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Let's get rid of the Electoral College

 
 
Fountofwisdom
 
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Reply Wed 7 Jan, 2009 11:43 pm
@joefromchicago,
I think he meant ordinary Joes or Joe sixpack. Or he could be wrong. I haven't ruled that out.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 08:49 am
Perhaps I was a little too harsh on JTT.
I m beginning to get some qualms of remorse.

We have not heard from him since
I ordered him to go jam his head somewhere.

I hope it did not get STUCK in there.

Perhaps I overreacted.


JTT: u can come back now. All is forgiven.




David
Fountofwisdom
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 09:10 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Jtt probably just got bored by stupid Americans. You yanks consider shouting and abusing people to be debate. It could be because your educational system sucks that you are incapable of mature debate.
Satans auntie is the worst. He is boring as well as stupid. You are just loud and stupid. I can understand why you voted in Bush now.
okie
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 09:38 am
@Fountofwisdom,
Fountofwisdom wrote:

Jtt probably just got bored by stupid Americans. You yanks consider shouting and abusing people to be debate. It could be because your educational system sucks that you are incapable of mature debate.
Satans auntie is the worst. He is boring as well as stupid. You are just loud and stupid. I can understand why you voted in Bush now.

And where do you live, that makes you so special and smart?
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 10:35 am
@Fountofwisdom,
Fountofwisdom wrote:

Quote:
Jtt probably just got bored by stupid Americans.

I suppose it can probably get boring down in an English toilet.


Quote:
You yanks consider shouting and abusing people to be debate.
It could be because your educational system sucks that you are incapable of mature debate.

That allegation is FALSE.
Shouting is not debate; everyone knows that.
Ordering someone to jam his head somewhere
is not debate; I did not pretend that it was DEBATE.

It surprizes me that u 'd think that to be DEBATE !?
because everyone KNOWS that debate involves dispute.
Telling someone to DO something is not dispute.

Quote:

Satans auntie is the worst. He is boring as well as stupid.

I suspect that I know who u mean.
I don 't think much of him; a fellow with bad manners; churlish.
Several weeks ago, I consigned him to the nether regions of IGNORE,
where he now reposes (except when someone dredges him up by QUOTING him).



Quote:

You are just loud and stupid.

If I understand correctly,
it was attributed to you that you are only a female.
Is that true ?


Quote:

I can understand why you voted in Bush now.

Yes; it was to repel an attack from the sinister forces of the left.
That worked out for the best, tho I must say that I never liked
the Bushes
regardless of my having voted for them.





David
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teenyboone
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 11:38 am
@Robert Gentel,
More so, get rid of it! What's the point of voting?
georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 12:12 pm
@Fountofwisdom,
Fountofwisdom wrote:

Jtt probably just got bored by stupid Americans. You yanks consider shouting and abusing people to be debate. It could be because your educational system sucks that you are incapable of mature debate.
Satans auntie is the worst. He is boring as well as stupid. You are just loud and stupid. I can understand why you voted in Bush now.


An interesting example of rather stupid but blatant hypocrisy.

Why is FOW so interested and concerned about something as arcane as our electorial college? Why does he care? Is life so dull and empty in the UK that he needs this diversion?

I suppose that we here could become exorcised about the British monarchy and argue for its elimination. That we don't I believe reflects the fact that most of us recognize that it is not our affair, and not our choice in any event.

I have not seen any of the American posters here indulge in the epithets towards the British that FOW so liberally casts about towards Americans. He is entitled to his opinions, but what motivates his need to so frequently express them here?
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 12:41 pm
@teenyboone,
Quote:
What's the point of voting?


Is it not to pass a few hours in a queue having an American style "debate" with those of your fellows who are doing the same thing.

Let's face it- they just voted in a guy who just told them they had been behaving "profoundly irresponsibly" up to now. Which is code for you being made to behave profoundly responsibly on his watch assuming Congress approves and they were, along with Wall Stret, (he didn't mention America's lovely middle classes except to promise a lollipop) the ones who had got us all into this mess. As if leopards change their spots with a bollocking.

It was a bollocking you know.

Actually it sounded quite similar to a team coach's sermon at half-time in a relegation battle aimed at a team losing 2-0.

It was that or the Big Cheese ushering in the New Command Economy. The NCE.

AKA The National Council for Expansion.

Wall Street didn't blink.

I gather they have discovered some of Mr Madoff's cheques which were not quite in the post. The detectives found them on the blotter of his desk.

No point in voting teeny--mug's game. An ego trip I think.

There are few things funnier than having a pompous idiot explain why he is voting for somebody. I'm not being sexist there because in England no lady would attempt such a ridiculous task. Ladies vote how they are told to vote here. In the main. Why risk domestic tension over something you have no clue about?

OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 12:49 pm
@2PacksAday,
2PacksAday wrote:

The term "flyover states" would no longer serve a purpose,
since I doubt they would feel a need to mention us at all.

That 's absolutely right.
That 's the reason that the Founders set it up that way, to avoid that.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 12:53 pm
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:

Fountofwisdom wrote:

Jtt probably just got bored by stupid Americans. You yanks consider shouting and abusing people to be debate. It could be because your educational system sucks that you are incapable of mature debate.
Satans auntie is the worst. He is boring as well as stupid. You are just loud and stupid. I can understand why you voted in Bush now.


