Diest TKO
 
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Wed 24 Sep, 2008 10:42 am
@Berger,
in the reply box, click on the font color box and a palette will appear. Then just highlight the text then pick a color.

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Cycloptichorn
 
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Wed 24 Sep, 2008 10:42 am
@Berger,
Berger wrote:

I would love to use different text or color. How do I do that?


When replying, you'll see a list of controls at the top. Clicking on them will give you boxes like so:

[ i] [ /i]
[ b][ /b]
[ quote] [ /quote]
[ color=] [ /color]

Anything you put in the middle will be formatted the way you like. It's really easy once you play around with it a little.

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And
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quotes too!


Cheers
Cycloptichorn

McGentrix
 
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Wed 24 Sep, 2008 10:54 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

His superior intelligence and judgment.

Cycloptichorn


Laughing

That's funny. His superior judgement... Ha!
I suppose he used his superior judgement when he attended a church for 20 years, yet paid no attention to anything his pastor actually said then left when it became a political liability...
I suppose he used his superior judgement when he became friends with Ayers, a domestic terrorist...
I suppose he used his superior judgement when he let his children be dragged into the campaign for an interview to further his campaign...
I suppose he used his superior judgement when he involved himself with Rezko and received a sweetheart real estate deal...
I suppose he used his superior judgement when he chose to support Louis Farrakhan...
I suppose he used his superior judgement when he stated that people who live in small towns in Pennsylvania and the Midwest are "bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

The list of his terrible, horrible judgement calls is extensive and you believe him to be of superior intelligence and judgement?

Thanks for the laugh.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Wed 24 Sep, 2008 11:04 am
@McGentrix,
The 'bitter' comment was a gaffe. Everything else you wrote is just an attempt to tar him through his associations. This never works, McG. I said so back in the spring, when the Ayers and Wright bullshit first came up; and his numbers didn't drop a bit. They still haven't. The American public disagrees with you that those things show bad judgment.

Cycl0ptichorn

ps, is this the best you have? What weak sauce! It's no wonder your candidate is losing.
okie
 
  1  
Wed 24 Sep, 2008 11:09 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

okie, What does "piece of work" mean?

Thats a saying I have heard, an expression, meaning somebody or something is a work in progress, that alot of improvements and continued work will be necessary to result into something or somebody useful. For example, it could be applied to a teenager that hasn't found himself or herself yet, and is aimless and unproductive. I like the expression, ci, and I thought Biden sort of fits, because he is sort of wandering aimlessly as to what he might propose next. For example, during the debates, he said Obama was not ready to be president, but now he claims he is, and I don't buy it, I think he doesn't believe he is now, but he is only saying so because of political expediency.
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You really haven't kept up with the current administration have you? Any dissension from the Bush doctrine by any on his staff got booted out. Remember General Shinseki and General Powell? Bush surrounded himself with "yes" people, and the result is all the chaos and crisis Bush created, because Bush was not open to diverse opinions and ideas.

Bush may listen, but that doesn't mean he won't ultimately go against their advice, after all others in the administration gave other advice. I don't think that argument flies well. No president can obey everyone in an administration, and show me an administration where nobody resigned. There aren't any.

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Obama on the other hand will have a veep who will bring other ideas to the table for consideration. In management, that's very important. In a fascist country, your head gets chopped off. Obama will refer to experts and get more ideas to consider before he makes his decisions. That's smart.

But then, you don't understand the concept of "smart" in management.

I guarantee you that Obama cannot follow the advice of everyone in his administration, and I guarantee you that many will resign at various points, assuming he is elected, which I am not assuming, no way, in fact I seriously hope it never happens for your sake and mine. Obama is not ready to be president and he does not hold the right convictions to be president, and even if he did, he is seriously immature and ill equipped to be president. He does not have the credentials, period. He should go back to organizing his community, where poverty still reigns, and his public housing supported by government dollars is falling in around the ears of the residents, to the benefit of his friends and buddies like Rezko. That job is just as unfinished and perhaps in worse shape than when he began.
Berger
 
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Wed 24 Sep, 2008 11:14 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Now I have it. Had to click the small hypertext "Show BBCode Editor". Thanks.
McGentrix
 
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Wed 24 Sep, 2008 11:18 am
@Cycloptichorn,
That you believe the things I listed do not show bad judgement on Obama's part does not surprise me in the least considering the level of poor judgement you have shown yourself.

