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The Case Against John McCain

 
 
old europe
 
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Reply Wed 2 Jul, 2008 02:59 pm
McGentrix wrote:
Well, in this case it's Cochran's word against McCain's and McCain has a witness who has also said it didn't happen.


Not really. McCain has a witness who has said that he doesn't recall anything. He doesn't even recall whether they met with Ortega. He believes he recalls meeting with the foreign minister. Or maybe the interior minister. Maybe somebody else.

Pretty useless witness, eh?


McGentrix wrote:
So, I am sure that means you guys believe Cochran, right?


Well, Cochran says that's what happened. McCain says it didn't happen. There's a witness who says he doesn't remember anything. Personally, I'm going to wait and see how this plays out...


McGentrix wrote:
I mean because he is such an honest and straightforward guy who has nothing to gain or lose by making a story like this available to the press right?


Ah, seriously: what does he have to gain? A post in an Obama government?

I think you're reaching...


McGentrix wrote:
Despite his saying "the idea of McCain as the GOP presidential nominee sent a chill down his spine."


Sure. And he's but one in a long row of conservatives who have said something to that avail in the past.

I'd say that that's a bit meagre if it's all you've got to completely dismiss his story right away.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 2 Jul, 2008 03:33 pm
McGentrix wrote:
Well, in this case it's Cochran's word against McCain's and McCain has a witness who has also said it didn't happen.

old europe wrote:
Not really. McCain has a witness who has said that he doesn't recall anything. He doesn't even recall whether they met with Ortega. He believes he recalls meeting with the foreign minister. Or maybe the interior minister. Maybe somebody else.

Pretty useless witness, eh?

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It's worrisome that many Americans are not worried about McCain's memory or ability to remember the correct enemy or country in chaos. And people are going to vote him as our president?
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old europe
 
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Reply Wed 2 Jul, 2008 03:37 pm
Well, to be fair: in this case it wasn't McCain who didn't remember things - it was Lorne Craner, a former aide to McCain...

But yeah... memory loss seems to be a recurring theme.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 2 Jul, 2008 04:52 pm
blueflame1 wrote:
Report: McCain campaign shakeup promotes 'Bushworld veterans' by Nick Juliano
Published: Wednesday July 2, 2008

Apparently undeterred by accusations that he is running for George W. Bush's third term, Republican presidential candidate John McCain is shaking up his campaign staff to promote several "Bushworld veterans" to top positions, according to a new report.

Politico's Jonathan Martin reports that Steve Schmidt, a senior communications aide in the Bush-Cheney '04 campaign, is now in charge of the "day-to-day operation" of McCain's White House run. The shakeup has created some confusion within McCain's team about who's really running the show.

Schmidt's ascension seems to foretell McCain's campaign shifting towards more personal attacks aimed at Barack Obama. In a campaign memo released last week, Schmidt accused Obama of "self-serving partisanship" and of putting his own needs before those of the country.

The move to promote Schmidt came after "a sluggish ramp-up to the general and number of unforced errors had left the candidate, senior staff and elected officials unhappy with the state of the campaign," Martin reports.

Sources tell Martin that Schmidt, who also ran California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's re-election effort, will coordinate McCain's daily message and "have an increased role in shaping most every facet of the organization," leaving current campaign manager Rick Davis, a former lobbyist, to focus more on big-picture issues.

Now, accounts diverge on the exact nature of the new chain of command. One top McCain source said that Schmidt "assumed full operational control of the campaign today" and described Davis as "a general manager."

But Charlie Black, another top adviser, said Davis was still in charge.

"Steve is going to function under Rick as a [chief operating officer]," Black said. "Rick still has authority over all things. Steve works for Rick."
One of McCain's earliest hires, Schmidt joined the campaign as a communications adviser in December of 2006.

Schmidt is a a veteran of the Bush White House and protege of Karl Rove, Bush's former top political opperative.

