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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 07:08 pm
Have you heard about these?

It seems a 22 year old woman, "Natalie Dylan" (google it) is auctioning off her virginity through a licensed Nevada brothel. The current bid is over $1,000,000.00. She intends to use the money to pay for graduate school.

The idea came from a research project she was working on about women who acution off their virginity.

I don't know whether to be appalled or to applaud.

What do you think?
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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 07:31 pm
@boomerang,
WTF is it about a bit of skin (that may or may not still be there or ever have been there) that makes some men want to pay money and some cultures (still including remnants of our own) go apeshit?

I just don't understand the psychology of this.

djjd62
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 07:32 pm
i don't get it, i don't see the myth and mystery of virginity

take that money to the brothel and get some real professional action
dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 07:43 pm
@djjd62,
I guess it's some evolutionary psychology thing.....like somewhere deep in there they know it's only their genes sitting in there, not some other fella's...

I assume that is what the virginity thing is all about...men wanting to try and enforce that their kids are their kids....hence the uber-control of women and all the double standard crap and all the anxiety about and debasement of women's sexuality through the millenia.

But here and now in America?

Are these guys knuckle-dragging trogs, or is this still a big thing for lots of guys in the modern west?

I am sure I have never been friends/lovers with a fella who gave a good goddamn.



edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 07:53 pm
@dlowan,
Hell, if they are dumb enough to pay it, and she doesn't mind the physical contact, I say, Go for it.
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 08:02 pm
@dlowan,
I think the psychology is much uglier than that, but, I am a cynic and then some...
Thomas
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 08:15 pm
@dlowan,
dlowan wrote:
WTF is it about a bit of skin (that may or may not still be there or ever have been there) that makes some men want to pay money and some cultures (still including remnants of our own) go apeshit?

By that standard, Natalie made a smart decision -- who wouldn't sell a bit of skin for $1,000,000, and counting? (I would agree, by the way.)
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 08:22 pm
I would like to know how she authenticates the product that she wishes to sell
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If your stomach can handle it, please read the article, "Hymen Repair on the Arabic Internet" by Bjoern Bentlage, Thomas Eich, and edited by yours truly, for the International Institute for the Study of Islam in the Modern World. Bentlage and Eich essentially conducted a study on texts, position papers, and public debate on the Arabic Internet over the controversial issue of hymen repair, a surgical practice in which the remains of a woman's broken hymen are repaired or reconstructed. The surgery is used by women with a broken or torn hymen who are about to be married and must prove they are virgins.

Are you feeling nauseous yet? Okay, moving on. As you might assume, women with torn hymens face a wide variety of harsh societal consequences if it's discovered by their future husbands, so this surgical practice has become more and more popular for women trying to escape such persecution. Of course, the practice is highly controversial and hotly debated by Muslim men (and a few fundamentalist Christian men as well) everywhere, who are mortified that the practice deceives men into thinking they're marrying a virgin when they're not. Prominent Muslim doctors acknowledge that just because a woman has a broken hymen doesn't mean she's had pre-marital sex

http://heidischnakenberg.blogspot.com/2007/05/hyman-reconstruction-and-public-debate.html

She may be a virgin, she may not.
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 08:26 pm
@Thomas,
A million is chump change. Wait til it hits pay per view.
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Shaunnas Dad
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 08:59 pm
A million!
..and I was lucky to give mine away.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 09:00 pm
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:

I think the psychology is much uglier than that, but, I am a cynic and then some...

Yep.

Its still about power, control and ego. She chose me, Money = power, I'll be famous. etc

Is any part of a mans sexuality not about power? plus I'd rather have sex with a woman who knows what she wants and is confident enough to communicate that. Not a girl who has no idea.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 09:24 pm
@dlowan,
Yeah.
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boomerang
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 09:30 pm
I think the psychology has to do with possessing something that no one else can or will be able to in the future; something that "belongs" entirely to you. Something you know other people want (which makes the auction a a brilliant idea on "Natalie"'s part).

I find that I just keep wondering about it in light of buying a novel experience. Or about buying a work of art. The fact that you have it means nobody else can have it. That's worth a lot of money to the right person.
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chai2
 
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Reply Fri 26 Sep, 2008 09:45 pm
@boomerang,
A million?

I wouldn't be worrying about graduate school, that's for damn sure.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2008 07:48 am
What a bunch of puritans you all are?

If a man and a woman want to set up a sexual encounter centered around virginity... who cares?

Are you really making the argument that sex should be logical, or sensible? You want to judge what sexual practices are acceptable? Sex is about desire, passion and fantasy -- yes fantasy. Denying this is prudish.

Deflowering a virgin is a cultural theme in literature from the Bible, to Lolita to Seinfield. This is a very common fantasy-- as many men (including those bidding on this experience) will tell you.

What right do you have to force your morals into someone else's sexuality?

I thought that as a society we were moving past this.

boomerang
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2008 09:33 am
@ebrown p,
Huh?

I don't see anyone criticising her for her decision or trying to force their morals onto someone else's sexuality.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2008 09:41 am
@ebrown p,
ebrown p wrote:
What right do you have to force your morals into someone else's sexuality?

What evidence do you see that anyone is trying to?
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2008 01:55 pm
The term "debasement of women" used for an act between two consenting adults; the implication that the "virgin" fantasy isn't common to normal men; and the feminist pseudo-psychology crap about power in sex.

These are parts of the modern "feminist" flavor of puritanism that annoy me.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2008 02:45 pm
@ebrown p,
we can make the exact same observation of feminine rape fantasies. The correct answer is supposed to be change who we are, at all costs. Modern behaviour standards are Puritanism at its worst, which is why increasingly the masses blow off all of the ideology, and do what feels right. Modern feminist ideology feels like soviet ideology circa 1975, still mouthed and taught, but not believed by any but the most fanatical of the devotees.
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boomerang
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2008 03:49 pm
@ebrown p,
dlowan used the term "debasement of women's sexuality" but nothing about "debasement of women".

I'll let her speak for herself if she wants to but I think you misinterpreted her comments.

hawkeye, this is in no way related to your rape stuff.
 

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