An interesting example of rather stupid but blatant hypocrisy.

Why is FOW so interested and concerned about something as arcane as our electorial college? Why does he care? Is life so dull and empty in the UK that he needs this diversion?

I suppose that we here could become exorcised about the British monarchy and argue for its elimination. That we don't I believe reflects the fact that most of us recognize that it is not our affair, and not our choice in any event.

I have not seen any of the American posters here indulge in the epithets towards the British that FOW so liberally casts about towards Americans. He is entitled to his opinions, but what motivates his need to so frequently express them here?

If I remember accurately,
it has been attributed to FOW that she is only a female.
Thay can get tend toward hysteria.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 01:25 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

Quote:
What's the point of voting?

I remember driving my parents to the polls, about 45 years ago.
Our candidate won the election by 2 votes.

Quote:
Is it not to pass a few hours in a queue having
an American style "debate" with those of your fellows
who are doing the same thing.

During quite a few decades of voting and waiting in many lines,
in both primary n general elections,
I have never seen a debate in any line of waiting voters.
Uniformly, the lines r quiet.
In my observation, no one ever seems to be interested in debating.

Very commonly, or always in NY,
the police r represented at the polls, visibly in uniform.
In NY, there r always signs posted prohibiting "electioneering"
within a designated distance from the polls (maybe 1000 feet?).
Such debates in lines of waiting voters might violate the anti-electioneering law.
We r perfectly free to speak all we want,
as long as there r no complaints, in actual practice,
lines of waiting voters r QUIET and no campaign literature can be distributed either, for the same reason.
All we do is stand there and WAIT until it is our turn to vote.

If a debate were to break out over subject matter not related
to politics, I suspect that police woud approach and say: "Take it outside"
objecting to any disturbance within the polling place.





Quote:
It was a bollocking you know.

What 's that ?





David
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 01:52 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
I have never seen a debate in any line of waiting voters.
Uniformly, the lines r quiet.
In my observation, no one ever seems to be interested in debating


That would explain why Americans are so rude on the internet. They spend their lives in uniformity being nice to each other without getting too close and then they come on here to vent off their pent up rage on poor deluded, misguided and ill-conditioned innocents such as myself.

Dave's report sounds real authentic. Not something you read in the paper. And I do remember noticing, when I saw some queues on our news, at which sight we all shook our heads sadly, that they were more spaced out than a lot of queues I've seen. Many a happy marriage has begun in a queue.

A bollocking is a dressing-down. A telling off. A proper one has four-letter words as a major theme but with public speaking you have to put them in for yourself. Plus some euphemisms. Try it with an accusation of being "profoundly irresponsible" "From the Grand Coulee Dam to the Capitooooooaaal."

I don't know whether the end was cut off by our editors but I sensed a decline in enthusiam on the part of the audience.

And now we know that Dave's a mature person.
Fountofwisdom
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 02:46 pm
@georgeob1,
That shows how Americans dont think properly: taking an interest in world affairs is the opposite of dull and empty.
Americans are blinkered by their absurd patriotism. I am perfectly willing to discuss changes to the British system.
The mess up of the American banks has affected the British economy. Britain has been dragged into an illegal war to back up its ally. The Americans having a stupid president affects the world.
Fountofwisdom
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 02:48 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
And you are stupid: that is why you spout idiocy
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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 02:51 pm
@Fountofwisdom,
Quote:
Britain has been dragged into an illegal war to back up its ally. The Americans having a stupid president affects the world.


Britain was hardly dragged. And while Tony Blair doesn't approach stupid in the manner of GB, he is every bit the war criminal.
Fountofwisdom
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 03:02 pm
@JTT,
I concur. But we are digressing. If anything Blair is worse. I would accept that Bush is too stupid to know he was acting in an idiotic manner. Blair knew he was lying.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 03:03 pm
FountainofWisdom wrote:

Quote:
Jtt probably just got bored by stupid Americans. You yanks consider shouting and abusing people to be debate. It could be because your educational system sucks that you are incapable of mature debate.
Satans auntie is the worst. He is boring as well as stupid. You are just loud and stupid. I can understand why you voted in Bush now.


Wow!

And this is coming from someone who lives where the British House of Parliament meets!

We get telecasts of Parliament sessions, Font. They really kick ass.

If the members are not shouting someone down with rude boos and other assorted noises…it means they are in recess!

C’mon!

Don’t be putting a damper on all these great insults being hurled back and forth by saying something hilarious.




Fountofwisdom
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 03:11 pm
@spendius,
I have found all the Americans switch straight to abuse. Plus they are so touchy about their system. I mean you dont have to be a genius to spot its crap.
2004 was the biggest shambles anywhere. I think I'm trying to be too subtle.
I mean, any system 200 years old doesnt need changing: der------really? It takes a year to elect a leader. You're kidding right?
Because Americas don't travel they are happy with the crap they have.
Fountofwisdom
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 03:15 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Cameron described Brown (our two party leaders) as hubristic and vaccillating.
I couldn't image anyone calling W that.
Fountofwisdom
 
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Reply Thu 8 Jan, 2009 03:17 pm
And where do you live, that makes you so special and smart?

Britain. Thats what makes me smart. Yorkshire, thats what makes me special.
 

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