FINAL COUNTDOWN FOR USA ELECTION 2008

Yes, Sarah has shown she can take criticism, even cruel, malicious, sexist, unfair, and dishonest criticism, and she can take it with poise, grace, and good humor without playing the victim in any respect, which is more than I can say of Senator Obama's ability to even take mild criticism.

(The issue on the US Magazine was not the writer, but the content which was blatantly dishonest in fact and/or omission--it was the worst kind of yellow journalism and the managing editor who is responsible for all content was justifiably exposed and thoroughly humiliated because of it.)

Foxfyre wrote:

Dunno. I sure think her assertion that she would "love to have Palin on" holds no water whatsoever. Very magnanimous of her to maintain 'neutrality' on her show AFTER she has given her chosen candidate some significant face time though, don't you think?

Greenwitch, whom I know to be an Obama supporter, is taking a much more realistic view than Oprah is.

I can see how, having already endorsed a candidate, she might think it better not to use her show to interview any candidates. Can you see how those interviews would be picked apart for bias? Oprah is not stupid -- I am sure she knows how some people would take it if she doesnt have Palin on. But if she says she promised not to have any candidates on, and she hasnt up till now, then she is just being consistent.

I think its all moot anyway. Palin doesnt seem interested in giving interviews.

Well, there is a difference between opinion and factual claims, Fox. I'm not surprised that you don't understand that though.

If you don't want people calling you on your bullshit, don't call them out on it, mkay? You accuse CI of doing something that you constantly do yourself. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Cycloptichorn

05 Sep 2008 01:55 pm
A senior McCain campaign official advises that, despite the gaggle of requests and pressure from the media, Gov. Sarah Palin won't submit to a formal interview anytime soon. She may take some questions from local news entities in Alaska, but until she's ready -- and until she's comfortable -- which might not be for a long while -- the media will have to wait. The campaign believes it can effectively deal with the media's complaints, and their on-the-record response to all this will be: "Sarah Palin needs to spend time with the voters."

Not out of the question are appearances on lighter, fluffier television shows. But -- not for a while.

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Well, there is a difference between opinion and factual claims, Fox. I'm not surprised that you don't understand that though.

If you don't want people calling you on your bullshit, don't call them out on it, mkay? You accuse CI of doing something that you constantly do yourself. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Cycloptichorn

Let's not do this Cyclop. Or I will ask you to back up your statements here. Or is that just opinion too and not a factual claim?

Ah, okay. I did miss this. Sorry.

No, Oprah is not stupid. But she does have herself in a bit of a mess re Palin I think.

Why do you say that Palin is not interested in giving interviews?

Foxfyre wrote:

Yes, Sarah has shown she can take criticism, even cruel, malicious, sexist, unfair, and dishonest criticism, and she can take it with poise, grace, and good humor without playing the victim in any respect, which is more than I can say of Senator Obama's ability to even take mild criticism.

I dont see how it can be good for the top of your ticket to be always trying to draw comparisons between Obama and Palin. I am not even sure how Obama enters into this discussion.

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(The issue on the US Magazine was not the writer, but the content which was blatantly dishonest in fact and/or omission--it was the worst kind of yellow journalism and the managing editor who is responsible for all content was justifiably exposed and thoroughly humiliated because of it.)

Is the writer not responsible for the content? Did you read the article?

I think the McCain campaign and his supporters will stop drawing comparisons between McCain/Palin and other appropriate figures when the Obama/Biden campaign and their supporters stop doing that. Do you foresee that happening any time soon? Do you think it is useful for them to do so?

And yes, I read the article.

Oh, I think the fact that the McCain campaign says she's not 'comfortable' doing interviews and won't be doing any, anytime soon, is a little clue -

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05 Sep 2008 01:55 pm
A senior McCain campaign official advises that, despite the gaggle of requests and pressure from the media, Gov. Sarah Palin won't submit to a formal interview anytime soon. She may take some questions from local news entities in Alaska, but until she's ready -- and until she's comfortable -- which might not be for a long while -- the media will have to wait. The campaign believes it can effectively deal with the media's complaints, and their on-the-record response to all this will be: "Sarah Palin needs to spend time with the voters."

Not out of the question are appearances on lighter, fluffier television shows. But -- not for a while.

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/no_interviews_till_shes_ready.php

It's basically an admission that she is too weak to be interviewed critically at this point.

Cycloptichorn

Foxfyre wrote:

I think the McCain campaign and his supporters will stop drawing comparisons between McCain/Palin and other appropriate figures when the Obama/Biden campaign and their supporters stop doing that. Do you foresee that happening any time soon? Do you think it is useful for them to do so?

The McCain campaign created an ad making the comparison. When did the Obama/Biden campaign draw comparisons between Obama and Palin?

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And yes, I read the article.

I hadnt figured you for a trash mag reader. I have to wait to read it until I get to my sister-in-laws house. Its one of her guilty pleasures.

Well the last time I am aware of was yesterday during Obama's called press conference in which he pretty thoroughly bashed McCain and Palin with all kinds of unflattering comparisons as compared to himself and Bid. And he did this a few hours before McCain's acceptance speech.

And since we are drawing comparisons here, McCain ran a very nice ad congratulating Senator Obama several times during the day and evening of Obama's acceptance speech.

I found the press conference you were talking about here. I watched the whole thing and didnt see him make a single comparison between himself and Palin. So I have no reason to believe it is anyone but the McCain camp making these comparisons. Do you think its a good idea to let the vp pick overshadow the top of the ticket? Its as if McCain isnt even in the room anymore.

there's a real smell of right-wing desperation in the air.

they see their stranglehold on america slipping away.

it would be sad if it weren't so richly deserved.

Do you think its a good idea to let the vp pick overshadow the top of the ticket? Its as if McCain isnt even in the room anymore.

I dont see how it can be good for the top of your ticket to be always trying to draw comparisons between Obama and Palin.

I think the McCain campaign and his supporters will stop drawing comparisons between McCain/Palin and other appropriate figures when the Obama/Biden campaign and their supporters stop doing that.

The McCain campaign created an ad making the comparison. When did the Obama/Biden campaign draw comparisons between Obama and Palin?

Well the last time I am aware of was yesterday during Obama's called press conference in which he pretty thoroughly bashed McCain and Palin with all kinds of unflattering comparisons when he compared them to himself and Biden.