blatham
 
  2  
Sun 26 Oct, 2008 06:58 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
Neither Twain nor Swift were so personal in their scorn and mockery.


No, they weren't. Which is a function of very different times and media and styles of discourse. Perhaps you might consider Will Rogers as an exemplar of Twainian satire but even his time and context bears little relationship to the present. Contemporarily, you might bring up Keillor or Trillin. But if you think their present writings are without 'scorn' directed at poltical figures then that's just evidence you aren't reading them. In any case, Twain's writing on either the Phillipines or on fundamentalist christianity would be deeply unwelcome ("anti-American" or "agenda to demean and destroy the faith and the faithful") in the world of the sort of "conservatism" you or okie or foxfyre or other fans of modern rightwing media inhabit.

As Joe/Snood point out, you really don't have a leg to stand on here regarding modern scorn and mockery given Limbaugh (Michael Fox "and he's shaking all about" etc etc), Coulter (Gore is a fag, Kerry is a fag, Edwards is a fag etc etc) or Hannity or Beck or Ingraham or the entire line up of rightwing character assassins.

You aren't going to get it, finn. Neither is okie or foxfyre. But it doesn't matter if you don't.
hawkeye10
 
  1  
Sun 26 Oct, 2008 10:19 am
Quote:
ALBUQUERQUE, New Mexico (CNN) -- With 10 days until Election Day, long-brewing tensions between GOP vice presidential candidate Gov. Sarah Palin and key aides to Sen. John McCain have become so intense, they are spilling out in public, sources say.


Several McCain advisers have suggested to CNN that they have become increasingly frustrated with what one aide described as Palin "going rogue".

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/25/palin.tension/index.html?section=cnn_latest

Sweet Justice....McCain pays for his misdeeds.
sozobe
 
  1  
Sun 26 Oct, 2008 10:23 am
@hawkeye10,
I have a post about this stuff at Observationalism:

http://observationalism.com/2008/10/25/chafin-update/
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nicole415
 
  0  
Sun 26 Oct, 2008 11:09 pm
@hawkeye10,
http://mudflats.wordpress.com/

Mudflat's take on Sarah going rogue. (Mudflats is a very popular Anchorage progressive blog)

Will the Real Rogue Please Stand Up?
26 10 2008

I’m sorry…(sticking finger in ear and wiggling)…I’m afraid I didn’t hear you properly McCain aide. You were saying something about someone in Alaska being “rogue”. You MUST mean Sarah Palin’s ex-brother-in-law, Trooper Mike Wooten, or former Commissioner of Public Safety, Walt Monegan.

Don’t you remember when our governor and her mouthpieces told the whole country they were “rogue”? Yeah, I know…pretty serious stuff that “rogue” talk. Pretty scary. Ask any cop on the force. Being called a “rogue” is fightin’ words. Yup… I even looked it up in the dictionary when Governor Palin used that word. Where’s that definition….ah! Here it is:

1. Vicious and solitary. Used of an animal, especially an elephant.
2. Large, destructive, and anomalous or unpredictable: a rogue wave; a rogue tornado.
3. Operating outside normal or desirable controls: “How could a single rogue trader bring down an otherwise profitable and well-regarded institution?” (Saul Hansell).

So who was this person who went “rogue” according to a McCain aide? In a delicious twist of irony, it’s the Governor herself. And while the wonderful poetic metaphor of the Republican VP nominee being compared to a vicious elephant is not lost on anyone, I think it’s definition #2 and #3 we’re looking at here.
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ehBeth
 
  1  
Mon 27 Oct, 2008 11:06 am
@Joe Nation,
No Ordinary Woman

Quote:
With her five children, successful political career, $1.2 million net worth and beauty pageant looks, Sarah Palin is really not an average woman, much less the worthy schlemiel envisioned by Abzug. She’s actually, as Colin Powell carefully said, quite “distinguished” " for her looks, her grace and charm, her ability to connect with an audience, her ambition and her drive. Those are admirable, even enviable qualities. But the American public, defecting from the McCain ticket in a slow bleed, is clearly not convinced that they amount to vice-presidential qualifications.

Seems like “real America” wants something more than a wife, mother or girlfriend in a female political leader.

Maybe we’ve come a long way after all.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 27 Oct, 2008 11:50 am
@ehBeth,
Maybe. Hopefully.
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okie
 
  -1  
Tue 28 Oct, 2008 08:38 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

As Joe/Snood point out, you really don't have a leg to stand on here regarding modern scorn and mockery given Limbaugh (Michael Fox "and he's shaking all about" etc etc), Coulter (Gore is a fag, Kerry is a fag, Edwards is a fag etc etc) or Hannity or Beck or Ingraham or the entire line up of rightwing character assassins.

You aren't going to get it, finn. Neither is okie or foxfyre. But it doesn't matter if you don't.

