California Voters Approve Gay-Marriage Ban

I would chose to call it immoral for incest to exist only because I think that there would be some fathers who would take advantage of their daughters and not allow them the free will to decide for themselves but if older adults who where related and have already been sexually active decided to come together I would say be happy and not tell me about it. Some may think I am a bad person for saying this but I would consider them to be the same as any other couple if that is what they chose but I wish that they would consider the cons of such a relationship.
Just because I disagree with your behavior does not mean that I will not try and help you make the best of the situation that you may be in.

I do not think that Jesus would do this but history suggest that his followers did.


Luke 19:27

Try not to label them as any other than pedophiles. I knew of several. Here's one: http://able2know.org/topic/52045-1
He was slated to enter Washington State's civil commitment program. If he lived, that is.

And that is essentially what we do. I'm sure there are incestuous adult couples out there that don't tell people. That's essentially what I'm stating we should do with homosexuality.

But imagine those incestuous couples start doing what the homosexuals have done. Not only do they want to be allowed to continue their perverse behavior behind closed doors in their own homes... now they want you to support that behavior by providing them marriage benefits out of your hard earned money. Those incestuous couples want to silence you if you even bring up the possibility that it might be immoral. So they also want to take away your right to free speech because you disagree with how they live. Now they've taken it a step further and they want to force their incestuous teachings on your children in school. Whether you agree with their behavior or not, they're going to teach your children that having sex with and marrying your family members, as long as both parties are consenting adults, is just as much of a moral lifestyle as heterosexuality and that if your children disagree, they are promoting hatespeech.

Do you think that's acceptable?

How do you not see that's nothing more than an excuse. I'm not trying to label them anything. I'm calling it what it is. A male that wants to ahve sex with another male who happens to be underage... is engaging in homosexual behavior.

Don't be afraid to call a spade a spade because someone like RedRex might call you a bigot or a closet homosexual. That's how they've managed to silence the opposition... not because their position is a standard of truth.

You cannot blame the religion for the actions of people who do not follow what it teaches.

That scripture is not talking about Jesus. It explicitly states it is a parable and he's referring to God and Judgment Day.

Torchy was a switch hitter as are others I have known of.

Is it just a coincidence that many of the leaders of the homosexual agenda advocate for such deviant behaviors as well as homosexuality?

Do you think that Jesus was telling the truth when he said " Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father?

Of course, because he was a representative of God here on earth. That does not make him God himself however.

You quoted verse John 14:7... or part of it.

This is John 14:10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works.

Notice how he makes a clear differentiation between himself and God who is residing in him.

Which means he engaged in homosexual behavior.

And if that guy in that pic I posted a few posts back isn't a pedophile... I'll eat my hat.

ahahahahahahah I told you

According to the NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association) publication “A Way Forward,” Kameny spoke at a NAMBLA membership conference in Baltimore in 1981.

This I am about to post is the very heart of marriage equality.

It is the foundation that marriage equality rests upon.

The law should actually be one of the ten commandments but instead the Bible does the exact opposite thing and then leaves the world to to recover.

Ready for this?

The commandment is: Thou shalt not marry property...

When a man (or woman) takes many wives (husbands) he reduces a women to the state of property.

This is why polygamy is forbidden. Thou shalt not marry property...

When an adult marries or has sex with a child... the child is property of their parents or the state. Why? Because they are not completely an adult. Thou shalt not marry property...

When a person buys and sells animals and the earth itself is a thing we steward as humans. Animals are also property. Thou shalt not marry property...

When LGBT couples marry, Neither party is property. They are equal adult souls.

When male and female marry they are still spouse and spouse.. They each have an equal say in the marriage.

So a stranger cannot marry the property of another person.

A harem of women or men and they become degraded from a full relationship of equality.

The women though gaining in number, they lose in social equality. Thou shalt not marry property.

Equality does not mean that every form of marriage is legal, it means we marry in equality and not in property.

We cannot use the Bible to live by because it says we can make people into property (slaves) and marry them. Talk about a slippery slope.

The gays want to marry in equality and the Bible condones marrying in property. The gays are accused of the latter. Talk about a errant, twisted knight move in logic. So the ending conclusion condemns the wrong thing. So the truth becomes a lie and the Bible directly facilitates that lie.

Thus in order to live with dignity we marry in equality and not in property...

Very nice, Rex. But there is a reason for the headship principle that has nothing to do with sexuality. Think about it. I'll be gone for a while. But I'll be watching.

That does not mean there cannot be leadership within equality... But it remains to be questioned in each case who will really wears the pants.

Not both?
Sorry. I know I said I was going to step aside. Just couldn't resist this one.

Nothing in that post has anything to do with marriage benefits... at all.

You make some ridiculous platitudes about equality but your entire premise is flawed. First of all, when two people marry they become one. The entire principle of marriage in the bible is equality.

Second, your assertions that these other acts aren't "equal" is fine as far as your opinion is concerned. However, my opinion is that homosexuality is not equal either. In nearly every scenario you have at least one partner who is taking advantage of any number of factors such as poor upbringing, poor genetics, weak mentality and/or a weak emotional state.

Now you may disagree with that, but the pedophiles would disagree with your assertion of the equality of their acts. They would argue that the age of consent is much too high and should be lowered. They would argue children are much more capable of making sexual decisions than you are giving them credit for. They would argue that the age of consent for thousands of years was much lower than where it is now. The incestuous couples would tell you that they're not talking about a father having sex with his 8 year old son but his adult son. They would tell you that a pair of 23 year old siblings are consenting adults and their marriage is just as equal as you are claiming your homosexual marriage is. They polygamists would all tell you that they were all consenting partners and adults as well and every wife in every marriage would tell you that they are all equal to one another.

So why is it that you get to force your opinion on those groups that YOU disagree with... but you get your panties in a wad when someone else attempts to force their opinion on you because they disagree with your lifestyle?

What is your opinion of heterosexuals doing the same?

Its the christian thing to do therefore quite ok.