cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 18 Sep, 2008 01:15 pm
@wandeljw,
The delay is based on the different perceptions of people who lean with the conservatives or liberals. They are so far apart, that confusion is the order of the day. ROFL
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Cycloptichorn
 
  2  
Thu 18 Sep, 2008 03:32 pm
Aw, jeez.

Quote:
CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa (CNN) - Sarah Palin likes to tell voters around the country about how she "put the government checkbook online" in Alaska. On Thursday, Palin suggested she would take that same proposal to Washington.

"We're going to do a few new things also," she said at a rally in Cedar Rapids. "For instance, as Alaska's governor, I put the government's checkbook online so that people can see where their money's going..."

There's just one problem with proposing to put the federal checkbook online - somebody's already done it. His name is Barack Obama.


In 2006 and 2007, Obama teamed up with Republican Sen. Tom Coburn to pass the Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act, also known as "Google for Government." The act created a free, searchable web site - USASpending.gov - that discloses to the public all federal grants, contracts, loans and insurance payments...

Palin might also have noted that her running mate, John McCain, was an original co-sponsor of the 2006 transparency bill that became law.


http://wonkette.com/402869/402869

It's like an Onion headline, or something. Wow.

Cycloptichorn
Diest TKO
 
  1  
Fri 19 Sep, 2008 03:52 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

Aw, jeez.

Quote:
CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa (CNN) - Sarah Palin likes to tell voters around the country about how she "put the government checkbook online" in Alaska. On Thursday, Palin suggested she would take that same proposal to Washington.

"We're going to do a few new things also," she said at a rally in Cedar Rapids. "For instance, as Alaska's governor, I put the government's checkbook online so that people can see where their money's going..."

There's just one problem with proposing to put the federal checkbook online - somebody's already done it. His name is Barack Obama.


In 2006 and 2007, Obama teamed up with Republican Sen. Tom Coburn to pass the Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act, also known as "Google for Government." The act created a free, searchable web site - USASpending.gov - that discloses to the public all federal grants, contracts, loans and insurance payments...

Palin might also have noted that her running mate, John McCain, was an original co-sponsor of the 2006 transparency bill that became law.


http://wonkette.com/402869/402869

It's like an Onion headline, or something. Wow.

Cycloptichorn

Damn Cyclo... damn...Nice find Left Eye!

I can't get over how wrong Palin is for the position of VP or worse... ( I shudder to think).

T
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slkshock7
 
  1  
Fri 19 Sep, 2008 06:51 am
Looks like a lot of women are having fits of the vapors over Palin...

source

Quote:
"All of my women friends, a week ago Monday, were on the verge of throwing themselves out windows," an author and political activist, Nancy Kricorian of Manhattan, said yesterday. "People were flipping out. ... Every woman I know was in high hysteria over this. Everyone was just beside themselves with terror that this woman could be our president " our potential next president."


Quote:
A posting on a New York-based Web site for women, Jezebel.com, spoke of unbridled anger. "What I feel for her privately could be described as violent, nay, murderous, rage," an associate editor at Jezebel, Jessica Grose, wrote just after the Republican convention wrapped up. "When Palin spoke on Wednesday night, my head almost exploded from the incandescent anger boiling in my skull."




Berger
 
  0  
Fri 19 Sep, 2008 07:16 am
@slkshock7,
slkshock7 wrote:

Looks like a lot of women are having fits of the vapors over Palin...


The Obama supporters of all types have every reason to fear this accomplished and beautiful woman. She has definitely thrown the Obama campaign off message in getting into Obama's head.
DrewDad
 
  1  
Fri 19 Sep, 2008 07:29 am
@Berger,
I haven't seen Obama or his campaign off message. Lots of other folks have been distracted, however.
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squinney
 
  3  
Fri 19 Sep, 2008 07:44 am
Quote:
The new Quinnipiac poll, echoing the Gallup and CBS surveys, puts Obama up by four points overall.

