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To me it means that Obama has no personal inhibitions about associating with such people and is quite willing to look the other way in order to gain advantage from such people.

And it calls into question about what Obama really believes and/or stands for and/or is willing accept as tolerable which, when added to some of his more unguarded campaign rhetoric and some of his writings, is disturbing.

Congress will respond to the demands of the people to do that.

As I said, Obama disciples all seem to be indifferent to what he really believes or stands for or they are in an enormous state of denial.

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To me it means that Obama has no personal inhibitions about associating with such people and is quite willing to look the other way in order to gain advantage from such people.

Is Ayers under investigation or indictment for his activities right now? Or is he a rather mainstream academic activist involved in education reform? If he had/has good ideas about education, why shouldn't Obama work with him on that front?

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And it calls into question about what Obama really believes and/or stands for and/or is willing accept as tolerable which, when added to some of his more unguarded campaign rhetoric and some of his writings, is disturbing.

Really? What question, exactly? What is it that you think he believes and/or stands for that is disturbing?

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Congress will respond to the demands of the people to do that.

You have a lot of faith in government for a conservative, but you didn't answer my question. What does this Ayers nonsense have to do with our current situation. How does it affect any potential solution.

And yet Obama thought Ayers was a great guy until he became a political liability and then 'he wasn't the Bill Ayers I knew' or more recently "he was just somebody in the neighborhood".

I think he has clearly demonstrated that he tolerates a whole lot of things most of us do not find tolerable. He only says that he rejects them when they become political liabilities. I do not find that an attractive characteristic in the person I want to be my President.

If it was JUST incidental contact for a specific project, it would be less troubling. But as has been detailed on other threads on this subject--See Woiyo's thread for a deeper analysis--

the point is that Ayers quite recently has expressed no repentence or regret of his terrorist days and almost certainly was expressing no regret in his interactions with Obama.

I think he has clearly demonstrated that he tolerates a whole lot of things most of us do not find tolerable.

The Ayers 'nonsense' as you put it has nothing to do with our current situation.

It does have a place in analyzing the overall scope of a candidate's priorities, mindset, threshhold of tolerance for unacceptable things, view of the world, and ideology which COULD have a very strong bearing in what that candidate might view as acceptable solutions to anything.

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This was former revolutionary terrorist Bill Ayers back in his old Weather Underground days, right? Imagine what Sarah Palin is going to do with this incendiary quote as she tears into Barack Obama this week.

Only one problem. The quote is from Joe Vogler, the raging anti-American who founded the Alaska Independence Party. Inconveniently for Palin, that's the very same secessionist party that her husband, Todd, belonged to for seven years and that she sent a shout-out to as Alaska governor earlier this year. ("Keep up the good work," Palin told AIP members. "And God bless you.")

Only one problem. The quote is from Joe Vogler, the raging anti-American who founded the Alaska Independence Party. Inconveniently for Palin, that's the very same secessionist party that her husband, Todd, belonged to for seven years and that she sent a shout-out to as Alaska governor earlier this year. ("Keep up the good work," Palin told AIP members. "And God bless you.")

Fox, how do you square your nameless fears about Obama, with Palin's associations which are just as bad, if not worse? Her husband was a member of a secessionist, Anti-American group. For YEARS.

Ah, yes. You won't name them. You won't name anything. We should just trust your judgment that you have lots of specifics but you just won't tell us.

Where's the outrage, Sarah Palin has been asking this week, in her attacks on Obama's fuzzy ties to Ayers? The question is more appropriate when applied to her own disturbing associations.