You have become a blind partisan hack oblivious to anything but the kool-aid you get from Obama's teat. It's been obvious to the rest of us for some time now.
okie
 
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Wed 24 Sep, 2008 11:20 am
@Berger,
Berger, thanks for the great posts and opinions here. At least that is my take so far, based upon reading a few of your posts. Reason is always in short supply, so another one that has it is great to see.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Wed 24 Sep, 2008 11:20 am
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:

That you believe the things I listed do not show bad judgement on Obama's part does not surprise me in the least considering the level of poor judgement you have shown yourself.

You have become a blind partisan hack oblivious to anything but the kool-aid you get from Obama's teat. It's been obvious to the rest of us for some time now.


It's not me, McG; it's the American public which has made that determination. Polling data supports this. YOU are the one who is out of step with the mainstream on these issues.

I said it before, and I'll say it again: statements and events linked to candidates by third-parties are NEVER as damaging as the opposition would want them to be.

Cycloptichorn
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Berger
 
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Wed 24 Sep, 2008 11:26 am
@Diest TKO,
Diest TKO wrote:

1. Vast foreign policy experience

Lake Michigan touches Canada and Chicago. Razz
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2. Extensive military training and service.

Extensive political education.
So studying politcs equates to military education and experience? [3. His anit-war stance.
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Robert Gates even says we are using our military in the wrong way. The Millitary is not the front line. It is the support for diplomatic foreign efforts, not the other way around. Might does not make right.
Anti-War does not preserve freedom and protect our national interests.

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4. His vote against funding the troops in Iraq.

I guess he could have just done what McCain and the rest of the RNC did: Take the credit away from the Sunni Awakening and rob the Iraqi's of the dignity of a major step towards independence.

We aren't entitled to victory, the Iraqi people are. Watching all the republicans masturbate in front of the microphone was disgusting.
So he voted against the funding to insure Iraqi victory?
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5. Associations over the past 20 years with the Chicago political machine, Bill Ayres, Rev. Wright...?

I'll take that over the association with George W Bush any day of the week.
To each his own.

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cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 24 Sep, 2008 11:39 am
@okie,
okie wrote:

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Thats a saying I have heard, an expression, meaning somebody or something is a work in progress, that alot of improvements and continued work will be necessary to result into something or somebody useful. For example, it could be applied to a teenager that hasn't found himself or herself yet, and is aimless and unproductive. I like the expression, ci, and I thought Biden sort of fits, because he is sort of wandering aimlessly as to what he might propose next. For example, during the debates, he said Obama was not ready to be president, but now he claims he is, and I don't buy it, I think he doesn't believe he is now, but he is only saying so because of political expediency.

okie, Are "you" a work in process? I'm 73 years old, and I'm still learning new stuff. For you to apply that term to others, are you more knowledgeable about all issues? I think not.

Bush may listen, but that doesn't mean he won't ultimately go against their advice, after all others in the administration gave other advice. I don't think that argument flies well. No president can obey everyone in an administration, and show me an administration where nobody resigned. There aren't any.

okie, You're missing the whole point; Bush is not known to listen to expert advise when it doesn't agree with his idea on issues. Do you understand how Bush got us into the Iraq war and why? I don't think you do from your rationalization about Bush.


But then, you don't understand the concept of "smart" in management.

okie, I "worked" in management for most of my professional career. 90% of my jobs were in management positions. If I didn't have the "smarts," my bosses would have booted me out long before I put in my 30-plus years.


