cicerone imposter
 
  0  
Tue 9 Sep, 2008 04:52 pm
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-steinem4-2008sep04,0,7915118.story
From the Los Angeles Times
Opinion
Palin: wrong woman, wrong message
Sarah Palin shares nothing but a chromosome with Hillary Clinton. She is Phyllis Schlafly, only younger.
By Gloria Steinem

September 4, 2008

Here's the good news: Women have become so politically powerful that even the anti-feminist right wing -- the folks with a headlock on the Republican Party -- are trying to appease the gender gap with a first-ever female vice president. We owe this to women -- and to many men too -- who have picketed, gone on hunger strikes or confronted violence at the polls so women can vote. We owe it to Shirley Chisholm, who first took the "white-male-only" sign off the White House, and to Hillary Rodham Clinton, who hung in there through ridicule and misogyny to win 18 million votes.

But here is even better news: It won't work. This isn't the first time a boss has picked an unqualified woman just because she agrees with him and opposes everything most other women want and need. Feminism has never been about getting a job for one woman. It's about making life more fair for women everywhere. It's not about a piece of the existing pie; there are too many of us for that. It's about baking a new pie.

Selecting Sarah Palin, who was touted all summer by Rush Limbaugh, is no way to attract most women, including die-hard Clinton supporters. Palin shares nothing but a chromosome with Clinton. Her down-home, divisive and deceptive speech did nothing to cosmeticize a Republican convention that has more than twice as many male delegates as female, a presidential candidate who is owned and operated by the right wing and a platform that opposes pretty much everything Clinton's candidacy stood for -- and that Barack Obama's still does. To vote in protest for McCain/Palin would be like saying, "Somebody stole my shoes, so I'll amputate my legs."

This is not to beat up on Palin. I defend her right to be wrong, even on issues that matter most to me. I regret that people say she can't do the job because she has children in need of care, especially if they wouldn't say the same about a father. I get no pleasure from imagining her in the spotlight on national and foreign policy issues about which she has zero background, with one month to learn to compete with Sen. Joe Biden's 37 years' experience.

Palin has been honest about what she doesn't know. When asked last month about the vice presidency, she said, "I still can't answer that question until someone answers for me: What is it exactly that the VP does every day?" When asked about Iraq, she said, "I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq."

She was elected governor largely because the incumbent was unpopular, and she's won over Alaskans mostly by using unprecedented oil wealth to give a $1,200 rebate to every resident. Now she is being praised by McCain's campaign as a tax cutter, despite the fact that Alaska has no state income or sales tax. Perhaps McCain has opposed affirmative action for so long that he doesn't know it's about inviting more people to meet standards, not lowering them. Or perhaps McCain is following the Bush administration habit, as in the Justice Department, of putting a job candidate's views on "God, guns and gays" ahead of competence. The difference is that McCain is filling a job one 72-year-old heartbeat away from the presidency.

So let's be clear: The culprit is John McCain. He may have chosen Palin out of change-envy, or a belief that women can't tell the difference between form and content, but the main motive was to please right-wing ideologues; the same ones who nixed anyone who is now or ever has been a supporter of reproductive freedom. If that were not the case, McCain could have chosen a woman who knows what a vice president does and who has thought about Iraq; someone like Texas Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison or Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine. McCain could have taken a baby step away from right-wing patriarchs who determine his actions, right down to opposing the Violence Against Women Act.

Palin's value to those patriarchs is clear: She opposes just about every issue that women support by a majority or plurality. She believes that creationism should be taught in public schools but disbelieves global warming; she opposes gun control but supports government control of women's wombs; she opposes stem cell research but approves "abstinence-only" programs, which increase unwanted births, sexually transmitted diseases and abortions; she tried to use taxpayers' millions for a state program to shoot wolves from the air but didn't spend enough money to fix a state school system with the lowest high-school graduation rate in the nation; she runs with a candidate who opposes the Fair Pay Act but supports $500 million in subsidies for a natural gas pipeline across Alaska; she supports drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Reserve, though even McCain has opted for the lesser evil of offshore drilling. She is Phyllis Schlafly, only younger.
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cicerone imposter
 
  0  
Tue 9 Sep, 2008 04:55 pm
NOW

Not Every Woman Supports Women's Rights

August 29, 2008

Statement of NOW PAC Chair Kim Gandy on the Selection of Sarah Palin as John McCain's Vice Presidential Pick

Sen. John McCain's choice of Alaska governor Sarah Palin as his running mate is a cynical effort to appeal to disappointed Hillary Clinton voters and get them to vote, ultimately, against their own self-interest.

