McCain's VP:

@mysteryman,

mysteryman wrote:

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Palin is a comparative unknown with very little experience

The same could have been said about Carter and Clinton, yet they both won.

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Polling alone has shown that Americans have been more aware of Obama since 2004.

You mean when he decided to run for national office?
How many had heard of him BEFORE he ran for Senate.

Yes, but Carter and Clinton both had what you would call 'well developed' opinions about foreign policy matters. Palin has said she hasn't paid attention to Iraq, doesn't know what McCain's plan for Iraq is, and has no idea about any real international issues at all. There remain but 60 or so days till the convention; when is she going to start displaying that knowledge?

Face it, she's not going to help McCain much at all. Maybe the base is happy that she's a Conservative, but that won't bring moderate or Hillary holdout votes...

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

Obama gave the key note at the Dem 2004 convention....remember??!!!

Nobodies don't do that....Palin has never done anything remotely similar.

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@hawkeye10,

And Clinton spoke at the 1988 dem convention, as a nobody.
What does that prove?

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@mysteryman,

conventions are used to pick the raising stars in the party out from the crowd, to highlight them to the masses. Palin has never been thus picked. I have yet to see any indication the Palin has ever until this year been deemed by anyone on the inside as being worthy of national political attention, Carter, Clinton and Obama all had been before they came from "no where" to be the nominee.

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@hawkeye10,

So because you havent seen it that means she isnt qualified?

I guess that every pilot needs to be seen by you to be trained.
And how many doctors have you seen go to medical school?
I guess that means they arent qualified either.

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@mysteryman,

fine, show me some evidence, any evidence, that anyone besides the GOP hard right in the last few months have ever deemed Palin worthy of being a national political figure???

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@mysteryman,

Just like all the others who have been called upon, mysteryman won't confront the question posed. He evades as follows:

mysteryman wrote:

Lets turn the question around...

What about her disqualifies her from being VP?
And dont give generalities or "whatifs", give specifics.

Specifically, Palin is disqualified from being VP based upon the criteria that Candidate McCain publicly stated was necessary. In the transcript of the Republican presidential debate conducted last year, McCain stated the following:

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Cooper: Senator McCain, has this president given too much authority to the vice president?

McCain: Look, I am going to give you some straight talk. This president came to office in a time of peace, and then we found ourselves in 2001.

And he did not have as much national security experience as I do. So he had to rely more on the vice president of the United States, and that's obvious. I wouldn't have to do that. I might have to rely on a vice president that I select on some other issues. He may have more expertise in telecommunications, on information technology, which is the future of this nation's economy. He may have more expertise in a lot of areas.

But I would rely on a vice president of the United States -- but as Fred said, the primary responsibility is to select one who will immediately take your place is necessary. But the vice president of the United States is a key and important issue, and must add in carrying out the responsibilities of the president of the United States.

McCain himself stated that his primary responsibility was to select a person as VP who could immediately take his place, if necessary, as the commander and chief of this nation at a time of war. Sarah Palin, herself, has acknowledged that she knows nothing about being the commander and chief of this country at a time of war. Although her son will be deployed to Iraq next month, she knows nothing more about the situation than that. Because she is not ready to immediately take McCain's place, she is not qualified to be VP in accordance with McCain's publicly-stated criteria.

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@mysteryman,

not in that much disagreement here.

however, when i get on a 747, i would be pretty dismayed to learn that the pilot only had a 100 hours on a cessna 4 seater.

see whudeyemean?

even if we look at it from the standpoint that illinois' state congress has a lot more people to be responsible for than alaska's, or that a first term u.s. senator has more insight into national policies and issues than a first term governor of a large state with a small population, the palin pick defies logic in any terms other than ideological.

just seems to me that being anti-gay, anti-abortion and a life long member of the nra falls short of what is a sensible set of qualifications for veep.

if the idea is that, as mccain was quoted in a previous post as saying, the veep will bring additional expertise in areas where the prez is lacking, what are the areas that palin brings that expertise in?

her ba is listed as a major in journalism and a minor in poli sci. Confused

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@Debra Law,

Drivin you nuts that I'm not worried about Palin....hahaha. Cool

They offered it to her, she took it, she handed it out to the people of Alaska. Deal with it!

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@Lash,

Sounds like a Democrat, not a Conservative Republican, Lash.

I get that it's very important to maintain the 'excited facade' at the moment, but you aren't really defending her actions well - just dismissing them.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

Bush is the one who mailed rebates back to taxpayers....to the squeals of objection by Democrats---who like to spend our money for us.....

Wrong again, cyclo.

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@Lash,

Like I said - sounds like a Democrat, not a Conservative Republican Laughing

Too funny. Are you now going to start claiming Bush is a Fiscal Conservative? I wonder how you would back that up, and how you would react to the entirety of Fiscal Conservatives who have been calling him liberal on this issue for years.

Laughing

You're over-extending yourself here.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

Senators McCain, Obama, Biden and Clinton have some pretty bright people on their staffs. They also have developed a network of advisors committed to them regarding things like foreign policy, the economy, the environment, social issues and on and on and on.
When we vote for Mr MCain or Mr Obama, we are actually voting to adopt or not adopt, the advice of these wonks.
The problem I have with McCain' s VP choice is that she has no wonks working for her, advancing her agenda. She will indeed just sit in her office, twiddling her thumbs.

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@Cycloptichorn,

No, I'm not over-extending myself in the least. You're trying to pre-guess what I'm going to say---and then go ahead and act like I said it...

Bush prefers to put money in the hands of citizens when he can. Palin did the same thing. I like it. That is what I said.

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@realjohnboy,

McCain wants a do nothing VEEP, the problem is that we the people need HIS veep to be competent. I agree with your point, but beyond that she is not backed by any talent we also have no reason to think that she has the ability to pick talent or lead talent.

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@Lash,

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Bush prefers to put money in the hands of citizens when he can...

uh-huh.. not such a bad thing. except he's put the vast majority of our money into the hands of iraq's citizens.

sorry,s. couldn't help meself. old habits die hard an' alla that.

how are ya, btw?

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@DontTreadOnMe,

hi ya DTOM. Been better....fair to middlin....and you?

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@DontTreadOnMe,

Haliburton is doing nicely as well.

Hey, Lash...

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@Rockhead,

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Haliburton is doing nicely as well.

so someone must be satisfied ???
as they say : "show me the money ... and GIVE IT TO ME ! " .
usually politicians - of any stripe or any country - like to take $1 from every citizen and give back 50 cents - it's called helping the "ordinary people" .
hbg

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@mysteryman,

mysteryman wrote:

Lets turn the question around...

What about her disqualifies her from being VP?
And dont give generalities or "whatifs", give specifics.

Normally when folks are asked to buy a brand, the advertiser tries to make the product stand out in some way. I just don't see how Palin stands out.

This isn't me being partisan; I really want to know what why anyone would say, "this is the best person McCain could have chosen for his Vice Presidential running mate."

Frankly, I'm baffled. Is McCain's strategy simply to confuse anyone with enough of a brain to ask "why?"

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