Why did Obama stay in Rev. Wright's church?

Perhaps comparing the pre world war two adulation of Hitler by the german populace with the adulation of the citizens of the U.S. for Obama is proper. They were both great speakers. And the economy of Germany at that time and the U.S. now were similar. And accusing everyone who isn't for Obama of racism is getting a little thin. If that isn't playing the race card I don't know what is. Yes I know. Obama didn't use the accusation himself only his supporters who get their talking points from his organization. You people are sounding more and more like the conserative religious republicans in your attacks. It should be interisting. Should I vote for a warmonger big business shill or for someone I know wont be able to pass 10 percent of what he says he believes needs to be done. Its easy to make promises you know you wont be able to keep. I have been hearing what Obama has been promising the public from politicians for the last 55+ years at election time. Lots of luck with your new hero people. You will need it.

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Most of the young Germans are laughing a lot to see the funny bollywood commericial drama in USA.
A few Germans like the sales representative of Chatholic
(Ex Nazi kid) wish to admire the barbarism
I represent the views in my community( Köln)

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rabel22, a better comparison is Bushitler. Not only were his ancestors involved with Hitler and invested in his military industrial complex but Bushie has liberated Iraq in much the same way Hitler liberated Poland and Checkoslovakia. With a premptive war of acquisition and aggression. After Hitler the world declared such wars of aggression illegal. But Bushie pushed aside the Geneva Convention and "liberated" Iraq anyway. Obama stood against that war while others like Hillary and McCain gave Bushie authorization.

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Asherman wrote:

Obama's "Wright problems" haven't yet begun.

In the words of the famous Texan Buddy Holly:

Dream on!

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rabel22 wrote:

Perhaps comparing the pre world war two adulation of Hitler by the german populace with the adulation of the citizens of the U.S. for Obama is proper. They were both great speakers. And the economy of Germany at that time and the U.S. now were similar. And accusing everyone who isn't for Obama of racism is getting a little thin. If that isn't playing the race card I don't know what is. Yes I know. Obama didn't use the accusation himself only his supporters who get their talking points from his organization. You people are sounding more and more like the conserative religious republicans in your attacks. It should be interisting. Should I vote for a warmonger big business shill or for someone I know wont be able to pass 10 percent of what he says he believes needs to be done. Its easy to make promises you know you wont be able to keep. I have been hearing what Obama has been promising the public from politicians for the last 55+ years at election time. Lots of luck with your new hero people. You will need it.

I do see a strong difference between the two. Hitler was prepared to use any means at his disposal to effect whatever evil goals lurked in his strange brain and that included medical experimentation, genocide involving millions, torture, and premeditated, cold blooded murder. I do not in my wildest imagination think that Jeremiah Wright could ever order or condone anything even remotely like that. Hitler was evil. Jeremiah Wright is not.

But I do believe that Jeremiah Wright is an angry man who preaches racism and contempt of country to his congregation. He himself is not evil, but the net effect of that kind of preaching can and probably does have negative effect on the people who accept it as the Christian Gospel. It isn't.

The only similarity between Hitler and Wright are that both had real and genuine accomplishments to their credit as well as their controversial sides. And that was the point of my post.

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Where in my post does it say that I am an admirer of the bush family. They have always been money grubbing militarists.

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Here's some more info on other upcoming appearances and interviews with Jerimiah Wright.

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Jeremiah Wright to be interviewed by Bill Moyers

Written by J. Bennett Guess
April 19, 2008

In what will be his first interview since snippets of his preaching became a central issue in the U.S. presidential campaign, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. will speak publicly to veteran journalist and fellow UCC member Bill Moyers.

The interview will be broadcast on Friday evening, April 25, on Bill Moyers Journal, a PBS news series that airs nationally. Check local listings at www.pbs.org/moyers.

Wright retired in March after 36 years as senior pastor of the 8,000-member Trinity UCC in Chicago, where U.S. Sen. Barack Obama has been a member for more than 20 years. Trinity UCC is the largest congregation among the UCC's 5,700 churches.

Moyers, a member of Riverside Church (UCC/American Baptist) in New York City, is a critically-acclaimed public affairs journalist who is known for his thoughtful attention to the intersection of politics, religion and the media. Last June, Moyers and Obama were among the presenters at the UCC's 50th anniversary General Synod in Hartford, Conn.

Following his appearance on Bill Moyers Journal, Wright is scheduled to be the keynote speaker at the NAACP Detroit Branch on Sunday, April 27. He is also slated to speak on Monday, April 28, to a breakfast gathering at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., followed by a teach-in at Howard University School of Divinity and Shiloh Baptist Church, which also will host an ecumenical prayer service.

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the wright comments were stupid. on their own, they haven't hurt obama much.

the gop will sieze on it again later though.

i'd imagine that they'll have fun with barack's "association" with a member of the weathermen too.

forget about the characterization of kerry and gore as "most liberal" this and that.

when the gop has a full obama nomination to play with, they're gonna come at him as a "leftist radical". and america will listen.

hear me now, believe me later...