Martin reports that several other "Bushworld veterans" are taking on larger roles in the campaign, including Matt McDonald, who worked for the '04 campaign; Taylor Griffin, a former White House spokesman; and Mike DuHaime, who managed Rudy Giuliani's own failed presidential campaign.
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Just came here to post this... this is huge!!! Regardless of the quality of the people involved, it sounds like this is a really fundamental shake-up. I think it makes sense -- McCain himself has been the best thing about his campaign, and stuff the campaign did was often eyebrow-raising to say the least. But it means that they're basically starting from square one at THIS point -- squandering the time they had to plan while Obama was still fending off Hillary.

I also think it reflects the sense within the McCain camp that what they're currently doing isn't working. Hillary had the same thought and did the same thing (though not quite as thoroughly, as far as I can tell), and it didn't work out well for her.

So, interesting.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Wed 2 Jul, 2008 05:06 pm
McBushie. 4 more years. America aint going that way.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 2 Jul, 2008 05:20 pm
By the way, I didn't read the whole piece you posted, just ascertained it was about the same subject and then responded; that piece seems more equivocal about what happened/ what it means than Josh Marshall:

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STARTING FROM SCRATCH?

I think we've now got the tell on the ouster of Rick Davis at the McCain campaign.

It's not just that Davis is being replaced by Steve Schmidt as campaign manager. They are reportedly also scrapping their system of 11 largely autonomous regional managers to run the campaign, an approach to running a national campaign that I do not believe has ever been tried before.

That sounds a lot like they're scrapping the whole operation and starting again from square one, thus squandering the huge advantage they got by sealing up the nomination months in advance of the Democrats.

No doubt, they'll talk about retooling and logical evolutions. But this sounds much more like scrapping the whole org chart and starting from scratch.

Late Update: The Trib discusses what appears to be another key part of this. The McCain hands getting their walking papers to make room for Rove's crew to take over.


Trib link:

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/07/mccain_campaign_shakeup.html
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 2 Jul, 2008 05:24 pm
Wow, Soz, nice find.

Of course the Rove-ish crew are taking over. They know that there is no other choice left, then to try and trash Obama, whip up as much anti-black and anti-muslim sentiment as possible, trash his associations, trash everything in general, and be as negative as possible. They had to bring in the folks who specialize in such things, and it's f*cking pathetic and sad at the same time. I really hope Obama's crew calls them out for it on the national stage.

Cycloptichorn
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 2 Jul, 2008 05:33 pm
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15924.html

Each and every bullet point listed below is linked, if you follow the above link to the original page. I don't have time to hot-link all of them here, but I encourage doubters and skeptics to please look at the links before denying their veracity.

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But in McCain's case, the spin is wholly unfulfilling. First, McCain sells himself as a pol who never sways with the wind, and whose willingness to be consistent in the face of pressure is proof of his character. Second, Republicans have spent the last four years or so making policy reversals the single most serious political crime in presidential politics. The dreaded "flip-flop" is, according to the GOP, the latest cardinal sin for someone seeking national office.

And if we're playing by Republican rules, McCain's "evolutions" should be a fairly serious problem. I'm beginning to think they might be
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 2 Jul, 2008 05:56 pm
McCain would make a great manager - somewhere, but not in the white house.
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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 2 Jul, 2008 06:26 pm
McWeathervane.

To distance himself from Bush, perhaps he should promise to restore integrity, dignity and honor to the WH.

Then again, maybe not. If elected, he'd have to recuse himself as being unfit for such a task.
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Wed 2 Jul, 2008 07:32 pm
This is disturbing and ties McCain to Bushie and the PNAC blueprint for world domination. That blueprint is Bushie's foreign policy and will be McCain's as well. He seems to have let go any pretense that he's different from Bushie. Despite the fact that about 80% of Americans say they want something completely different. "Meet the McCain Team"

Given John McCain's firm allegiance to the core missions of PNAC, it should come as no surprise that many of the old PNAC guard have shown up as foreign policy advisers in McCain's current presidential campaign, and are likely re-emerge as high officials in his administration if he becomes president. Here are snapshots of some of these potential members of a McCain Cabinet, giving their PNAC profiles, their advisory capacities in the McCain 2008 presidential campaign, and their politics.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 5 Jul, 2008 10:47 pm
Analysis: McCain struggles to regain footing

By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer 9 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - John McCain calls himself an underdog. That may be an understatement. The GOP presidential candidate trails Democrat Barack Obama in polls, organization and money while trying to succeed a deeply unpopular fellow Republican in a year that favors Democrats.

