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The 2008 Republican Convention...

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 2 Sep, 2008 12:30 pm
The funny thing about Palin is that the republicans are promoting her five children as something that makes her more qualified to become VP. Does that mean that a woman with 10 children makes her doubly qualified? Is that part and parcel of the so-called "experience" they're trying to push on the American People?

Seems as though the republicans are grasping at anything to promote Palin; how many Americans will that fool?
slkshock7
 
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Reply Tue 2 Sep, 2008 01:05 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
It will only affect our economy if we don't plan it...and the Port gets destroyed or becomes inoperable in the next big hurricane. With wise prior planning, the port, homes and businesses in low-lying ground can be moved over time with no effect on the economy other than a steady expense which the economy should adjust to quite easily. And when finished, the fix will be good for another century, at least, vice the next couple years. I'm not even sure the port needs to be moved (per this document the Port sustained $1.6B damages in Katrina...only about 4% of the total cost of Katrina ), but certainly the people and businesses should be.

How often do you want to spend billions of dollars making the same mistake over and over? The cumulative total cost of Katrina and now Gustav is around $50B in the last three years...how much will it cost if we relocate everything? Who knows....but in the long run, it has to be less than spending $15B per year on average rebuilding.
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Tue 2 Sep, 2008 02:18 pm
@cicerone imposter,
The funny thing in this convention is this.

Republican nominee John McCain and national party strategists are attempting to win the support of Congressman Ron Paul, fearing that without the votes of his supporters it may be difficult to win the election outright against Barack Obama

After officials at the Republican National Committee told Paul that he would not be permitted to address the national convention, because of his refusal to alter his opposition to the Iraq war, the Congressman organized his own "Campaign For Liberty" convention.

The RNC also promised to limit Ron Paul's access to the convention floor, and monitor his movements at the hall.
http://infowars.net/articles/September2008/020908McCain_Paul.htm
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 2 Sep, 2008 02:22 pm
@Ramafuchs,
McCain is already toast; the former republican state's polls show that Bush's rating is 30 percent or lower. If logic follows, and often times in politics it doesn't, Obama should win those states handily.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 2 Sep, 2008 02:23 pm
@Ramafuchs,
Yeah.

I'm hoping Paul's convention will be covered with a fraction of the avidity with which PUMAs were covered at the DNC...
Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Tue 2 Sep, 2008 06:58 pm
@sozobe,
Just now CNN had shown one picture with a comment that there were 10000 people in his convention.
Media has got no scruple to uphold democracy.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 2 Sep, 2008 08:33 pm
Fred Thompson is giving one heck of a terrible speech. But he's loading it up full of meat for the audience, who loves it and cheers every lie about Obama he puts out.

Cycloptichorn
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 2 Sep, 2008 09:06 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Awesome speech!

Out of the park!!

Obama is toast!!!
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Tue 2 Sep, 2008 10:36 pm
@H2O MAN,
The Thompson line that I hope people were paying really close attention to was the issue of the Obama tax cuts which, frankly, is the only personally appealing component of the long laundry list of godlike miracles Obama promises to perform.

As Thompson pointed out, Obama is promising tax cuts to just about everybody. . . .UNLESS you are a business owner or depend on business for your paycheck. He used the metaphor of promising to take water out of only one side of the bucket and leave the other side untouched.
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 2 Sep, 2008 10:43 pm
@Foxfyre,
Deja review.
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old europe
 
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Reply Tue 2 Sep, 2008 10:45 pm
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:
As Thompson pointed out, Obama is promising tax cuts to just about everybody. . . .


That's funny. Isn't Obama promising to cut taxes for low and middle class, and raise taxes for the rich - whereas McCain promises to cut taxes for everyone?

(You're really trying to make a point here, aren't you?)
Diest TKO
 
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Reply Wed 3 Sep, 2008 06:32 am
@old europe,
Fred Thomson also attacked the "democratic controlled congress" and the audience went wild. funny considering that the republican congress members poll the lowest.

The irony is lost on these people.
K
O
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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Wed 3 Sep, 2008 06:40 am
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:

The Thompson line that I hope people were paying really close attention to was the issue of the Obama tax cuts which, frankly, is the only personally appealing component of the long laundry list of godlike miracles Obama promises to perform.

As Thompson pointed out, Obama is promising tax cuts to just about everybody. . . .UNLESS you are a business owner or depend on business for your paycheck. He used the metaphor of promising to take water out of only one side of the bucket and leave the other side untouched.

Funny.

The republican idea seems to be to give out buckets to the rich, cups for everyone else. We shouldn't take as much water from the buckets, because certainly they plan to share it. Rolling Eyes

T
K
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Wed 3 Sep, 2008 08:03 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
I don't even know how I'm voting...

I can give you a hint if you'd like.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Wed 3 Sep, 2008 08:38 am
A few observations on last night's speeches:

The inherent contradictions in the GOP positions are beginning to pile up rapidly. Just a few instances:

-- GWB stayed at the White House to supervise the response to Hurricane Gustav. A noble (if unnecessary) gesture, to be sure, but that just points up how totally uninvolved he was in the face of Hurricane Katrina, when he found time to go to Arizona to give a birthday cake to none other than John McCain.

-- Fred Thompson went into gruesome detail about McCain's torture at the hands of the North Vietnamese, but that has the danger of reminding people that McCain has flip-flopped on the issue of torture himself.

-- Thompson gave a traditional Republican stump speech which blasted government spending and waste, but that must make one wonder where Thompson has been for the last seven and a half years, when the Republicans held the White House and, for six of those years, both houses of congress. If Washington is indeed the problem, it sounds rather hollow now to proclaim that the GOP is the solution.

-- Joe Lieberman, listing McCain's bona fides as a maverick, noted his stance on immigration reform, but that's something that you won't hear McCain mention in his acceptance speech (except, perhaps, in passing), because McCain has repudiated his previous position on immigration and the GOP base still distrusts him on that issue.

Ultimately, the cognitive dissonances became so massive that Lieberman ended up praising Bill Clinton (the Republican delegates reacted to that in much the same way that one would react to a family member standing up at Thanksgiving dinner to announce that he had been abducted by aliens from the Crab Nebula). I have never seen such a profound disconnect between rhetoric and reality, and the GOP's unenviable task is to distract the voters and keep them from recognizing that disconnect. Indeed, the party's slogan this year should be: "hey, look over there!" So far, the convention is demonstrating what a tightwire act McCain must perform as he simultaneously embraces and rejects many of the same policies while claiming that there are no contradictions.
sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 3 Sep, 2008 08:48 am
@joefromchicago,
Check out my new sigline... couldn't fit in the attribution though.
joefromchicago
 
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Reply Wed 3 Sep, 2008 08:51 am
@sozobe,
I'm touched and honored.
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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Wed 3 Sep, 2008 09:08 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

Liberaltards are running scared and reaching at straws.

You democrats are having a tough time accepting your failure with Obama.
Better luck in 2012


By failure do you mean

1) His outstanding ability to speak.
2) His policy congruence with the Iraqi Prime Minister.
3) His motivating millions of people to register to vote.
4) His uncanny ability to fund is campaign with grassroots contributions.
ETC

Kevin, the only real straw that anyone needs to grab at is the piece holding the right's scarecrow together. The whole thing just falls apart.

T
K
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post script - "Liberaltards" is a great way to raise the bar. Grow up.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 3 Sep, 2008 09:12 am
@Diest TKO,
Laughing

Breath deep the gathering gloom loser.
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