Cycloptichorn
 
  2  
Wed 3 Sep, 2008 10:34 am
@Woiyo9,
She's already under investigation. She wants to transfer that investigation away from a group she doesn't control, to one that she does. Once the AG is in charge she can order him to drop the charges and he'll have to do it.

It's bullshit, but an exact copy of what Bush and Cheney have done many, many times. Just more of the same. And we're going to smash her with it.

I don't care if you feel it's necessary to insult people, in order to cover up insecurity.

Cycl0ptichorn
Woiyo9
 
  0  
Wed 3 Sep, 2008 10:37 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Insecure? You are the one frothing at the mouth over a champion of womans causes.

The left is HYSTERICAL because a viable, educated, experienced conservative woman on a winning ticket.
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Cycloptichorn
 
  2  
Wed 3 Sep, 2008 10:37 am
The McCain campaign has been caught in another lie about Palin.

Quote:
Palin And The FBI Background Check -- Updated

01 Sep 2008 01:52 pm
The Federal Bureau of Investigation did not participate in the vetting of Gov. Sarah Palin and did not conduct a background check as part of the process, an FBI spokesman said today.

The Washington Post reported Sunday, citing an interview with campaign manager Rick Davis, that the vetting process "included reviews of financial and other personal data, an FBI background check and considerable discussion among the handful of McCain advisers involved in the deliberations.

"In general, we do not do vetting for political campaigns except as it might regard investigations needed for security clearances," said John Miller, the chief FBI spokesperson.

The FBI did not participate in a vet, nor did it run a background check of Gov. Palin as part of the process.

Palin might already have a clearance that relates to her duties as governor. But the FBI can't speak to that, and in any event, those investigations wouldn't be accessible to the McCain campaign anyway.



http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/palin_and_the_fbi_background_c.php

Guess we shouldn't be surprised.

Cycloptichorn
Woiyo9
 
  1  
Wed 3 Sep, 2008 10:40 am
@Cycloptichorn,
You are the fool.

Before posting this crap, one might just want to find out if as a Governor of a State, did the FBI run a background check. My guess would be they have.

Keep digging!
Diest TKO
 
  3  
Wed 3 Sep, 2008 10:41 am
@Woiyo9,
Woiyo9 wrote:
You, should go back to the corner and cower like the little girl you are acting like!


...acting like a girl...
...acting like a girl...
...acting like a girl...
...acting like a girl...
...acting like a girl...
...acting like a girl...
...acting like a girl...
...Palin is awesome...

Yeah. nice one woiyo. I guess "acting like a girl" is negative thing in your book, even when you're supporting one.

LOL

Too ironic.
K
O
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Cycloptichorn
 
  4  
Wed 3 Sep, 2008 10:45 am
@Woiyo9,
Woiyo9 wrote:

You are the fool.

Before posting this crap, one might just want to find out if as a Governor of a State, did the FBI run a background check. My guess would be they have.

Keep digging!


Maybe that's your guess, but you have no evidence. And I doubt the FBI runs background checks of Governors. Why would they? It isn't as if they can declare her no longer the governor. On the other hand, we have the FBI saying they didn't run a check. That seems like actual evidence that they, yaknow, didn't do one.

Don't be naive, Woiyo. The campaign lied.

Cycloptichorn
BumbleBeeBoogie
 
  1  
Wed 3 Sep, 2008 10:52 am
Palin Comparison: Not Enough "Northern Exposure" in the Press?
by By Greg Mtichell , Editor
Editors and Publishers
8/31/08

Palin Comparison: Not Enough "Northern Exposure" in the Press?
Interviewed by a reporter from Alaska, Sarah Palin could not testify to her national security experience. And Cindy McCain says it amounts to Alaska being close to Russia.

It has come to this.

When a Fox News morning host, Steve Doocy, testified to Sarah Palin's national security experience on Friday by saying that her state, Alaska, was so close to Russia, it drew hoots across the media and blogosphere (and even, no doubt, from a few Fox viewers).

This morning, on ABC in an interview with George Stephanopoulos, Cindy McCain, wife of the GOP standard bearer who had just picked Palin as his running mate, endorsed this very view.

Asked about Palin's national security experience, Cindy McCain could not come up with anything beyond the fact that, after all, her state is right next to Russia. "Remember that Alaska is the closest part of our continent to Russia," she declared. She added that Palin has "way more experience than...." but Stephanopoulos cut her off before she could say, for example, "Barack Obama" or maybe "others give her credit for."

Earlier, she said that Palin was "heavily experienced" in general, citing her going from the PTA to mayor to governor -- and having a son headed for Iraq. She actually said that she started her political career at the PTA "like everybody else."

Meanwhile, Palin's mother-in-law, Faye Palin, told a New York Daily News reporter that she didn't agree with Sarah on everything and hadn't yet decided how she would vote. She added: "I'm not sure what she brings to the ticket other than she's a woman and a conservative. Well, she's a better speaker than McCain," Faye Palin said with a laugh.