McCain also doesn't seem to have a coherent message let alone much of a strategy despite securing the nomination three months earlier than Obama.

"This is a tough race. We are behind. We are the underdog. That's what I like to be," the GOP nominee-in-waiting frequently tells donors these days, keenly aware not only of his woes but also his proven comeback ability: He won his party's nomination despite the implosion of his campaign last summer.

One year later, and now in the general election, McCain's troubles are so acute that he recently gave senior adviser Steve Schmidt "full operational control" of the day-to-day campaign and, effectively, scaled back the duties of campaign manager Rick Davis. The shift in responsibilities came after weeks of Republican quibbling that McCain had not adequately made the transition for the fall.

"The frustration is there's no big theme around which to build a winning campaign," said Steve Lombardo, a Republican pollster. "They need a big strategic message that will show the differences between the two campaigns, and allow for a win."

Hope is far from lost: The election is still four months away. The national conventions and the presidential debates are upcoming. Conservative evangelical leaders skeptical of McCain are now coalescing around him. The race remains competitive. And, Obama's campaign is far from flawless.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 5 Jul, 2008 10:47 pm
Here comes the swift-boaters.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 03:41 pm
John McCain wants to tax employer provided health insurance benefits.
What do you think? Good? Bad? Indifferent?


McCain's health plan: A threat to employer plans?

By KEVIN FREKING and NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writers 2 hours, 12 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - There's a great unknown about Sen. John McCain's health plan: How many employers would drop insurance coverage for their workers because of his tax policies?

The Republican presidential nominee-in-waiting has proposed that everyone buying health insurance get a refundable tax credit, $2,500 for individuals and $5,000 for families. At the same time, he would treat employer contributions toward health insurance like income, meaning workers would have to pay income, but not payroll, taxes on it.

McCain's Democratic rival, Barack Obama, says the plan would "shred" the employer-based system that provides health insurance to about 158 million workers.
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fishin
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jul, 2008 04:04 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
John McCain wants to tax employer provided health insurance benefits.
What do you think? Good? Bad? Indifferent?


McCain's health plan: A threat to employer plans?

By KEVIN FREKING and NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writers 2 hours, 12 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - There's a great unknown about Sen. John McCain's health plan: How many employers would drop insurance coverage for their workers because of his tax policies?

The Republican presidential nominee-in-waiting has proposed that everyone buying health insurance get a refundable tax credit, $2,500 for individuals and $5,000 for families. At the same time, he would treat employer contributions toward health insurance like income, meaning workers would have to pay income, but not payroll, taxes on it.

McCain's Democratic rival, Barack Obama, says the plan would "shred" the employer-based system that provides health insurance to about 158 million workers.


I don't see where it matters much. The tax would be paid by the employee's - not by the employer - so I don't see why employers would suddenly drop coverage as they are attempting to claim. Employer's can still bundle their employees into a group planso they can still get the insurance for their employees cheaper than what the employees could get on their own. It does lessen the value of the benefit but it's still a benefit to the employee.

At the same time, everyone who pays for their insurance (or gets insurance in lieu of pay...) would get a tax credit up to $2500 if filing as single or $5000 if filing as married.

The "pro" of his proposal is that it levels the playing field between those who have employer sponsored insurance and those who pay for their own.

The people that are negatively impacted the most are those with the very best (and most expensive) healthcare insurance. Those people tend to be the senior officers in major corporations - the fabled "Top 1%" of income earners. I don't think many people are going to cry over them having to pay higher taxes.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 7 Jul, 2008 12:48 pm
Part of John McCain's problem is that he has no actual plans on how to do things - just assertions that they will be done.