In each survey, the movement to the Democrats is most dramatic among white women -- the group that Sarah Palin was supposed to be drawing into the Republican camp.

What's up with Palin? The governor's overall favorable rating has fallen to just 40 percent in the CBS/New York Times survey -- down four points from last week. Palin's unfavorable rating is up 8 points to 30 percent. But the shift is even more dramatic among women, with whom Palin's star has fallen 11 points in one week.



http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters/362158/white_women_shift_giving_obama_the_lead

If there is any anger, and I'm not agreeing that there is, it would be over the selection of Palin as representative of women. It looks like she could easily screw up any chance of a capable woman having an opportunity to lead the country any time in the near future.
slkshock7
 
  1  
Fri 19 Sep, 2008 08:27 am
@squinney,
squinney wrote:
If there is any anger, and I'm not agreeing that there is, it would be over the selection of Palin as representative of women. It looks like she could easily screw up any chance of a capable woman having an opportunity to lead the country any time in the near future.


And who would you say is more "representative of women"?

I think this is another one of those cases where people equate "representation of their demographic" with "representation of the whole".
firefly
 
  1  
Fri 19 Sep, 2008 09:12 am
@slkshock7,
Palin may represent an average American wife and mother, but the average wife and mother is not qualified to lead the government. Even Conservative columnist, George Will, referred to her experience as being "negliable". Designating such an unqualied woman for one of the highest positions in the land looks like affirmative action as it's very worst.

Palin does not represent women with experience in government, and proven records of accomplishment--women, Republican women, like Senators Kay Bailey Hutchison and Olympia Snowe.
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sozobe
 
  2  
Fri 19 Sep, 2008 09:21 am
@squinney,
I've said this before I think (I'm now having a lot of IRL and email politics conversations and I forget where I said what!) but I really think that a big part of Palin's early popularity was actually a pushback against the (perceived) unfair coverage. That people thought she was pretty and energetic and hey, she was a governor, she's not TOTALLY unqualified... And they were ready to like her.

When the torrent of coverage came (an unavoidable torrent given how unknown she'd been), there was a reaction to the coverage, as separate from what people thought about Palin per se.

Then the torrent slowed and certain aspects (such as the repeated lying) of Palin have taken shape and solidified. Palin, under closer inspection, doesn't fare very well. And some of the people who were predisposed to like her are unimpressed with what they're seeing.

It was an ill-advised pick on McCain's part.
blueflame1
 
  2  
Fri 19 Sep, 2008 09:22 am
Palin represents extreme opinions that are far from what the "average" American woman represents. Hillary represents stances far closer to what the majority represent. imo.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Fri 19 Sep, 2008 09:52 am
@blueflame1,
It's quite obvious why Hillary was more knowledgeable with "real" experience compared to Palin. Hillary can speak from her background in both local and national exposure, while Palin speaks from her handlers and trying to wing it - with no knowledge of what she's talking about. Simple, if one bothers to see and listen to both of them.
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blueflame1
 
  1  
Fri 19 Sep, 2008 10:00 am
White women, no way
Once pro-Obama, but now swoon for McPalin? Who the hell are you? http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2008/09/19/notes091908.DTL
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wandeljw
 
  2  
Fri 19 Sep, 2008 10:22 am
@sozobe,
sozobe wrote:
Then the torrent slowed and certain aspects (such as the repeated lying) of Palin have taken shape and solidified. Palin, under closer inspection, doesn't fare very well. And some of the people who were predisposed to like her are unimpressed with what they're seeing.


Last week John Mclaughlin predicted that by the end of THIS week, Palin will be seen as having more minuses than pluses.
Cycloptichorn
 
  2  
Fri 19 Sep, 2008 10:26 am
@wandeljw,
wandeljw wrote:

sozobe wrote:
Then the torrent slowed and certain aspects (such as the repeated lying) of Palin have taken shape and solidified. Palin, under closer inspection, doesn't fare very well. And some of the people who were predisposed to like her are unimpressed with what they're seeing.


