California Voters Approve Gay-Marriage Ban

@spendius,

But this was rather interesting I thought--

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and having been so impressed by the vibrancy and physical challenge of the sport she asked to cover further rugby league events.

Seems a bit like a little girl with her nose pressed against the toffee-shop window to me.

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@spendius,

I'll bump that one for myself.

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@spendius,

Twice if need be.

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@spendius,

Don't normally click on outside links, but good information, Spendi.
Anyone who would tell you that homosexuality is not a health risk is misrepresenting the facts. And, would you not think the health consequences might be one major reason the practice is forbidden by God?

BTW, I got my degree in psychology in 1964. And its true. Homosexuality was removed from the list of character disorders as a result of pressure from the large number of APA members who themselves were gay.

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@reasoning logic,

reasoning logic wrote:

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It's homosexual behavior that is a sin.
Exactly what is there about homosexuality that is sinful?

Note: I said homosexual behavior. That applies, BTW, to homosexual acts committed by heterosexuals.

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@reasoning logic,

reasoning logic wrote:

We are evolving and no longer believe what our senses tell us all the time, "Now we try to use logical reasoning to support our ideas.

So when you smell smoke and see flames in your sofa, I suppose you engage in a syllogistic dialogue with yourself.

Fire destroys things.
Some fires produce warmth and cook our food.
The sofa fire seems to fall into the set of destroy.
Therefore we should put away the hot dogs until later

But wait! The hot dogs are nearly done. . . .

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@neologist,

Did you notice that I said we do not use them all of the time ? What I was meaning was that we do not rely on our senses alone to make judgement calls

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Gays Beat Up 'Straights'? Hilarious 'Daily Show' Segment Addresses Evangelical's Oppression Claim (VIDEO)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/18/gays-beat-up-straights-daily-show_n_3461919.html

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@reasoning logic,

What do we rely on then?

I think the idea is that when the sensual calculation of the broad masses has societal and cultural efficiencies in mind, and what else could justify it being done, there is a God to reinforce the conclusion.

Individual calculations would be inefficient.

The carrots and sticks come in afterwards.

If the sticks are less severe in our age it is merely because we can afford them to be and references to those of 2--3 thousand year old versions are by-the-by. The tribes described in the Bible could not have afforded an incarceration industry such as we have.

It was efficient to use a felon sentenced to death in such a way as to have the maximum deterrent effect on a bangs for bucks basis. And a quick, humane death in the terrible times of those days was considered a blessing by many.

The application of our standards to Biblical times, rl, is utterly ridiculous.

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@RexRed,

Stop dropping straw men, Rex. The idiocy of true homophobics has nothing to do with God's standards any more than does the gentle personality of many gays.

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@neologist,

Once again, straw men scare away the birds, hehe Smile

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@spendius,

Carrot sticks, then holy wafers.. blood, wine, and then no telling what they will try and feed you next. Smile

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@RexRed,

RexRed wrote:

Once again, straw men scare away the birds, hehe

Riighht! But not until bird droppings have fouled the water.

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@neologist,

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The idiocy of true homophobics has nothing to do with God's standards any more than does the gentle personality of many gays.

What is God's standard on homosexuality? I would think that if a God created them he must find value in them.

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@neologist,

You really should be careful who or what you believe.

You would never know what this video is about by it's title. you would have to watch it.

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@reasoning logic,

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You really should be careful who or what you believe.

So should you rl.

You believe that your concept of God is definitive due to a faulty or careless reading of the texts which you are too eager to embrace not to arouse suspicion.

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@reasoning logic,

reasoning logic wrote:

I wrote:
The idiocy of true homophobics has nothing to do with God's standards any more than does the gentle personality of many gays.
What is God's standard on homosexuality? I would think that if a God created them he must find value in them.

God did not create blindness, cerebral palsy, autogynophilia, or homosexual feelings. They are products of humanity's fall from perfection. We all struggle with our inherited flaws. We all sin and fall short. Those of us who persist in sin or try to justify our sin, . . . well, that is another issue.

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@reasoning logic,

Guess I'll never know unless you explain in your own words.

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@neologist,

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God did not create blindness, cerebral palsy, autogynophilia, or homosexual feelings. They are products of humanity's fall from perfection

Are you being serious? Even the bible is a historical reference to human behavior but I guess you are not able to see it?

Do you really have an interest in truth?

If you do I would recommend you reading the only ten commandments that the bible calls the ten commandments.

Exodus 34: 28 start at Exodus 34: 1 if you have a desire to read it all.

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@reasoning logic,

Are you saying that God did create disease?
OK, which god? Not mine.
I read your bogus 10 commandments and responded to them already.

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