I guarantee you that Obama cannot follow the advice of everyone in his administration, and I guarantee you that many will resign at various points, assuming he is elected, which I am not assuming, no way, in fact I seriously hope it never happens for your sake and mine. Obama is not ready to be president and he does not hold the right convictions to be president, and even if he did, he is seriously immature and ill equipped to be president. He does not have the credentials, period. He should go back to organizing his community, where poverty still reigns, and his public housing supported by government dollars is falling in around the ears of the residents, to the benefit of his friends and buddies like Rezko. That job is just as unfinished and perhaps in worse shape than when he began.


okie, "Everyone?" What happened to your brain? Nobody follows the advise of "everyone," whether private citizen or anybody in government. When did you get out of diapers?



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Diest TKO
 
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Wed 24 Sep, 2008 11:42 am
@Berger,
I'm suprized I let this slip through...

What exactly is the relevance of Bill Ayers or Rev Wright to foreign affairs? At most, you can make a weak domestic argument, but otherwise it seems to be desperate attempt to employ an old and now impotent meme.

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Berger
 
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Wed 24 Sep, 2008 11:48 am
@Diest TKO,
Diest TKO wrote:

I'm suprized I let this slip through...

What exactly is the relevance of Bill Ayers or Rev Wright to foreign affairs? At most, you can make a weak domestic argument, but otherwise it seems to be desperate attempt to employ an old and now impotent meme.

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It is relevant to everything Obama is. It goes to his judgment and his ideology. You may agree with the ideology of them, I do not.
cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 24 Sep, 2008 11:53 am
@Berger,
Berger, It's obvious your standard for McCain doesn't reconcile with your "judgement and ideology" rhetoric.

Can you explain to us the "fixed" issues for McCain on all the important issues since last July? Please list them for us, and show how he's been "consistent" in his rhetoric. Please. You can change my mind about McCain if you can present this in a logical and factual way.
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Diest TKO
 
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Wed 24 Sep, 2008 11:55 am
@Berger,
Berger wrote:

Diest TKO wrote:

I'm suprized I let this slip through...

What exactly is the relevance of Bill Ayers or Rev Wright to foreign affairs? At most, you can make a weak domestic argument, but otherwise it seems to be desperate attempt to employ an old and now impotent meme.

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It is relevant to everything Obama is. It goes to his judgment and his ideology. You may agree with the ideology of them, I do not.

Because you say so, I suppose. Rolling Eyes

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cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 24 Sep, 2008 12:05 pm
@Diest TKO,
They just refuse to do a critical analysis of both candidates, and never will.
Berger
 
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Wed 24 Sep, 2008 12:25 pm
@Diest TKO,
Diest TKO wrote:

Because you say so, I suppose. Rolling Eyes

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Berger
 
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Wed 24 Sep, 2008 12:26 pm
@Diest TKO,
Diest TKO wrote:

Berger wrote:


It is relevant to everything Obama is. It goes to his judgment and his ideology. You may agree with the ideology of them, I do not.

Because you say so, I suppose. Rolling Eyes

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Nope, because who one chooses to associate with matters in politics.
Berger
 
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Wed 24 Sep, 2008 12:26 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

They just refuse to do a critical analysis of both candidates, and never will.

But you do?
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Diest TKO
 
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Wed 24 Sep, 2008 12:28 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I think it will be a close race, but I think that the republican's have overestimated their own abilities.

I'm left wondering what possible effect another negative attack ad from McCain could actually do? I mean, at this point it would just blend in with every other ad he's launched. The last two presidential races have taught the republican's overconfidence in smear politics.

I have zero doubt that the GOP still has cards up their sleeve, but I think they are counting on gimmicks being enough to make a poor pick republican into the president. I don't blame them for trying to exploit American cynicism, it's worked for them before, but the reactions I've seen to McCain's campaign make me wonder if we've began to question this kind of thing more closely.

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Obama is an intelligent and focused man who will make a fine president.
 

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