Gov. Palin may be the second woman vice-presidential candidate on a major party ticket, but she is not the right woman. Sadly, she is a woman who opposes women's rights, just like John McCain.

The fact that Palin is a mother of five who has a 4-month-old baby, a woman who is juggling work and family responsibilities, will speak to many women. But will Palin speak FOR women? Based on her record and her stated positions, the answer is clearly No.

In a gubernatorial debate, Palin stated emphatically that her opposition to abortion was so great, so total, that even if her teenage daughter was impregnated by a rapist, she would "choose life" -- meaning apparently that she would not permit her daughter to have an abortion.

Palin also had to withdraw her appointment of a top public safety commissioner who had been reprimanded for sexual harassment, although Palin had been warned about his background through letters by the sexual harassment complainant.

What McCain does not understand is that women supported Hillary Clinton not just because she was a woman, but because she was a champion on their issues. They will surely not find Sarah Palin to be an advocate for women.

Sen. Joe Biden is the VP candidate who appeals to women, with his authorship and championing of landmark domestic violence legislation, support for pay equity, and advocacy for women around the world.

Finally, as the chair of NOW's Political Action Committee, I am frequently asked whether NOW supports women candidates just because they are women. This gives me an opportunity to once again answer that question with an emphatic 'No.' We recognize the importance of having women's rights supporters at every level but, like Sarah Palin, not every woman supports women's rights.

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Cycloptichorn
 
  2  
Tue 9 Sep, 2008 04:59 pm
Obama gets it right today -

Quote:
"You can put lipstick on a pig," he said as the crowd cheered. "It's still a pig."

"You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still gonna stink."

"We've had enough of the same old thing."


Absolutely, dead on. McCain and Palin are nothing new and nothing special. But they have tried to steal Obama's brand, b/c it was clearly working.

Cycloptichorn
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Tue 9 Sep, 2008 05:09 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cyclo, Too late; the Palin diversion has worked, and will continue to work for the next two months. People aren't interested in our economy, because they still believe McCain/Palin will do something to "change" our economy with more of the same. This year's deficit is projected at $470 billion; McCain will continue on this path for four more years, and we deserve it.
H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Tue 9 Sep, 2008 05:15 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:


McCain and Palin are nothing new and nothing special.
But they have tried to steal Obama's brand, b/c it was clearly working.




Laughing
Obama's brand?
Laughing
Are you serious?
Laughing



If there happens to be a brand known as Obama, it's very existence
is due to the elite liberal media and liberal colleges all over the US.

BTW, Obama stole the Hope and Change brand from American urban outdoors men and women.






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Ramafuchs
 
  1  
Tue 9 Sep, 2008 05:19 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Cyclo, Too late; the Palin diversion has worked, and will continue to work for the next two months. People aren't interested in our economy, because they still believe McCain/Palin will do something to "change" our economy with more of the same. This year's deficit is projected at $470 billion; McCain will continue on this path for four more years, and we deserve it.

If I were a begger in any part of the country with name USA I would have gone to this lady's house and humbly request her to quit this nonsense and uphold decency, decorum and democracy.
But not all the humanbeing who vegitate there wish to change the system- irrespective of their politcal affliation and moral views.
Pity
Ramafuchs
slkshock7
 
  2  
Tue 9 Sep, 2008 05:23 pm


This is hilarious....two obviously liberal radio commentators invited former Alaska Senator and Democratic Presidential Candidate Mike Gravel on the air to help them pillory Sarah Palin...instead they got admiration, respect and Gravel's perspective that she's the one with more executive experience than any of the other three candidates.
H2O MAN
 
  0  
Tue 9 Sep, 2008 05:27 pm
@Ramafuchs,
It's not a diversion, it's real change.


Pity Ramafuchs.
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firefly
 
  4  
Tue 9 Sep, 2008 05:53 pm
@cicerone imposter,
This is the message the Democrats have to get across regarding Palin--because it's true.

