AND SO IT BEGINS? SHARIA LAW IN BRITAIN?

What is "the uniquely British culture" in your opinion?

How is this "uniquely culture" reflected NOW in the English and Welsh, the Scottish and the Norther Irish Law?

And why do you insist that their is a "British Law" when there has never been one at all?

Slow down. The law in a country is only one facet of its culture. We were talking, I thought, about whether Islamic society could supplant the British society in Britain one day. That is more than just law.

Its Anglican church, which is its own brand of Protestantism.

The law in a country is only one facet of its culture. We were talking, I thought, about whether Islamic society could supplant the British society in Britain one day.

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The law in a country is only one facet of its culture. We were talking, I thought, about whether Islamic society could supplant the British society in Britain one day.

nothing new , is there ?
the christian/english/american society replaced the native "north-american" society (or whatever they called their land/society) .
look at the history of the world : these shifts do take place - sometimes slowly , sometimes rather quickly , often quite violently .
do you think those shifts should stop now ?
imo these shifts/changes will continue as long as the earth will be rotating .
i don't see anything unusual about it . i'm sure not everyone likes thse changes - but it's simply part of life on earth - we better get used to it - it's been happening for a long time already and the earth is still rotating .
hbg

Are you saying that cultural changes are inevitable and therefore, while we may not personally like them, they should not be resisted?

What if your own environment there in Canada was being encroached on by people with different values, different sense of right and wrong, different sense of human rights, law, ethics, and religious imperatives?

Conventional wisdom says that Muslims resent the freedom the West has to offer, and that this indicates there is an insurmountable cultural chasm between Western and Muslim societies.
However, Gallup data suggest that there are many similarities between Muslims and Americans that transcend culture, tradition, and religion. Strikingly, citizens of predominantly Muslim countries and Americans, for example, are critical of "moral and ethical corruption" and excessive personal freedom.

Gallup surveys also paint a picture of Muslims as people who value faith, family, and a bright future. In this way they are not dissimilar to Americans. Gallup polling suggests that, on some issues, Americans' views are closer to those of Muslims than Western Europeans. For example, a question measuring the purposefulness of life reveals a surprising pattern: 94% of Americans believe their lives have an important purpose. This compares with only 68% of French citizens and 69% in the Netherlands. On the other hand, 96% of Indonesians express this sentiment, as do 91% of Saudi Arabians.

Another question measuring optimism produced similar results. When asked if they feel enthusiastic about their future, 86% of Americans answer in the affirmative, compared with only 69% of French citizens and a surprising 36% of Polish respondents. In contrast, 89% of Saudis and 84% of Jordanians agree.

The inner happiness among Muslims could be based in a strong faith and emphasis on maintaining a deep spiritual life. According to polls in 2001 and again in 2005 and 2006, Muslims in many of the countries surveyed rate "having an enriched religious spiritual life" as something they cannot live without. What's more, when asked what they admire most about the Muslim world, Muslim populations' No. 1 response is "people's sincere adherence to Islam." In many countries, majorities say religion is an important part of their daily lives.

Support is also strong in most nations for freedom of religion and freedom of assembly.

What if your own environment there in Canada was being encroached on by people with different values, different sense of right and wrong, different sense of human rights, law, ethics, and religious imperatives? Would you think that not unusual? As these different things were gradualy, incrementally, bit by bit being forced upon the whole, would you not personally seek to resist it?

And not only does the survey find many common points between Americans and citizens of Muslim countries when it comes to what we would call "secular values". No. There's also an amazing similarity in matters pertaining to religion.

we've lived in canada for only 52 years - and even in that short period of time many attitudinal changes have taken place .
there was quite a bit of animosity between catholics and protestants at that time . it was well known what companies would hire catholics or protestants . the question of "religion" was even on the employment application . i'm glad that's changed .

i still remember telling our nice old lady neighbour - she was a nice catholic lady - that there was a parade in town . i couldn't understand why she swore at me .
it was the "orange men's" parade !
i had no idea of the difference between the catholics and other "christians" .

we now have many muslim professors teaching at our university . we have a mosque in our city - and while some of the (older) people are still having some difficulty accepting all these changes , the changes are taking place - for which i'm glad .

"native" canadians were not permitted to buy alcohol - they were on the "indian list" in the liquor store !

as "newcomers" we may have noticed both the existing differences and the changes taking place more than those canadians that were 3rd or 4th generation canadians .

to us it is quite understandable that changes are taking place .
i am NOT saying that we personally like every last one of these changes , but we are accepting them because we believe that those changes "in total" are positive changes .

if we are not able to accept any changes to our country , we would eventually become inbred - and we don't think that's a good idea .

(btw you may have overlooked that i also pointed out that the coming of the "western" races to north-america profoundly changed the lives of the native people - often with disastrous results . are we all going to go back to where we - or our ancestors - came from ?) .
hbg

So again, would you just accept a group seeking majority status if that majority status would mean a wholly different culture would replace what you now have? A culture less tolerant, less atuned to human rights, less agreeable to religious freedom, and less willing to allow the people to live their lives and govern themselves unmolested? Would you accept that as inevitable or even positive change? Or would you try to resist that?

How, exactly, do you "seek majority status"?

Why do you think that Muslims are less tolerant than other people?
Why do you think that Muslims are less attuned to human rights than other people?
Why do you think that Muslims are less agreeable to religious freedom than other people?
Why do you think that Muslims are less willing to allow others to live their lives than other people?
Why do you think that Muslims are less willing to allow others to govern themselves unmolested than other people?

Even in the Moorish (Islamic) Golden Age of Spain, Spanish Jews could rise to be advisers and doctors to the leaders; however, they were not considered first class citizens, as I have heard. Why? That is really a non-sequitor; what is important is that it seems to be a consistent historical pattern from the perspective of non-Muslims.

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Even in the Moorish (Islamic) Golden Age of Spain, Spanish Jews could rise to be advisers and doctors to the leaders; however, they were not considered first class citizens, as I have heard. Why? That is really a non-sequitor; what is important is that it seems to be a consistent historical pattern from the perspective of non-Muslims.

Compare the way the Spanish Jews were treated by the Moors with how Jews were treated in Christian countries at the same time.

Hint: The Moors were the good guys.

I understand your point; however, I put it in context of it having been during the Golden Age of Spain, so the Moors could not have had any resentment towards a Christian Europe that was more advanced.