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Supreme Court Awards Habeas Corpus To Guantanamo Detainees

 
 
oralloy
 
Reply Thu 12 Jun, 2008 09:02 am
AP: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/scotus_guantanamo

Reuters: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/guantanamo_court_dc
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jun, 2008 09:07 am
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ROME (AFP)--The White House on Thursday said it was reviewing the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling that detainees held at the U.S. military base at Guantanamo Bay have the right to appeal to federal courts.

Aides to U.S. President George W. Bush "are reviewing the opinion," said spokeswoman Dana Perino, who declined immediate comment on what was seen as a blow to the administration's "war on terrorism" policies.


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DrewDad
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jun, 2008 09:11 am
About damn time, IMO.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jun, 2008 09:21 am
Excellent news for those who value freedom and equal rights for all.

Cycloptichorn
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jun, 2008 10:04 am
Links to today's habeas corpus rulings:
Links to today's habeas corpus rulings:

http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/07pdf/06-1195.pdf

http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/07pdf/06-1666.pdf
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jun, 2008 11:20 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Excellent news for those who value freedom and equal rights for all.

Cycloptichorn


Don't forget terrorist sympathizers and future terrorists. Excellent news for them as well.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jun, 2008 11:21 am
McGentrix wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Excellent news for those who value freedom and equal rights for all.

Cycloptichorn


Don't forget terrorist sympathizers and future terrorists. Excellent news for them as well.


"The laws and Constitution are designed to survive, and remain in force, in extraordinary times."
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jun, 2008 11:22 am
McGentrix wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Excellent news for those who value freedom and equal rights for all.

Cycloptichorn


Don't forget terrorist sympathizers and future terrorists. Excellent news for them as well.


From the opinion:

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"The laws and Constitution are designed to survive, and remain in force, in extraordinary times," Justice Anthony M. Kennedy wrote for the court.


Yes, it protects those who are accused of terrorism, just as it protects those accused of any crime. It is one of the prime tenets of our country, that people are considered innocent until proven guilty, and not the other way around.

Cycloptichorn
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jun, 2008 11:31 am
A long time coming.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jun, 2008 11:41 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
It is one of the prime tenets of our country, that people are considered innocent until proven guilty, and not the other way around.

COMMIE!!!
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jun, 2008 07:01 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
It is one of the prime tenets of our country, that people are considered innocent until proven guilty, and not the other way around.


I imagine this will step up efforts to get the military tribunals going so they can be proven guilty.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jun, 2008 07:33 pm
As usual I am the contrarian, I find it allarming that it has taken this many years to get here, and that four votes against could be found on the Supreme Court. This would have been a great day......about five years ago.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jun, 2008 08:21 pm
oralloy wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
It is one of the prime tenets of our country, that people are considered innocent until proven guilty, and not the other way around.


I imagine this will step up efforts to get the military tribunals going so they can be proven guilty.


Problems with our corrupt tribunal system aside, I agree.

Cycloptichorn
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jun, 2008 11:40 pm
oralloy wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
It is one of the prime tenets of our country, that people are considered innocent until proven guilty, and not the other way around.


I imagine this will step up efforts to get the military tribunals going so they can be proven guilty.


Yep.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/guantanamo_mukasey

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/usattacksguantanamojusticejapan
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 13 Jun, 2008 02:36 am
decision "throws into disarray the administration's detention strategy, almost certainly leaving to Bush's successor and the next congress the dilemma of what to do with the Guantanamo Bay detainees," the New York Times asserts.

"To the extent that Guantanamo exists to hold detainees beyond the reach of US courts, this blows a hole in its reason for being," Matthew Waxman, a former detainee affairs official at the defence department, tells the Washington Post.

New York Times: Camp remains, but not its legal rationale

Washington Post: Strategy for detention in disarray
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Endymion
 
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Reply Fri 13 Jun, 2008 06:24 am
Boys they took there 7 years ago are now tortured men

The last British captive (still there) has lost his mind

The prison set up is an utter disgrace to humanity

I hope this is a sign of better things to come, i really do
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 13 Jun, 2008 06:25 am
oralloy wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
It is one of the prime tenets of our country, that people are considered innocent until proven guilty, and not the other way around.


I imagine this will step up efforts to get the military tribunals going so they can be proven guilty.


The tone of this post suggests that all of the detainees will be found guilty because they are guilty.

Of course, none of our boys would ever have made a mistake about any of this. Naturally, the bounties which were paid to dirt-poor Afghans in the tribal areas of Waziristan would never have lead them to turn someone in for reasons of petty revenge or simple greed.

They're all guilty, we know this. If you don't believe me, just ask Oralloy.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Fri 13 Jun, 2008 07:17 am
Setanta wrote:
oralloy wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
It is one of the prime tenets of our country, that people are considered innocent until proven guilty, and not the other way around.


I imagine this will step up efforts to get the military tribunals going so they can be proven guilty.


The tone of this post suggests that all of the detainees will be found guilty because they are guilty.


Precisely.

http://photos.goldmarkart.com/art/54/54_1357_m.jpg
"Sentence first -- verdict afterwards."
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 13 Jun, 2008 07:50 am
Some of these poor suckers have already served a sentence of more than six years, no? The Red Queen would approve . . .
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 13 Jun, 2008 08:11 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
"To the extent that Guantanamo exists to hold detainees beyond the reach of US courts, "
New York Times: Camp remains, but not its legal rationale

Washington Post: Strategy for detention in disarray

Yes, we wouldn't want those legislating-from-the-bench judges get ahold of this....

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