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/n/H/2/palin-bush-lipstick.jpg

The only difference between Bush and Palin is lipstick.
H2O MAN
 
  1  
Tue 9 Sep, 2008 06:09 pm
@firefly,
The office does tend to age the administration.
Ramafuchs
 
  0  
Tue 9 Sep, 2008 06:15 pm
@H2O MAN,
I am of the opinion that some of the decent/regular posters like CI and blueflame are wasting their enrgy to instill some drop of rationality in this political forum.
I feel pity for those americans sir.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Tue 9 Sep, 2008 07:44 pm
@firefly,
I understand fully now why men are attracted to Palin. LOL
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okie
 
  0  
Tue 9 Sep, 2008 08:11 pm
@slkshock7,
slkshock7 wrote:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpBXYcgXV8M[/youtube]

This is hilarious......

Indeed that was hilarious! Mike Gravel won't be invited anywhere with Democrats anymore. Maybe he should call Joe Lieberman and they may have something in common. LOL. That is hilarious.
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okie
 
  1  
Tue 9 Sep, 2008 08:13 pm
@Ramafuchs,
ci and blueflame truly need to be worried about their credibility, not that they had a whole lot, but ramafuchs, the marxist, is complimenting them. NNNNNOOOOOOOO, please do not compliment me, Rama.

To be clear, ci, you do have more credibility than blueflame, but that doesn't take a whole lot.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Tue 9 Sep, 2008 08:43 pm
@okie,
okie, Once in a blue moon, I agree with your post, but they are usually non-political in nature. I really don't need your ratings about my credibility; I usually post what I think, and delete those people I don't bother reading.

That's the beauty of this "new" a2k; we have a choice in who we wish to read and/or communicate with.

okie
 
  1  
Tue 9 Sep, 2008 09:49 pm
@cicerone imposter,
ci, I have come to really like your posts. You pull no punches, you are sarcastic, but you generally keep things out of the gutter, which is refreshing. Our main disagreement is Bush, you think he lied us into war, and the war is breaking us. I tend to agree the war is a drag, and so although I am happy we knocked out Hussein, I increasingly think we need to move as quickly as possible to lower our military spending over there. I agree big time that we need to somehow rein in the budget and federal spending and deficit. We need somebody to shake up Washington and reform the place, but reform it back to stimulating the free enterprise in this country, not more toward the European model of socialism.

No, I would not at all place you in the same category as blueflame.

I haven't deleted very many people's posts, and I have not placed anybody in my ignore box. I want to see what everybody thinks.
firefly
 
  2  
Tue 9 Sep, 2008 10:41 pm
@okie,
No one is actually going to shake up and reform Washington, although that is what McCain is claiming he will do with his new "Maverick" ads. The one thing I do admire about Palin is that she did overturn a deeply entrenched corrupt machine, which was mostly Republican, in her state. But Alaska is not Washington and the problems are no way comparable. It's not a simple case of the bad guys vs the good guys. You really can't reform Washington because a good part of the problem involves the lobbyists, and astronomical sums of money.

Quote:

Washingtonpost.com
The Road to Riches Is Called K Street
Lobbying Firms Hire More, Pay More, Charge More to Influence Government

By Jeffrey H. Birnbaum
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, June 22, 2005



To the great growth industries of America such as health care and home building add one more: influence peddling.

The number of registered lobbyists in Washington has more than doubled since 2000 to more than 34,750 while the amount that lobbyists charge their new clients has increased by as much as 100 percent. Only a few other businesses have enjoyed greater prosperity in an otherwise fitful economy.

