Am I wrong?

engineer wrote:

... Reagan was also very slow to react to the growing AIDs situation considering it a concern only for homosexuals. I don't think you can say Reagan was completely clean.

Who was saying that he was completely clean? Certainly not I. teh topic and this discussion was about racism. What you're discussing broadens the discussion to Discrimination at large.

According to your source, on February 3, 1981, after Ronnie Ray-gun had been inaugurated, the prime interest rate was 19.5%. Thereafter, it dropped to 17% by April, and then rose to 20.5% by mid-July, 1981. According to your source, the prime rate remained in double digits until June, 1985, more than four years after your boy Ronnie took office. If you want to claim that Ronnie fixed any mess which you intend to blame on Carter, you're going to need to explain .....his entire first term.

Paul Volcker, a Democrat, was appointed Chairman of the Federal Reserve in August 1979 by President Jimmy Carter and reappointed in 1983 by President Ronald Reagan. Volcker's Fed is widely credited with ending the United States' stagflation crisis of the 1970s by limiting the growth of the money supply, abandoning the previous policy of targeting interest rates. Inflation, which peaked at 13.5% in 1981, was successfully lowered to 3.2% by 1983. The change in policy contributed to the significant recession the U.S. economy experienced in the early 1980s, which included the highest unemployment levels since the Great Depression.

However, Volcker's Fed also elicited the strongest political attacks and most wide-spread protests in the history of the Federal Reserve (unlike any protests experienced since 1922) due to the effects of the high interest rates on the construction and farming sectors, culminating in indebted farmers driving their tractors onto C Street and blockading the Eccles Building.

Once again, you apparently are completely incapable of seeing the inherent racism in your remarks. My ancestors were Irish. I am proud of my Irish heritage. I am happy to tell anyone about that. This does not alter that i consider that i am entitled to be treated with that same consideration that all the citizens of a republic have a right to claim, without reference to superficial descriptions.

I suspect that you are assuming that all white folks are the same, and that all black folks are different. You are making black people "the other" by definition. Which individuals do you claim "cloak themselves with all kinds of specialness?" Are you suggesting that this is descriptive of all people who are described as being black? Your comments reek of racist resentments.

It appears that Hawkeye is trying to describe modern tribal societies. We think we have evolved so much. But so many people have not thrown off their tribal instincts that helped them to survive through the many steps of evolution. Call it racism or call it tribal instincts, it's all the same.

BBB

So how do you claim that someone claiming a particular identity, and insisting upon impinges on your, or causes any problems for society? .

The third is that the personal identity which someone else adopts doesn't impinge upon you--it requires nothing of you, not even that you acknowledge it.

Then what's your beef? Why did you bring it up? Do you have a lot of black people coming up to you to demand that you acknowledge their perceived identities? . .

Ever heard of paranoid schizophrenia? To your answer that you have a lot of black people coming up to you to demand that you acknowledge their perceived identities, i say bullshit--don't piss down my leg and tell me it's rainin' . . .

You greatly overrate your importance if you think i have any personal animus toward you. I simply find you amusing and disgusting because of your warped partisan views, whether the subject is science, or morality or politics. You continue to ignore that three Presidents--Ford, Carter and Reagan--inherited the fiscal disaster of the Nixon administration. You ignore that inflation and interest rates ran out of control after the price controls of the Nixon administration were lifted, at the same time that the Arab oil embargo subsequent to the Yom Kippur War was imposed. You continue to avoid the issue of the comments by Gerald Ford which i posted here, and for which i linked the source. You ignore the NYT article which i posted which gives, in language simple enough that even you can understand, an explanation of exactly what Nixon did to make himself look good for the 1972 election, and the consequences of it. You continue to ignore that the prime rate is directly conditioned on the interest rates of the Fed, and that from 1979 to 1987, the Fed was chaired by Paul Volcker, a Carter appointee whose appointment was renewed by Ray-gun.

This is from the Wikipedia article on Volcker:

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Paul Volcker, a Democrat, was appointed Chairman of the Federal Reserve in August 1979 by President Jimmy Carter and reappointed in 1983 by President Ronald Reagan. Volcker's Fed is widely credited with ending the United States' stagflation crisis of the 1970s by limiting the growth of the money supply, abandoning the previous policy of targeting interest rates. Inflation, which peaked at 13.5% in 1981, was successfully lowered to 3.2% by 1983. The change in policy contributed to the significant recession the U.S. economy experienced in the early 1980s, which included the highest unemployment levels since the Great Depression.

However, Volcker's Fed also elicited the strongest political attacks and most wide-spread protests in the history of the Federal Reserve (unlike any protests experienced since 1922) due to the effects of the high interest rates on the construction and farming sectors, culminating in indebted farmers driving their tractors onto C Street and blockading the Eccles Building.

High interest rates were a deliberate policy of the Federal Reserve to end the run-away inflation which began with the end of Nixon's price controls and the oil embargo. Reagan renewed Volcker's tenure at the Fed because the policy was obviously working. This also contradicts your bullshit about the unemployment rate, which peaked in Reagan's administration, not Carter's. Your problem is that you are as wedded to your narrow, partisan political attitude as you are to your goofy, biblically-inspired world view.

Moron.

Setanta wrote: "And when you lie awake at any time in the long watches of the night, regale yourself with the thought that when you go back far enough in human history, we're all descended from Africans."

And our African ancestors were descendents of evolved apes. Some of us got out of the trees; some didn't.

BBB

BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:

Setanta wrote: "And when you lie awake at any time in the long watches of the night, regale yourself with the thought that when you go back far enough in human history, we're all descended from Africans."

And our African ancestors were descendents of evolved apes. Some of us got out of the trees; some didn't.
BBB

You mind expanding on that thought for clarification?

ummm... no. We didn't evolve from apes.

Apes and humans evolved at the same time from a common ancestor around 7-8 million years ago. It's a split in the tree.