Last week John Mclaughlin predicted that by the end of THIS week, Palin will be seen as having more minuses than pluses.


According to some of the tracking polls, that's exactly what has occurred.

Cycloptichorn
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Fri 19 Sep, 2008 10:38 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Palin's glitter made of false jewels was bound to fall off quickly. It was only a matter of time.
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sozobe
 
  4  
Fri 19 Sep, 2008 10:41 am
New meme I'm seeing -- "I don't speak Palin."

As in, "Can someone help me understand what she's saying? I don't speak Palin."

AKA "Huh?"

One recent example:

Andrew Sullivan wrote:
Huh?

Palin strikes again:

Quote:
"Oil and coal? Of course, it’s a fungible commodity and they don’t flag, you know, the molecules, where it’s going and where it’s not. But in the sense of the Congress today, they know that there are very, very hungry domestic markets that need that oil first,” Palin said. “So, I believe that what Congress is going to do, also, is not to allow the export bans to such a degree that it’s Americans that get stuck to holding the bag without the energy source that is produced here, pumped here. It’s got to flow into our domestic markets first," - Sarah Palin, Energy Expert and University of Idaho graduate in sports journalism.


Hilzoy, mercifully, unpacks it. Hard not to wince at the grammar and the logic. Remember this is allegedly her sole area of expertise and she's barely above high school level.


Hilzoy's unpacking:

http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2008/09/energy-expertis.html
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Fri 19 Sep, 2008 10:47 am
@sozobe,
With all the experience Palin had on energy, why can't she speak in normal English about the topic? ROFL
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sozobe
 
  1  
Fri 19 Sep, 2008 10:49 am
@sozobe,
Here, I found the first reference I was thinking of. When I was looking it up I found others, and variations ("Can someone teach me Palin-guage?")

Kevin Drum wrote:
YOGI BERRA FOR VICE PRESIDENT?....A plea from Dan Drezner: "Do any of my readers speak Palin?" Head over and see if you can help him out. I'm afraid this one is beyond my feeble skills.


The link:

http://danieldrezner.com/blog/?p=3937
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wandeljw
 
  1  
Fri 19 Sep, 2008 11:28 am
From the statutes for the State of Alaska, Title 24:
Quote:
AS 24.25.030. Disobeying Subpoena or Refusing to Testify
If a witness neglects or refuses to obey a subpoena, or neglects or refuses to testify or to produce upon reasonable notice any material and proper books, papers, or documents in the possession or under the control of the witness, the senate or house of representatives may by resolution entered on its journal commit the witness for contempt. If contempt is committed before a committee, the committee shall report the contempt to the senate or house of representatives, as the case may be, for such action as may be considered necessary.

AS 24.25.040. Arrest For Disobedience to Subpoena
A witness who neglects or refuses to attend in obedience to subpoena may be arrested by the sergeant-at-arms and brought before the senate or house of representatives, as the case may be. The only warrant or authority necessary authorizing arrest is a copy of a resolution of the senate or house of representatives signed by the president of the senate or speaker of the house of representatives, as the case may be, and countersigned by the secretary of the senate or the clerk of the house of representatives, as the case may be.


AS 24.25.080. Punishment For Disobedience to Subpoena or Refusal to Testify
A person subpoenaed as provided in this chapter who fails, neglects, or refuses to attend at the time and place where the person's presence is required, or fails, neglects, or refuses to produce the books, papers, or instruments or other evidence designated in the subpoena, or who having attended in response to the subpoena, or having appeared voluntarily, refuses to testify as to any material and proper matter within the power of the senate, house of representatives, or a committee to investigate, upon conviction, is punishable by a fine of not less than $100 nor more than $500, or by imprisonment for not less than 30 days nor more than six months.
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