But this actually isn't as appalling as a phone interview Palin herself gave yesterday to reporter back home, at the Anchorage Daily News. (E&P has been covering for three days now reports from the Alaska press.)

The reporter, Kyle Hopkins, asked, according to the transcript posted today, "Are you ready to be President Palin if necessary?"

"I am ... I am up to the task, of course, of focusing on the challenges that face America," she answered, and that was all she could say on her behalf on this question. Then she abruptly shifted to how her candidacy would help Alaska. "And I am very pleased with the situation that I am in, when, when you consider the situation now that Alaska will be in.

"And that is Alaska, and Alaskans will be allowed to contribute more to our great country and they'll be allowed to do that because I -- if we're elected -- will be in a position of opening the eyes of the country to what it is that Alaska is all about and what Alaska has to offer. So, I am happy to and very honored to be asked to do this. I know it's going to be great for Alaska."

Who said the woman was against earmarks?

The early returns are not good, with most in the media still stepping lightly around the issue of John McCain's hypocrisy in asserting, for months, that Barack Obama is "dangerously" inexperienced in facing international threats -- and then appointing Sarah Palin as his running mate. If you don't believe it, just keep reading the Alaska newspapers.

Or, take conservative ultra-hawk columnist Charles Krauthammer's word for it, in his blog posting at The Washington Post: "The Palin selection completely undercuts the argument about Obama's inexperience and readiness to lead -- on the theory that because Palin is a maverick and a corruption fighter, she bolsters McCain's claim to be the reformer in this campaign. In her rollout today, Palin spoke a lot about change. McCain is now trying to steal "change" from Obama, a contest McCain will lose in an overwhelmingly Democratic year with an overwhelmingly unpopular incumbent Republican administration. At the same time, he's weakening his strong suit -- readiness vs. unreadiness.

"The McCain campaign is reveling in the fact that Palin is a game changer. But why a game changer when you’ve been gaining? To gratuitously undercut the remarkably successful 'Is he ready to lead' line of attack seems near suicidal."
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
  4  
Wed 3 Sep, 2008 10:54 am
Palin is an effective distraction from the real McCain issues he is trying to avoid. It the economy, stupid!

BBB
Cycloptichorn
 
  4  
Wed 3 Sep, 2008 10:56 am
@BumbleBeeBoogie,
Has anyone else noticed, Palin hasn't given a single interview since she was nominated?

Is that unprecedented or what? Usually they can't WAIT to get people's face out there, to build up familiarity; the Republicans, on the other hand, are hiding her from the public. This says a lot to me about their confidence level in her abilities, which seems to be very low.

Cycloptichorn
Woiyo9
 
  2  
Wed 3 Sep, 2008 11:02 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Neither does the writer of the article or the dope who posted it!
Woiyo9
 
  0  
Wed 3 Sep, 2008 11:02 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Watch her tonight, then the interviews will certainly follow. Be patient.
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H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Wed 3 Sep, 2008 11:05 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

Has anyone else noticed, Palin hasn't given a single interview since she was nominated?

Is that unprecedented or what?


Watch the convention and learn.
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Diest TKO
 
  2  
Wed 3 Sep, 2008 11:07 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Aparently she did give one magazine interview. I think it was people magazine. Issue yet to hit the presses.

T
K
O


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old europe
 
  4  
Wed 3 Sep, 2008 11:11 am
@Woiyo9,
The campaign told The Washington Post that the vetting process included an FBI background check. The FBI says they didn't run a background check.

What's unclear about that, woiyo?
BumbleBeeBoogie
 
  1  
Wed 3 Sep, 2008 11:19 am
Sarah Palin got herself lawyered up and received some clever advice to hide her problems. What is she afraid of being revealed?---BBB

Posted on Wednesday, September 3, 2008
Palin files ethics complaint against self in 'troopergate'
By Lisa Demer | Anchorage Daily News

Gov. Sarah Palin wants a state board to review the circumstances surrounding the dismissal of Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan -- taking the unusual step of making an ethics complaint against herself.

Her lawyer sent an "ethics disclosure" Monday night to Attorney General Talis Colberg. The governor asked that it go to the three-person Personnel Board as a complaint. While ethics complaints are usually confidential, Palin wants the matter open.

The lawyer, Thomas Van Flein, also asked the state legislature to drop its own investigation into the Monegan matter. He says the Personnel Board has jurisdiction over ethics.

A senator running the investigation immediately refused.

The 13-page document gives Palin's view of a controversy that's dogged her for weeks in Alaska. Questions about whether she or others in her family or administration pressured Monegan to fire her ex-brother-in-law, state Trooper Mike Wooten, are now getting intense national attention with her newfound prominence on the national stage. Republican Sen. John McCain announced Friday that she's his pick to be vice president.

Under state law, the board must hire an independent counsel for complaints against the governor to determine whether evidence of a violation of the state ethics act exists.

