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Grand Duke wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:
Whenever a citizen falls victim to the attacks
of a criminal or an animal, he needs fine quality emergency equipment
(swiftly).

* Not sure of the relevance, but I agree with medical treatment of the injured! It's been about 500 years since any man-eating animals stalked these fair lands. *

Because of the drastic increase of crime in England since
guns were banned, I predict that u will have a re-surgence of guns there,
with a resultant "gun culture".

I haven't noticed any drastic increase in crime where I live or indeed anywhere else in Britain. It's true that reported crime is increasing, but these are not murders & armed-robberies but muggings & thefts by smack-heads for drug money. They usually use knives because they would have sold their guns long ago for money to buy smack!

I'm just really really glad to live 2,000 miles away from America.

I remember reading (among other things) an account from a retired
English police officer who told of being forced to falsify statistics
to conceal the drastic upsurge in crime; e.g., he had to count several
felonies as one crime if theyall happened at the same time n place,
even if to several victims. I've heard that some of your newspapers
have denounced the drasticly greater crime n influx of guns.

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<<* Not sure of the relevance, but I agree with medical treatment of the injured!
It's been about 500 years
since any man-eating animals stalked these fair lands. * >>

I guess St. George took care of that ??

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<<I haven't noticed any drastic increase in crime where I live or indeed anywhere else in Britain. It's true that reported crime is increasing...>>

Well, for that matter, I have never witnessed
a crime taking place, tho I've had occasion to work
in some "hi crime" areas, n seen the police in hot pursuit.

Altho, I DID get shot at, on the road
coming home from my girlfriend's house.

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The fact that you don't know how many guns you have David tells a story in itself.

Psssst.... Stamps don't kill!

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At the risk of stating the obvious, this thread is beginning to resemble a filibuster. One involves oneself in it at risk of one's interest in staying alert...

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Montana wrote:

The fact that you don't know how many guns you have David tells a story in itself.

Psssst.... Stamps don't kill!

Yeah ! That can be a PROBLEM, e.g. if u r on a fishing trip
n a pack of wolves or a cougar goes to nibbling on u,
the stamps will be entirely USELESS, because they CAN'T KILL,
when your survival requires KILLING, on an urgent basis; or

if a burglar hopped up on PCP cuts your fone line and
breaks in on u in your bedroom and starts killing your family in front of u,
your stamp collection will be of no avail because STAMPS DON'T KILL,
and u desperately NEED something that WILL KILL (like Mrs. Susan Gonzales).

GOT THE IDEA ?

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As a matter of general interest:

I imagine that Neo was just endeavoring to be offensive n to hit me
below the belt, in referring to me as a Nazi,

but I wish to make the point that I oppose all forms of socialism,
be thay Hitler's National Socialism, Marx' international socialism,
Fabian socialism or any other form (other than purely voluntary,
e.g., some people who freely opt to form a commune n hold
their property in common).

I favor rugged INDIVIDUALISM

with weak n feeble government unobtrusively
hovering in the background of life, like a little sparrow fart.

Perhaps that is Neo's impression of Nazism.

N.B.: This description applies only to DOMESTIC practice,
NOT to national defense, nor to foreign policy,
which is very different.

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OmSigDAVID wrote:

Grand Duke wrote:
Out of interest, David, how many guns/rifles do you have?

I am not sure.
Collection keeps growing, like my old gold coins.

Tonight was a good night.

I visited my favorite gun store, and altho I cud not get my intended gun,
I got 5 others: 4 revolvers and a pistol. I am pleased

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Oh brother!!! We're all in trouble now!

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Montana wrote:

Oh brother!!! We're all in trouble now!

MY guns r on the side of GOOD.

I support truth, justice, n the American way

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Ok, so what happens if you're not home and some killing nut case breaks into your house and steals all your guns and then comes back to kill you with them along with anyone else they decide to kill along the way? Then they keep a few of the ones they really like and sell the rest of them to a bunch of other nut cases who think killing is cool

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My 8OO pound gun safe

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I figured as much ;-)

Happy trails.

