A Vice Presidental candidate thread.

firefly-

What are we supposed to make of "several experienced military officers" and " some"? Is it some of the several and how many is several anyway. Three could be several if you are pushing words this far. How many experienced officers are there in the US?

This is pushing words to their limits-



Is nuclear armageddon what you are trying to scare the wobblies with? That Mr McCain might press the red button because his coffee has only one sugar in it?

Who's that everybody? Of course they're not going to change the ticket after all now. I havent seen anyone seriously suggest they will. Now I'm sure I missed some who did, but the plenty commentators that I've seen saying, "no of course they're not going to do that" by themselves already show your remark to be nonsense.

CNN: "McCain Revealed" Transcript
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0808/20/se.01.html

Some excerpts concerning McCain's temper and outbursts:

KING (on camera): You're a complicated man. And as you know there are some people who say, John McCain, volcanic temper. He's irascible. The guy can be a son of a bitch. He holds a grudge if he doesn't like you. And then you talk to other people who tell these stories. Who are you?

MCCAIN: It's not my most favorite subject but the fact is, I was not a mature person in many respects as I was growing up. I hoped that I reached a point where I began to understand and appreciate the fact that you can't have everything all your own way because that certainly is what immaturity is.

[NOTE: McCain still doesn't understand or appreciate the fact that he can't have everything his own way! The way he responded to the Brown/Bounds interview was immature.]

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[McCain's former press secretary, Torie Clarke, talking about a news conference about the Keating Five scandal:]

KING: McCain aides say he was stung at the suggestion he could be bought. At a news conference, Torie Clarke was so worried his anger would boil over, she took a seat in the front row.

CLARKE: We had our signal worked out. If he started to lose his temper, I would rub my nose. I came close. I think my hand came up a few times. But I never really had to do it. I thought that the factors were there -- the elements were in place that he was going to explode in a big public way. It might have happened at that press conference.

KING: It was not the first time his temper was an issue -- and hardly the last.

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[Concerning Cindy McCain's drug scandal:]

KING: Most of the media coverage was favorable. But not all. An "Arizona Republic" editorial cartoon depicted Cindy stealing drugs from a disadvantaged baby.

MCCAIN: I thought that that cartoon was gratuitous and obviously offensive.

C. MCCAIN: He was furious.

KING (on camera): So furious that he ordered everyone not to talk to the newspaper?

C. MCCAIN: Right.

KING: For a year?

C. MCCAIN: I don't remember the time, but, yes. That's about right, yes.

KING (voice-over): It was not the first time the newspaper had felt McCain's wrath.

In 1991, longtime columnist E.J. Montini was struck during the Clarence Thomas hearings when both of Arizona's senators, McCain and Democrat Dennis DeConcini announced they would vote to confirm Thomas to the Supreme Court before Anita Hill detailed her claims of sexual harassment.

E.J. MONTINI, COLUMNIST: So I wrote a column for the next day saying, gee, our two senators must have some kind of sixth sense. And it was -- you know, the point of view where it said they -- they can see this woman is a liar even before she testifies and -- because she hadn't said a word yet.

My phone rang. I picked up my phone and it was Senator McCain on the phone.

KING (on camera): He called you directly?

MONTINI: Oh, yes. And he was quite upset and very, very angry and talking about how I had assassinated his character.

KING (voice-over): It would be 12 years of silence from McCain before this note came in the mail praising the Montini column.

MONTINI: I do think that he has a long memory and I do think that he -- that if you get on his bad side, the opportunities for you to get on his good side are very small and very limited.

TOM DASCHLE, FORMER SENATOR: So it just was part of working with John McCain.

KING: Democrat Tom Daschle is among many in Washington with memories of McCain's sharp tongue.

(on camera): So it's a string of expletives and insults? DASCHLE: Right.

KING: The end goal being to let off steam or is he trying to bully you?

DASCHLE: Probably a little of both. I don't know. I'm not a psychoanalyst. I have no idea what may behind those outbursts. But they happen with some frequency.

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I don't know how many more examples we need to understand that McCain is UNFIT to be president.

The National Enquirer has gained new found respect for investigative journalism recently, so this article about Palin may not be so easily dismissed as an alleged smear.

It was the Enquirer that broke the news about John Edward's extra-marital affair after the main stream media all failed to get the story. It was also the Enquirer, years ago, that helped to convict O.J. Simpson in his civil trial, since they obtained a photo of him in the shoes he wore the night of the murders which had left footprints at the crime scene.

I doubt the Enquirer would run such a story about Palin if they did not have strong sources or evidence to back it up. They have their own lawyers look at stories like this before they publish them.

Threatening to sue won't help the McCain camp. They better pray the story isn't true.

This is funny! This is coming just one day after Rick Davis, campaign manager for John McCain, said in an interview with the Washington Post:

firefly wrote: "Threatening to sue won't help the McCain camp. They better pray the story isn't true."

Absolutely. The people at the National Enquirer probably know the law concerning defamation better than anyone else. If they're willing to expose themselves to McCain's wrath, they must have some bullet-proof sources for their story.

old europe, that is funny.

Besides the story about her alleged affair with her husband's business partner, this is the other story the National Enquirer is currently running on Palin:



The Enquirer has sent a team of reporters to Alaska to dig up info on Palin. They will find out all the things the Republicans missed by not properly vetting her.

nimh dear-

Which side are you on mate? You've got me fooled.

That should be interesting. She's already had some legal issues about improper use of power, and her attempt to censure books in their schools. I'm almost positive there's much more damning stuff in Alaska besides her gun-toting and pregnant daughter.

nimh wrote-



That they should put their fags out when she comes round the corner on a surprise visit to make sure they are all on full alert in case something unusual happens.

Gotta feel sorry for Bristol. Mom seems to be a control freak.

All women are control freaks mate.

Shouldn't you be in bed at this time of night?

"All women are control freaks mate." I aint buying that even if you got a link.

JTT wrote-



I don't know. What do you think's best. Napoleon was a bit intemperate and that Pythagoras was over the top. Jesus too.

What's so special about caution? We would still be swinging in the trees if we were cautious.

You have to hand it to Levi. Shagging the Gov's daughter gets you into the White House. "Just like that", as Tommy Cooper used to say.

Brilliant. Wherever Valmont is he'll be green with envy. And Casnova. Don Juan as well.

"Must think they have" I presume you mean?

What do I need a link for when I've got eyes and ears?

If Miz Palin had been Governor of Arkansas, all this woulda been double-checked...

(but she IS wise to the russkies)

That's a double plus gold star chart topper if it's true.