The lobbying boom has been caused by three factors, experts say: rapid growth in government, Republican control of both the White House and Congress, and wide acceptance among corporations that they need to hire professional lobbyists to secure their share of federal benefits.

"There's unlimited business out there for us," said Robert L. Livingston, a Republican former chairman of the House Appropriations Committee and now president of a thriving six-year-old lobbying firm. "Companies need lobbying help."

Lobbying firms can't hire people fast enough. Starting salaries have risen to about $300,000 a year for the best-connected aides eager to "move downtown" from Capitol Hill or the Bush administration. Once considered a distasteful post-government vocation, big-bucks lobbying is luring nearly half of all lawmakers who return to the private sector when they leave Congress, according to a forthcoming study by Public Citizen's Congress Watch.

Political historians don't see these as positive developments for democracy. "We've got a problem here," said Allan Cigler, a political scientist at the University of Kansas. "The growth of lobbying makes even worse than it is already the balance between those with resources and those without resources."

In the 1990s, lobbying was largely reactive. Corporations had to fend off proposals that would have restricted them or cost them money. But with pro-business officials running the executive and legislative branches, companies are also hiring well-placed lobbyists to go on the offensive and find ways to profit from the many tax breaks, loosened regulations and other government goodies that increasingly are available.

"People in industry are willing to invest money because they see opportunities here," said Patrick J. Griffin, who was President Bill Clinton's top lobbyist and is now in private practice. "They see that they can win things, that there's something to be gained. Washington has become a profit center."

Take the example of Hewlett-Packard Co. The California computer maker nearly doubled its budget for contract lobbyists to $734,000 last year and added the elite lobbying firm of Quinn Gillespie & Associates LLC. Its goal was to pass Republican-backed legislation that would allow the company to bring back to the United States at a dramatically lowered tax rate as much as $14.5 billion in profit from foreign subsidiaries.

The extra lobbying paid off. The legislation was approved and Hewlett-Packard will save millions of dollars in taxes. "We're trying to take advantage of the fact that Republicans control the House, the Senate and the White House," said John D. Hassell, director of government affairs at Hewlett-Packard. "There is an opportunity here for the business community to make its case and be successful."

The Republicans in charge aren't just pro-business, they are also pro-government. Federal outlays increased nearly 30 percent from 2000 to 2004, to $2.29 trillion. And despite the budget deficit, federal spending is set to increase again this year, especially in programs that are prime lobbying targets such as defense, homeland security and medical coverage.

In addition, President Bush has signed into law five major tax-cut bills over the past four years. His administration has also curtailed regulation. Over the past five years, the number of new federal regulations has declined by 5 percent, to 4,100, according to Clyde Wayne Crews Jr., a vice president of the Competitive Enterprise Institute. The number of pending regulations that would cost businesses or local governments $100 million or more a year has declined even more, by 14.5 percent to 135 over the period.

Companies have had to redouble their lobbying merely to keep track of it all. "Much of lobbying today is watching all the change that's going on in Washington," Cigler said. "Companies need more people just to stay apprised of what regulators are doing."

At the same time, government activism has presented potential problems for business. "As government grows, unless you're right there to limit it, it can intrude in just about any industry," Livingston said. "There are agencies that love to do things and acquire new missions. People in industry better have good lobbyists or they're going to get rolled over."

But whether it is to protect themselves against harm or to win more benefits, executives and insiders say they have no choice but to hire lobbyists who are deeply rooted in official Washington and its complexities. "Hiring a lobbyist is part of system these days," said Kent Cooper, co-founder of PoliticalMoneyLine, a nonpartisan compiler of lobbying and campaign-funding information.

Jonas Neihardt, vice president of federal government affairs for Qualcomm Inc., the San Diego technology company, agreed: "Without professional lobbyists I don't see how a company can monitor everything that's going on or provide the inputs that are necessary to explain why rules and laws have to be changed."

The result has been a gold rush on K Street, the lobbyists' boulevard. Quinn Gillespie has added at least 16 clients and six professionals since its co-founder, Edward W. Gillespie, announced last November that he was returning after a stint as chairman of the Republican National Committee. Barbour Griffith & Rogers LLC, another lobbying firm, increased the number of lobbyists to 15, from eight in 2003.