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Montana, give up. Big gun, small something else. In reply to another question, yes, if OmSig and his ilk retain control, then I do believe the dissolution of the US is inevitable. If the US current rate of imprisonment continues unabated, then by the year 2150, every US citizen will either be in prison, or working in one. Doesn't make for a very productive society.

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I did give it up Wilso ;-) What else could I possibly say?

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Wilso wrote:

<snip...>
If the US current rate of imprisonment continues unabated,
then by the year 2150, every US citizen will either be in prison,
or working in one. Doesn't make for a very productive society.

The anti-drug laws shud be repealed.
They were always basicly unAmerican, n devoid of jurisdiction.
Government ultra vires activity.

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HOLD ON HERE:

When did I ever call you a "Nazi"?

PS. It looks like the 2nd Ammendment Absolutionists may have played some "Dirty Pool":

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/09/16_sudbay.html

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/News/40E0CEF6E8826E4286256DA30015CFF5?OpenDocument&Headline=GOP+fund+paid+for+Dolan's+trip+from+Cuba

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He didn't, David. He was quoting Wilso.

NeoGuin wrote:

Wilso wrote:
Grand duke, save your fingers some work. There's as little point in bashing your head against a brick wall as there is in trying to talk sense to a conservative (read Nazi). Just sit back and watch the US dissolve under the weight of their greed and violence.
Wilso:

Do you believe this collapse is inevitable?

Or can it be prevented. I believe it can be prevented but it will take work.

One step is breaking the control that OMSig and his ilk, among others, have over this country.

NOTE TO MOD: If this may merit another topic, please PM me!

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NeoGuin wrote:

HOLD ON HERE:

When did I ever call you a "Nazi"?

PS. It looks like the 2nd Ammendment Absolutionists may have played some "Dirty Pool":

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/09/16_sudbay.html

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/News/40E0CEF6E8826E4286256DA30015CFF5?OpenDocument&Headline=GOP+fund+paid+for+Dolan's+trip+from+Cuba

My apologies, Neo.

U were indeed quoting Wilso in calling me a Nazi.
U both had me under disdainful attack
(tho I can't imagine Y ),
such that I fell into error as to WHICH of u accused me of being a Nazi.

I just desired to make the point
that I favor weak n feeble government (domesticly),
and I condemn n reject authoritarianism as anathema.

I support the "cult of the individual" that Hitler despised.

As to the "dirty pool":
there is nothing "dirty" about taking back what is n has always been RIGHTFULLY YOURS.

By the 2nd and 9th Amendments (among other things)
the right to keep n carry guns was put beyond the reach of any government.
It is only by a USURPATION of power
and by ultra vires government activity, beyond its jurisdiction,
that our rights to do so have been infringed.
It is perfectly proper to fight back in all available ways.
It matters not how his travel was paid, as long as he got there
to defeat the unconstitutional
and unAmerican infringement of individual rights. HOOOORAAAAYYYY !!!!!

Wonderful news for EVERYONE, except criminals.

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Every time laws for the discriminatory licensure
of the right to defend your life are REPEALED,
replaced by CCW, crime drops. Lives r saved.

In 2OO3, four states did so.
NO state has EVER changed its mind and returned to
discriminatory licensure. Accordingly, the movement
of Freedom to bear arms in one's own defense is GAINING MOMENTUM,
but is running out of states that have not already adopted it.

Soon, California, NY, n Mass. will be the only states
wherein said discrimination continues to serve
as O.S.H.A. for criminals, protecting them from personal injuries
on-the-job, from the defensive efforts of their victims,
before the criminals slaughter their prey.

Most violent criminals,
in FEAR of their lives, will migrate to those remaining non-free jurisdictions,
thereby drasticly elevating their crime rates,
while the other 47 states live in relative peace
(as e.g., Vermont has always had very little crime,
year after decade, and has NEVER had any gun laws).

Thus, a study in contrasts will exist: side by side.
How long will the the citizens be able to bear the pain
of the extra crime, resulting from the authoritarian,
anti-selfdefense philosophy of their political leaders ?????????

not long, I think

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