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07.07.08 -- 1:03PM // link | recommend (11)
We'll Get Back to You on That

I think we may have come to that moment, that quick turn of events, that encapsulates the fact that there is apparently no limit to the howlers and nonsense that John McCain can throw out and still not generate collective guffaws or even scrutiny from the national political press.

Bear with me on this one because it's genuinely mind-boggling.

Today John McCain is getting lots of press for his new plan to balance the budget during his first term -- what can only be called an extraordinarily ambitious promise. The first pick was from Mike Allen's piece late last night in The Politico.

Now, the general routine is the face of this kind of candidate announcement is that journalists and economists look at the numbers to see if they add up. In most cases, the exercises generates fairly unsatisfying contradictory opinions, with some experts saying one thing and other experts another.

But here's the thing. McCain doesn't have any numbers. None. Not vague numbers of fuzzy math. He just says he's going to do it. Any other candidate would get laughed off the stage with that kind of nonsense or more likely reporters just wouldn't agree to give them a write up. But this is all over the place.

The simple truth is that given his foreign policy promises in Iraq and tax cut promises at home there's really no way McCain could come up with even a fuzzy plan to balance the budget in his first term. So he's decided instead just promise it. Included in his white paper is just the standard hocum about cutting waste, fraud and abuse in government and making sure we have "reasonable economic growth."

Remember, this is the guy who's riding on his reputation for 'straight talk'. And he's just promised that he'll balance the budget in his first term. For any serious reporter covering this campaign that should immediately lead to a request for actual numbers to back up how he's going to accomplish that.

As I noted last night, one of McCain's vague assertions was that he "would reserve all savings from victory in the Iraq and Afghanistan operations in the fight against Islamic extremists for reducing the deficit."

So what are the numbers behind that? We just asked the McCain campaign and the response we got was ...

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It's pretty straightforward, as we win, costs will go down with a smaller footprint over time, and those savings will go to deficit reduction. It's really the logical extension of Senator McCain's position as articulated in the 2013 speech. Achieving success in Iraq would obviously lead to reduced expenditures on the effort.


This is what's behind McCain's promise. I'll do a lot of things that will get the deficit down. One of them is the the guarantee of victories in Iraq and Afghanistan and obviously that will save a lot of money.

As I said, this is the reductio ad absurdum of the mad pass John McCain gets on everything. He's pledging to balance the budget in four years and when asked for details he says, 'We'll get back to you on that.'


--Josh Marshall


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/203019.php

Cycloptichorn
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 7 Jul, 2008 12:58 pm
Yeah, that was a good one.

The pass that the press has been giving McCain is really amazing. I'm glad TPM is frothing a bit about it, and hope that maybe possibly it'll make a dent...
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 7 Jul, 2008 01:36 pm
Cyclo, That's a good one! We just have to wait to hear from the right on why McCain will be a better president than Obama.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 7 Jul, 2008 02:25 pm
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/mccains_town_hall_giggles_croc.php

McCain proves that it doesn't take a green screen to make you groan at his terrible performances.

Cycloptichorn
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 7 Jul, 2008 04:15 pm
News story of the week for McCain: he apparently is fond of gambling.

In as of itself, not a serious problem. But apparently he has failed to pay taxes on his winnings at any point.

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Originally I was focused on the lack of a W-2G, but thanks to comments from Mrick it is now clear the question is really why he never posted any winnings on line 21 of his 1040, or any losses on his Schedule A. However, the bottom line is still the same: If you are winning or deducting losses, you have to report this to the IRS and it looks like McCain has never reported ANY winnings or taken ANY deductions -- in spite of heavy betting over many years.


Not a good thing, not paying taxes on your gambling earnings. Not good at all.

The alternative, I guess, is to accept that he lost almost all the time when he gambled. This may in fact be worse for him.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/7/7/75815/89579/715/547458

Cycloptichorn
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