The owner of a large lobbying shop said that five years ago he could hire veteran Capitol Hill staffers for $200,000 a year or less. Now the going rate is closer to $300,000 a year and the most-sought-after aides can expect even more. In 2002, Susan B. Hirschmann, chief of staff to House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.), had so many lobbying offers that she enlisted Robert B. Barnett, the attorney for Bill Clinton and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), to receive and filter them.

For retiring members of Congress and senior administration aides, the bidding from lobbying firms and trade associations can get even more fevered. Well-regarded top officials are in high demand and lately have commanded employment packages worth upward of $2 million a year. Marc F. Racicot, a former Montana governor who chaired the Republican National Committee, will soon collect an annual salary of $1 million-plus as president of the American Insurance Association.

The fees that lobbyists charge clients have also risen substantially. Retainers that had been $10,000 to $15,000 a month for new corporate clients before President Bush took office now are $20,000 to $25,000 a month or more, lobbyists say.

All-Republican lobbying firms have boosted their rates the most. Fierce, Isakowitz & Blalock and the Federalist Group report that at the end of the Clinton administration, $20,000 a month was considered high. Now, they say, retainers of $25,000 to $40,000 a month are customary for new corporate clients, depending on how much work they do.

Such fee inflation is widespread, even by newcomers. Venn Strategies LLC, a bipartisan lobbying firm that opened in 2001, has doubled its retainer for new clients. "When we first started, most of them came in at $7,500 a month or $10,000 a month," said Stephanie E. Silverman, a principal in the firm. "Now retainers are more in the $15,000- and $25,000-a-month range."

Corporate clients accept the extra cost as the price of success in Washington. At the turn of the year, the American Ambulance Association decided to step up its lobbying and switched to Patton Boggs LLP, the Capitol Hill powerhouse, from a smaller lobbying shop across town. In the process it boosted its lobbying budget by about a third, to more than $300,000 a year.

"It is essential we have a very strong presence," said Robert L. Garner, president of the association. "It's pricey, but it's the cost of doing business in the federal environment."


Both Obama and McCain have vowed to address the problem, but the scope of the problem is enormous and deeply interwined with government. And it's not a simple matter of getting rid of lobbyists--it's really a matter of resisting their pressure.

Quote:


The Washington Times
Saturday, June 7, 2008

EDITORIAL: Lobbyists and Washington politicians

He insists he will curtail the influence of lobbyists and return government "to the people." His anti-lobbyist statements have aroused among the loudest cheers at his phenomenal rallies. He has declared: "I am in this race to tell the corporate lobbyists that their days of setting the agenda in Washington are over. They have not funded my campaign, they will not get a job in my White House, and they will not drown out the voices of the American people when I am president."

Mr. Obama's anti-lobbyist stance strikes a chord among Americans. In a recent Gallup survey of honesty and ethics among various professions, lobbyists came in last - behind even lawyers, congressmen and car salesmen. The public antipathy to lobbyists is in part based on a perception that they are pleading for special, marginal interests that are being placed in Congress ahead of the common good. Voters are also concerned that lobbyists entreat politicians to support special issues by providing large financial inducements or privileges. Lobbyists are thus often regarded as the root cause of many of America's political ills - such as deadlock in Congress, partisanship and pork-barrel spending.

Mr. Obama has brilliantly capitalized on these public concerns by insisting on funding his campaign with small donations through the Internet. He declares repeatedly that by not taking money from lobbyists he will be more representative of the people's concerns once he is elected.

The groundswell of support Mr. Obama has received has prompted his chief rival, John McCain, to follow suit in limiting the influence of lobbyists. There has been a steady stream of resignations from Mr. McCain's campaign by aides who have connections to lobbyists; other advisers have been obliged to sever relations with their clients. Mr. McCain's camp is also bringing attention to his role as Senate committee chairman in exposing the misdeeds of Jack Abramoff - the Republican lobbyist who was sentenced in 2006 to two years in prison for bribery and influence peddling. In May, Mr. McCain unveiled a new ethics and disclosure policy, which demands transparency on lobbyist activities. He has also banned registered lobbyists from working for him.

