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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jun, 2013 06:47 pm
@neologist,
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I read your bogus 10 commandments and responded to them already.


Those are not my ten commandments but rather what the bible calls the ten commandments. You do believe in the bible don't you?
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jun, 2013 10:51 pm
@neologist,
OK. Is God all powerful and created everything or is just kind of powerful and only created the stuff you think is good?
neologist
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 12:26 am
RL wrote:
Those are not my ten commandments but rather what the bible calls the ten commandments. You do believe in the bible don't you?
Read Exodus 34 more carefully, RL.
neologist
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 12:40 am
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:
OK. Is God all powerful and created everything or is just kind of powerful and only created the stuff you think is good?
Human suffering has never been part of God's purpose. It is a direct consequence of Edenic sin. You are welcome to show otherwise.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 06:13 am
@neologist,
Quote:
Read Exodus 34 more carefully, RL.


If I were able to read it as careful as you what is it that I would find different about it that I have not already seen?
RABEL222
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 10:44 am
@reasoning logic,
Maybe you should give us your interpretation of the passage since it isent clear to me what point you want to make.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 10:49 am
@neologist,
Quote:
Are you saying that God did create disease?
OK, which god? Not mine.


I know that your God did not create disease, It was my god that created it. "my god is all matter, all the things that still exist even after you have tried to believe they are not real. They are the things that refuse to go away like diseases "such as with theistic psychosis.

My God is reality. Come home neologist
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 10:53 am
@RABEL222,
Quote:
Maybe you should give us your interpretation of the passage since it isent clear to me what point you want to make.


I have not yet found a theist who I have disagreed with their interpretation of the passage. As a matter of fact I can not recall a theist who was willing to explain why those were not the ten commandments.
RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 11:02 am
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

RABEL222 wrote:
OK. Is God all powerful and created everything or is just kind of powerful and only created the stuff you think is good?
Human suffering has never been part of God's purpose. It is a direct consequence of Edenic sin. You are welcome to show otherwise.
So that is why God preferred Adam and Eve to be drones rather than autonomous thinkers? Were it not for Satan we would still be naked and oblivious...

How much does consciousness mean to you?
neologist
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 05:09 pm
@RexRed,
RexRed wrote:
RABEL222 wrote:
OK. Is God all powerful and created everything or is just kind of powerful and only created the stuff you think is good?
neologist wrote:
Human suffering has never been part of God's purpose. It is a direct consequence of Edenic sin. You are welcome to show otherwise.
So that is why God preferred Adam and Eve to be drones rather than autonomous thinkers? Were it not for Satan we would still be naked and oblivious...
How much does consciousness mean to you?
Adam and Eve were given free will. They were also given a perfect conscience, perfect moral direction. They did have one choice in the area of morality, however: the choice of whether or not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and bad. In other words, they were given the choice of overruling their conscience.
As for whether we would still be naked, it might be wrong to speculate. But how would you expect one to approach certain activities - arc welding comes to mind - or how about stone masonry?
neologist
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 05:10 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:
I wrote:
Read Exodus 34 more carefully, RL.
If I were able to read it as careful as you what is it that I would find different about it that I have not already seen?
The dichotomy
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 05:16 pm
@neologist,
Quote:
Adam and Eve were given free will. They were also given a perfect conscience, perfect moral direction. They did have one choice in the area of morality,


What was this one choice that they had? They seen their nakedness so God made them clothes? Why would God find a need to make them clothes?
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 05:19 pm
@neologist,
Quote:
The dichotomy


OK explain your view that is different than mine, I will consider your point of view.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 07:08 pm
@reasoning logic,
Sorry! This query was meant for neiologist not you.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 07:10 pm
@neologist,
They had arc welders 10,000 years ago. Who would have thought it!!
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neologist
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 08:26 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:
What was this one choice that they had?
Finish reading post.
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neologist
 
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Reply Sun 23 Jun, 2013 08:54 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:
OK explain your view that is different than mine, I will consider your point of view.
Already explained here:
http://able2know.org/topic/213749-3#post-5321378
And here:
http://able2know.org/topic/213769-2#post-5325857
And again I say: Students who don't do their homework don't get answers to the hard questions.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jun, 2013 06:51 pm
@neologist,
Quote:
Already explained here:
http://able2know.org/topic/213749-3#post-5321378
And here:
http://able2know.org/topic/213769-2#post-5325857
And again I say: Students who don't do their homework don't get answers to the hard questions.


To be honest I was not able to see a good argument from you.

Were you saying that in exodus 34
that there were more than ten commandments?
neologist
 
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Reply Mon 24 Jun, 2013 11:07 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:
To be honest I was not able to see a good argument from you... .
Dismissing an argument by labeling it not good is a logical fallacy, even if you might happen to be correct. I would consider it a gesture of respect if you would specify.
RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 25 Jun, 2013 02:46 am
@neologist,
Sure there are more than ten commandments there are hundreds of them, there are lots of statutes, rules and even codes of conduct laid out in the Bible. Stories with social ramifications. Though these stories are not always true people still derive their moral standards from them.

The Bible says we will take up serpents and they will not harm us.. To some that is a call to handle snakes.

The new testament logic is not the end all of spirituality..

For instance it supposes that we are born alien to God and need to be reborn to meet God's standards.

This is the very seed of racism. It tricks the person into thinking because of something they have experienced they have divorced themselves from the human race and have then been born into a superior family...

The offspring of God... Is sounds so exclusive and elitist.

Rather, there is the idea that we are all born with a spark of the divine and all we need to do is fan the flame and we will all mature into more enlightened beings.

So we have the elitists that say, I don't want to help the poor if they are not part of my religion... I'll help an embryo but I won't help the heathen.

Should laws be resting upon a foundation of religion and spiritual elitism?
 

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