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DTOM wrote:

when the gop has a full obama nomination to play with, they're gonna come at him as a "leftist radical". and america will listen.

Yes, I'm sure they will but the american voting public is so sick and tired of the Bush madness they will welcome the change from psychopath republicanism to "leftist radical." It was the rightwing nuts (Robert Welch) that labeled president Eisenhower as a "communist sympathizer" that probably ensured JFKs election. Well that and "landslide Lyndon's" cemetery vote from Texas.

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It is rather odd to hear Dems still defending Wright's remarks when Obama himself has denounced them.

The question is not: 'were Wright's statements wrong? '

They clearly were and even Barack has said so.[/u]

The question is: 'why did it take him so long to say so?'

Why did he submit himself and his children to Wright's racism for 20 years, and only come to denounce him when a media firestorm threatened his presidential bid?

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dyslexia wrote:

DTOM wrote:
when the gop has a full obama nomination to play with, they're gonna come at him as a "leftist radical". and america will listen.

Yes, I'm sure they will but the american voting public is so sick and tired of the Bush madness they will welcome the change from psychopath republicanism to "leftist radical."

we can only hope.

yep, the public is sick of bush, but that doesn't mean that they are ready to embrace a "radical". i don't see obama as a radical, but they now have a foundation to build that propaganda on.

just thinking ahead. thas all...

didn't know that about ike. i'll have to read up on that.

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Assuming that Obama would be a far left ideologue--his voting record does suggest that could be the case--would you be really comfortable with that DTOM?

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I've read a few of Wright's comments in question; I think he had some valid points. It seems to me some were either hurt by the "truth," or are just out to put an "uppity nigger" in his place.

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foxfyre wrote:

Assuming that Obama would be a far left ideologue

Assuming that McCain already is a far right ideologue, I fear for my country.

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Foxfyre wrote:

Assuming that Obama would be a far left ideologue--his voting record does suggest that could be the case--would you be really comfortable with that DTOM?

hey foxy, hope yer doin' well...

mmm, i don't really consider obama to be all that far to the left. left yeah. but way far, uh-uh. but you're more conservative than i am, so i get how you could think that.

i disagree with some of his ideas, but more in detail than direction. which is why i'm still pullin' for hillary.

of the three, i just think she has a more realistic view of what the next president is gonna find on the desk in the oval office.

an i don't think it's gonna be pretty.

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dyslexia wrote:

foxfyre wrote:
Assuming that Obama would be a far left ideologue

Assuming that McCain already is a far right ideologue, I fear for my country.

yeah, i'd have to agree with ya there. i don't know what's happened to him, but any centrist ideas he had have gone bye-bye.

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DontTreadOnMe wrote:

dyslexia wrote:
foxfyre wrote:
Assuming that Obama would be a far left ideologue

Assuming that McCain already is a far right ideologue, I fear for my country.

yeah, i'd have to agree with ya there. i don't know what's happened to him, but any centrist ideas he had have gone bye-bye.

Painting both Obama and Clinton as far left pinko socialists is the only way the Republicans can keep the wing end of theirs from staying home and not voting for the less conservative McCain.

Fear mongering works well on their own wing folk too.

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Butrflynet wrote:

DontTreadOnMe wrote:
dyslexia wrote:
foxfyre wrote:
Assuming that Obama would be a far left ideologue

Assuming that McCain already is a far right ideologue, I fear for my country.

yeah, i'd have to agree with ya there. i don't know what's happened to him, but any centrist ideas he had have gone bye-bye.

Painting both Obama and Clinton as far left pinko socialists is the only way the Republicans can keep the wing end of theirs from staying home and not voting for the less conservative McCain.

Fear mongering works well on their own wing folk too.

i like that you get that both parties have extremist wings and moderate wings. not everybody does.

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DontTreadOnMe wrote:

Foxfyre wrote:
Assuming that Obama would be a far left ideologue--his voting record does suggest that could be the case--would you be really comfortable with that DTOM?

hey foxy, hope yer doin' well...

mmm, i don't really consider obama to be all that far to the left. left yeah. but way far, uh-uh. but you're more conservative than i am, so i get how you could think that.

i disagree with some of his ideas, but more in detail than direction. which is why i'm still pullin' for hillary.

of the three, i just think she has a more realistic view of what the next president is gonna find on the desk in the oval office.

an i don't think it's gonna be pretty.

Based on voting record, Hillary is quite a bit right of Obama, so I can understand why you would prefer her to either Obama or MicCain who of course is quite a bit right of Hillary though in my opinion he is quite a bit left of far right.

I do believe Obama's voting record will show him to be the most liberal member of the Senate overall on all but one or two issues.

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Foxfyre wrote:

...either Obama or MicCain who of course is quite a bit right of Hillary though in my opinion he is quite a bit left of far right.

foxy, m'love... it is way to early in the day to hit me with one like this.

jeez, lemme get another cup o' joe in me first... Shocked

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