,
Fountofwisdom wrote:

That shows how Americans dont think properly: taking an interest in world affairs is the opposite of dull and empty.
Americans are blinkered by their absurd patriotism. I am perfectly willing to discuss changes to the British system.
The mess up of the American banks has affected the British economy. Britain has been dragged into an illegal war to back up its ally. The Americans having a stupid president affects the world.

That would make more sense if your commentary indicated that you really had a good grasp of significant trends in history and world affairs. Arcane details such as the U.S. electorial college are hardly significant, and frankly none of your concern.

It seems to me that you are equally "blinkered" by an absurd inclination to blame America for your own problems. The liquidity crisis we now face has to do with a bubble in housing markets, the excessive trade in securities used t0 finance them, and an associated breakdown in the credit standards applied. Countries in which these factors were not present are relatively unaffected. Britain notably had its own housing bubble and excesses in the security trade used to finance it. That is what caused the problems with British banks, just as those factors caused ours.

Perhaps you should read up on the history of British imperialism in the Mid east and south Asia. That was the beginning of the world's current problems there - from India/Pakistan, to Iraq and Palestine and even Iran; the current confrontations are all traceable to the follies of British Imperialism.

However, I will not indulge in the rather stupid characterizations of British people such as those you so repeatedly direct towards Americas. Frankly your actions here tell us more about you than about us.
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 06:27 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote:
The liquidity crisis we now face has to do with a bubble in housing markets, the excessive trade in securities used t0 finance them, and an associated breakdown in the credit standards applied.


What do you see as the cause of those George?

And how would you have avoided British imperialism had you been an influential voice at the time?

It's like saying you have the decorators in because the old wallpaper didn't match the new carpet. It is necessary, in order to maintain a semblance of intellectual integrity, to ask why the old wallpaper didn't match the new carpet.

And avoiding such expressions as "It just didn't."
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okie
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 06:43 pm
@Fountofwisdom,
Fountofwisdom wrote:

And where do you live, that makes you so special and smart?

Britain. Thats what makes me smart. Yorkshire, thats what makes me special.

If you are so smart, how come you haven't learned how to include quote boxes when you quote my question? And I've been to Britain, and I didn't notice that everyone there was so smart, fact is why do you choose to live in cubicles and think they are worth a fortune?
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 06:49 pm
@okie,
They are cheaper to heat and thus have a light carbon footprint. And they require very low level maintenance.

Why would anybody be on a tortured high maintenance regimen and causing polar bears to be homeless? That seems radically stupid.
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 06:55 pm
@spendius,
And you haven't been to Britain either. You just think you have.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 07:08 pm
@Fountofwisdom,
Quote:
I have found all the Americans switch straight to abuse. Plus they are so touchy about their system. I mean you dont have to be a genius to spot its crap.
2004 was the biggest shambles anywhere. I think I'm trying to be too subtle.
I mean, any system 200 years old doesnt need changing: der------really? It takes a year to elect a leader. You're kidding right?
Because Americas don't travel they are happy with the crap they have.


If you seriously believe that a system 200 years old needs changing, answer this for me.
Exactly how would you change the current system in England?
After all, the monarchy has been in place for hundreds of years, as has the parliamentary system.
And since the Magna Carta was signed by a British king, would you change that?
After all, it is also well over 200 years old.
But lets not forget, it was the Magna Carta that put the first limits on the powers of the monarchy.
Would you see those limits removed?

If 2004 was the "biggest shambles anywhere", please explain how?
Do you think that because the election was acrimonious?
Do you say that because you didnt like the results?
Exactly HOW was it the "biggest shambles anywhere"?

Americans dont travel?
I have been to 35 different countries, and all of the continents.
How many countries have you been to?
mysteryman
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 07:10 pm
@spendius,
Quote:
Why would anybody be on a tortured high maintenance regimen and causing polar bears to be homeless? That seems radically stupid.


Unless you know something the rest of the world doesnt, polar bears have always been homeless.
They dont build homes, they are semi migratory animals.
So how does anyone cause a polar bear to be homeless?
Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 07:12 pm
The dialogue on this thread was so much more edifying before the national penis measurements began.

Please, please don't feed the trolling... this thread was interesting at one point.
spendius
 
  1  
Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 07:16 pm
@Robert Gentel,
What point was that Bob?

Are you nervous about penis measurement contests?
Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 07:21 pm
@spendius,
The point when the subject of the thread was still being discussed.

No, I'm disinterested. Which is why I ask that it be taken elsewhere instead of derailing this one.
Fountofwisdom
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 11:43 pm
@Robert Gentel,
Do penis measurements go for women posting?
 

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