Both candidates are thus competing for the mantle of reform leader. Both candidates are indeed trailblazers. Mr. Obama led the successful reform of ethics laws in Illinois while he was state senator. Also, Mr. Obama's ban on federal lobbyists serving on his campaign and his refusal to accept funds from lobbyists for a major national campaign is unprecedented. Mr. McCain can tout passage of the McCain-Feingold bill in 2002, which sought to restrict soft money in campaigns - despite the fierce objections of conservatives who rightly insist the bill restricts basic American freedoms. Mr. McCain has also stood against earmarks. He has credibility on an issue that concerns American voters.

Despite the achievements of both candidates, both are being accused of hypocrisy. Mr. Obama relied on lobbyists and accepted their contributions when he ran for the Senate in 2004; his current lobbying policy allows for lobbyists to volunteer to participate in his campaign; and the family members of lobbyists can provide funds. Mr. McCain, on the other hand, now bans lobbyists from even volunteering in his campaign - yet his original campaign staff had many ties to lobbyists and he is currently still willing to accept funds from lobbyists.

The real issue at stake in 2008 is not which candidate will be entirely free of lobbyist ties or which candidate can root them from political participation: Both tasks are impossible and are unconstitutional. Voters must ultimately ponder: Which candidate can set a standard for integrity, independence, strength and resolve in responding to the needs of the American people - despite all the pressures and counter pressures he will inevitably face once he is seated in the Oval Office?


The good thing about Obama is that he hasn't been in Washington long enough to be completely mired in this stuff, and he's already tried to address the problem.

The bad thing about Palin is that she undercuts McCain's campaign against earmarks because she actively went after them. And, when it comes to reforming Washington, she's way, way, way out of her league--even if she brought along her hunting rifle.



Brandon9000
 
  0  
Wed 10 Sep, 2008 05:11 am
@slkshock7,
slkshock7 wrote:

...youtube...

This is hilarious....two obviously liberal radio commentators invited former Alaska Senator and Democratic Presidential Candidate Mike Gravel on the air to help them pillory Sarah Palin...instead they got admiration, respect and Gravel's perspective that she's the one with more executive experience than any of the other three candidates.

You're right, it is hysterical. A pair of obviously liberal news people started out with the pretense of an objective exploration of Palin, and then, when they didn't get the results they wanted, began trying desperately to feed the interviewee the "right" opinions.
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H2O MAN
 
  0  
Wed 10 Sep, 2008 05:37 am
Poll Shows Large Shift to McCain Among White Women

This is a worst case scenario for Obama.
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okie
 
  1  
Wed 10 Sep, 2008 06:23 am
@firefly,
firefly, one big point about lobbyists: lobbyists are simply people trying to protect the interests of "special interests." Special interests is a buzzword for all kinds of things, and some of them are totally legitimate. For example, any business interest is a special interest, but a pretty darn good one, thank goodness for businesses. And thanks to lobbyists, they are able to educate ignorant lawyers attempting to regulate business out of business and tax the bejeebers out of them. Its protection money. And protection money would not be so necessary if the federal government did not have its nose into pretty much everything, more than it has any business to.

In contrast, some lobbyists are not so wholesome, there are so called public interest groups claiming to be looking after my interests, and they are way off base. Example, AARP, they are now what I would call a liberal retired persons organization, they subtly support Democrat causes and issue.

On balance, lobbyists are necessary, given the over involvement of the federal government into every facet of every person's life and every business interest, and every other kind of interest. Lawyers, who are basically ignorant of most things, businesses, and issues that they regulate and make laws about, would really screw things up alot worse than they do without lobbyists I think. If we could reduce the size of government's influence over alot of things, the number of lobbyists would decrease, because protection money would not be as necessary. But I come back to this, lobbyists do not corrupt government. Corrupt lawmakers and bureaucrats corrupt government.
 

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