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I TOOK DOWN MY AMERICAN FLAG FROM MY HOUSE

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 9 Nov, 2008 06:35 pm
@spendius,
I am aware of an accident with a shotgun
wherein his friend sustained some wounds to his neck, if I recall accurately.

I have never denied that.




David
spendius
 
  1  
Reply Mon 10 Nov, 2008 11:32 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Well- that's just an incident. An accident.

"Walk it off" is a glimpse into real right-wingery.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 10 Nov, 2008 04:26 pm
@squinney,
I'm in the Reserves. Why do you ask?
Bella Dea
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2008 08:09 am
@Baldimo,
Because you might get lynched, what with being a protector of this horrid country and all.

Rolling Eyes

Doesn't stuff like this piss you off?
Baldimo
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2008 09:32 am
@Bella Dea,
I don't get where the "get lynched" came from.
Bella Dea
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2008 10:31 am
@Baldimo,
Because you obviously love your country (enough to serve it) and there are folks here who are now openly against America because of who the president will be.

You might be struck down for defending this horrid country.

Course, now that I go back and read....it appears you no longer want to defend this country.

Hm. Stupid me.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2008 11:12 am
@Bella Dea,
I won't be able to defend it, if there is no funding. What should I do throw stones from my Chinook and hope the terminal velocity of the rock is enough to hurt or kill the enemy? Military funding has always been cut under Democrats. I have a friend who was with the 101st in the late 90's. He said the unit was so underfunded that they couldn't afford blanks for training. They had to run around and yell "bang bang" to simulate firing their weapons. Do you think someone wants serve under that? I don't. If and when my country needs me and they are willing to provide the proper funding I will return but I don't see that happening under a democrate.
Bella Dea
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2008 01:12 pm
@Baldimo,
You'd rather serve under a republican who'd send you to the desert to fight a war that has no meaning?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2008 01:25 pm
@Bella Dea,
Before we sink down into the tar pit of Marxism,
candor moves me to admit one benefit of the victory
of the anti-war Demos, to wit:
this pointless war will be abruptly ended
and the troops will be brought home.

Our mission in Iraq was FULLY and successfully accomplished
when Saddam was overthrown, so that he coud no longer vindictively
smuggle in a nuke on us, or other WMD. Enuf = enuf.

I have no idea Y W is continuing the fighting
after Saddam has been defeated. We did not go there to kill all the Moslems.





David
Baldimo
 
  1  
Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2008 03:00 pm
@Bella Dea,
Your opinion of a war with no meaning is not my meaning of a war with no meaning. I think the actions we took in Hati and Kosovo were pointless and servered no purpose. We still have people in Kosovo and for what reason? There is no reason for them to be there. We don't see eye to eye on this one.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2008 04:05 pm
I believe that all foreign aid
is unconstitutional.

Defensive wars ARE constitutional.
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2008 05:02 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Do you claim that Iraq was a defensive war?? I have a few pages of prose by Orwell you may enjoy. (except youd read it as non fiction)
spendius
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2008 06:06 pm
@farmerman,
It's impossible to enjoy Orwell. He was a very miserable guy. Possibly with good cause.

I could make a case that Iraq is a defensive operation.
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2008 06:14 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Before we sink down into the tar pit of Marxism,
candor moves me to admit one benefit of the victory
of the anti-war Demos, to wit:
this pointless war will be abruptly ended
and the troops will be brought home.

Our mission in Iraq was FULLY and successfully accomplished
when Saddam was overthrown, so that he coud no longer vindictively
smuggle in a nuke on us, or other WMD. Enuf = enuf.

I have no idea Y W is continuing the fighting
after Saddam has been defeated. We did not go there to kill all the Moslems.





David


The fighting was continued because there are other would-be dictators, most likely some as savage and capable as Saddam Hussein, who would have been more than happy to take his place and intended to do so. It was not Saddam the man we wished to eradicate, but the threat of instability, the export of terrorism, and the danger posed to surrounding neighbors. The way to do that is to leave a nation imbedded with and empowered to achieve a better ideal. And that's why we went on fighting. It remains to be seen whether it will have been worth it, but the prospects seem brighter all the time.
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2008 07:05 pm
@Foxfyre,
Quote:
The fighting was continued because there are other would-be dictators, most likely some as savage and capable as Saddam Hussein, who would have been more than happy to take his place and intended to do so. It was not Saddam the man we wished to eradicate, but the threat of instability, the export of terrorism, and the danger posed to surrounding neighbors



Ill bet that you believe STACKER II, can melt away fat and that "MAle ENhancement" is a medical term.
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patiodog
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2008 07:22 pm
@spendius,
Quote:
It's impossible to enjoy Orwell. He was a very miserable guy. Possibly with good cause.


I disagree. Down and Out In Paris and London is laugh-out-loud funny, if you've got the right turn of mind.
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 11 Nov, 2008 09:05 pm
@patiodog,
PPD wrote:
Down and Out In Paris and London is laugh-out-loud funny, if you've got the right turn of mind.


I agree, although the book ends rather abruptly. I read that probably 40 years ago, but i still recall the Russian, and the accounts of what went on in the kitchen of the four-star hotel. Something about which one ought not to think while dining out.
patiodog
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2008 12:18 am
@Setanta,
If the kitchen I worked in was any indication, things have improved a bit in the intervening decades. (To be honest, I found Down and Out in Paris to be risible. London was just depressing -- but, then, he had a job in Paris...)
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 12 Nov, 2008 02:21 am
@Foxfyre,
Quote:

The fighting was continued because there are other would-be dictators,
most likely some as savage and capable as Saddam Hussein,
who would have been more than happy to take his place and
intended to do so. It was not Saddam the man we wished to eradicate,
but the threat of instability
, the export of terrorism, and the danger posed
to surrounding neighbors. The way to do that is to leave a nation imbedded with
and empowered to achieve a better ideal. And that's why we went on fighting.
It remains to be seen whether it will have been worth it,
but the prospects seem brighter all the time.

I must respectfully dissent
from your assertion that:
" It was not Saddam the man we wished to eradicate,
but the threat of instability. . . "; that 's not what we signed on for.

That 's not what W told us before he invaded.
As a citizen of a port city, I was quite relieved to have Saddam
overthrown, in that I had felt exposed to Saddam 's whims as to
his sneaking in a nuclear attack, on a boat approaching the city.

The war was against a homicidal maniac with a grudge against us
(for humiliating him in Kuwait) and access to nukes. The war was not
sold to us as a foreign aid project to export democracy to Iraq.





David
hingehead
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2008 12:18 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Pfffft!
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