So Democrats are not character assassins? What has been going on for 8 years against Bush, blatham? Against an honorable man, that has been virtually destroyed by the press. Some extreme libs suggested Bush should die, or perhaps it would be better if Cheney would die of a heart attack, they wished it upon him. And we have a press that spends more time investigating Palin in Alaska, her daughter's pregnancy, or even Joe the plumber, than they have Obama's past, a past that has some very serious questions, a past that might not even muster a security clearance, yet you suggest a talk show host is a character assassin if he or she criticizes Obama by bringing up some of this questionable past, such as associations with Marxists, domestic terrorists, ACORN, or even some of his own words as recorded, boy that is really a smear, just play some of Obama's own quotes or videos.

Blatham, you are seriously out of touch with reality.
Diest TKO
 
  1  
Tue 28 Oct, 2008 11:08 pm
@okie,
Bush assassinated his own career. The left could never do as much damage to Bush as his policies did to himself. Besides, there is a huge difference in attacking someone's character and attacking somebody's decisions/actions. The only character assault Bush had to endure is the idea that he talks like an idiot. Care to argue that?

What you call character assault on Bush, may just be common sense Okie. You need to deal with it.

T
K
O
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blueflame1
 
  2  
Fri 31 Oct, 2008 08:08 am
Still no Medical Records from Palin; What's the Hold Up?
Share October 29, 2008 1:20 PM

ABC News Kate Snow reports: Governor Palin's campaign still has not released any information regarding her medical records despite frequent requests from the news media and the campaign's own assertion that they would release this information soon.

On Sunday morning, Palin spokeswoman Tracey Schmitt told ABC News that the campaign had planned to release information on her medical history early this week.

Today is Wednesday.

ABC News has asked every day this week about the status of the release of information and received no updates from the campaign. It is unclear what is holding things up.

"We are working on this and it will happen sooner than later," Schmitt said on Sunday.

Aides suggested privately that there was nothing to hide in the records, but that it was simply taking a while to call doctors and round up the appropriate information to release.

But an entire week?

It was last Wednesday that Governor Palin said she would be "fine" with releasing her records.

She is the only one of the presidential or vice presidential candidates who has not released any health information about herself.

Palin did suggest that releasing her records could be fodder for political attacks of some kind.

"So be it, if that will allow some curiosity seekers, perhaps, to have one more thing that they can either check the box off that they can find something to criticize, perhaps, or find something to rest them assured over. Fine. I'm healthy, I'm happy, had five kids. That is going to be in the medical records. Never been seriously ill or hurt. You will see that in the medical records if they're released," Palin told NBC's Brian Williams.
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H2O MAN
 
  -2  
Fri 31 Oct, 2008 08:25 am


Sarah Palin is a wonderful woman and a positive inspiration to generations of young women and little girls around the world.

It is criminal what the liberal media has done to her and her family - I hope their criminal acts do not deter other women from being successful and productive.
squinney
 
  3  
Fri 31 Oct, 2008 08:34 am
@H2O MAN,
Ha! You are obviously clueless of women and what inspires them. Furthermore, you insult our intellegence by thinking she would in anyway be viewed as an inhibitor of our success. You give her way too much undeserved credit and power.
H2O MAN
 
  -2  
Fri 31 Oct, 2008 08:50 am
@squinney,


Not at all.

I know what inspires intelligent women and Sarah Palin does inspire them.
squinney
 
  1  
Fri 31 Oct, 2008 08:55 am
@H2O MAN,
Inspires them to what? Slit their wrists?
eoe
 
  2  
Fri 31 Oct, 2008 08:59 am
@squinney,
Hush up gurl. Let the big ol' man tell you what's what.
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blatham
 
  3  
Fri 31 Oct, 2008 09:19 am
@squinney,
Actually, Sarah is proving a boon to the social conservative agenda. Gay women are now beginning to find men far more attractive.
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OCCOM BILL
 
  1  
Fri 31 Oct, 2008 09:53 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:
It is criminal what the liberal media has done to her and her family -
Rolling Eyes Yeah, that was a dirty trick for the media to record her when she spoke, and then they even had the audacity to play the tapes! What an outrage!
McGentrix
 
  0  
Fri 31 Oct, 2008 09:55 am
@OCCOM BILL,
OCCOM BILL wrote:

H2O MAN wrote:
It is criminal what the liberal media has done to her and her family -
Rolling Eyes Yeah, that was a dirty trick for the media to record her when she spoke, and then they even had the audacity to play the tapes! What an outrage!


Yeah, that's what he was speaking of... Rolling Eyes
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H2O MAN
 
  -2  
Fri 31 Oct, 2008 09:57 am


It amazes me how many closet hate mongers reside here on A2K - you should all be ashamed of yourselves.

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blueflame1
 
  2  
Fri 31 Oct, 2008 10:02 am
@H2O MAN,
Palin has a lock on Promise Keeper woman amd Armageddonist women and ofcourse racist women but not much else. "Women Voters Prefer Hillary Clinton to Sarah Palin in 2012 By a 2-to-1 Margin" http://www.duedee.com/news/291764/Women-Voters-Prefer-Hillary-Clinton-to-Sarah-Palin-in-2012-By-a-2-to-1-Margin/
H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Fri 31 Oct, 2008 10:17 am
@blueflame1,


You really shouldn't drink cheap booze - it has seriously diminished your ability to think.
 

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