"Governor Palin believes it will find no conceivable violation of the Ethics Act," her complaint says. She wants the investigation "to put these matters to rest."

The legislature plans to go forward with its investigation, said Sen. Hollis French, an Anchorage Democrat and former state prosecutor who is project director for the case.

That investigation isn't just examining potential abuse of power by the governor, but also others in her administration, French said.

"We're going to proceed. If they want to proceed, that's perfectly within their right but it doesn't diminish our right to do so," he said.

The legislature's special counsel Steve Branchflower so far has not been able to depose either Palin or her husband, Todd. Van Flein indicated the governor likely will not agree to a deposition unless lawmakers turn the matter over to the Personnel Board.

"Assuming you agree to submit to proper jurisdictional process, we can check the Governor's schedule to see when she and the First Gentleman are available for an interview," Van Flein wrote.

He also warned that all communications need to go through the lawyers. He said he had recently learned that Branchflower tried to call Todd Palin directly "on a secure and confidential line. This represents a serious security breach that we may be obligated to report to the Secret Service."

This isn't the first time Palin has lodged a complaint that went before the state Personnel Board.

In late 2004, the former Wasilla mayor joined then state Rep. Eric Croft, an Anchorage Democrat, to seek an investigation into whether then Attorney General Gregg Renkes broke the law through his investments in an energy company that stood to benefit from a state trade deal.

In the days after he resigned in February 2005, Renkes settled with the board and the Palin-Croft complaint was dismissed.

Tom Daniel, an Anchorage labor and employment lawyer hired by the board in the Renkes case, took a quick look at Palin's complaint Tuesday.

"It appears that the Governor has filed an ethics complaint against herself. ... This is very unusual because ethics complaints typically are filed against others," Daniel wrote in an e-mail responding to a Daily News query.

Asked whether the personnel board could take the investigation away from the legislature -- as Palin wants to do -- Daniel answered: "I've never looked at that issue, but I can't see why filing a complaint with the personnel board would deprive the legislature of the right to conduct its own investigation."

The ethics disclosure echoes points made in a four-page backgrounder on the Wooten matter released by the McCain/Palin campaign. Did Van Flein write the background paper on Wooten for the campaign? He didn't answer that question when asked in an e-mail Tuesday evening.

Wooten was married to Palin's sister, Molly McCann, and as recently as this summer, they were still struggling over child custody and visitation.

Among key claims in Palin's complaint:

-- Special Agent Bob Cockrell of the governor's security detail told Todd Palin to let Monegan know about Wooten's threats against Chuck Heath, who is Palin's father and was Wooten's father-in-law.

-- Monegan never told the governor or Todd Palin that Wooten had been disciplined over complaints brought by the family that included tasering his stepson, illegally shooting a moose and telling others that Heath would "eat a f***ing lead bullet" if he helped his daughter get an attorney for the divorce. Wooten ultimately was suspended for five days by troopers but the family says they only learned that when the conflict spilled into public after Monegan's firing. In her complaint, Palin calls the suspension "a slap on the wrist."

-- Recently, Wooten's supervisor intervened when he wouldn't return the children after a visit, the complaint says. Wooten warned his ex-wife he was going to get her and Palin, the complaint says. "There is evidence suggesting that Wooten was following the governor," it says.

Palin is facing another ethics complaint, filed by a former state employee and political activist alleging her office used improper influence to award a state job.

Van Flein is a private lawyer with expertise in employment law hired by the Department of Law because of a potential conflict of interest by Attorney General Talis Colberg, who had contacted Monegan about Wooten. Van Flein is representing the governor's office though some Palin staff have their own lawyers.

Van Flein donated to Palin's campaign for governor in 2006, but he also donated to Democrats.
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DrewDad
 
  2  
Wed 3 Sep, 2008 11:21 am
@Woiyo9,
Woiyo9 wrote:

Neither does the writer of the article or the dope who posted it!

I can't decide if you are a parody of H2O_MAN or if he is a parody of you.
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Cycloptichorn
 
  2  
Wed 3 Sep, 2008 11:21 am
@old europe,
What's unclear is how he can spin it as a positive, instead of a negative. Thus the confusing floundering about that we see from him.

Cycloptichorn
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Diest TKO
 
  3  
Wed 3 Sep, 2008 11:23 am
@old europe,
old europe wrote:

The campaign told The Washington Post that the vetting process included an FBI background check. The FBI says they didn't run a background check.

What's unclear about that, woiyo?

What's unclear is where he's going to get a ladder to get out of the hole he dug himself.

T
K
O
H2O MAN
 
  0  
Wed 3 Sep, 2008 11:24 am
@Diest TKO,
Diest TKO wrote:


What's unclear is where he's going to get a ladder to get out of the hole he dug himself.




Obama is in a deep hole, but he has yet to realize it.
DrewDad
 
  1  
Wed 3 Sep, 2008 11:26 am
@Diest TKO,
Put head in hole...wait it out... pull head out of hole and hope nobody notices that he didn't address the actual issue....
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