Am I wrong?

dyslexia

"I seem to be reading an undercurrent
of submerged racism across the american right
as well as A2K.
Could this be true or am I paranoid?
You are projecting the view that A2K is made in USA.
A2K is global and universal and tolerant to some extent.
I don't think that you are a paranoid.

As if racism is somehow particular to America, and we dont have lots of it in Europe too. Nothing inherently "tolerant" about Dutch, Germans, Hungarians or Indians either.

Racism can be a subtle thing, showing but the tip, like an iceberg. I believe the extent of it may be gaged more accurately than ever before as this election unfolds. Will support for the black candidate suddenly run upon the iceberg and founder, or will enough Americans be fair all the way to the voting booth? I don't pretend to know the answer.

So being fair is voting for the black candidate to show Im not prejuiced even though I believe that he isn't ready for the big time and don't trust the fact that he came from the Chicago politicel machine.

No. He meant that he hopes those who seem to weigh their opinions fairly when they are in public as regards race will continue to be fair when they are alone and no one can see what they do.
This is not a difficult concept, and it is puzzling why some seem to insist on twisting it to mean something entirely else.

well said, Snood

Everyone is racist. Everyone.

We perceive races differently. It's what we do with our feelings and prejudices that counts.

we will discern race, we need not care about race or act upon race, that part is a choice.

Snood got it right. I was addressing only the issue of race, not other concerns. I have supported Clinton through the primaries. If Obama gets nominated, he then has my vote, since I have vowed that I will not vote Republican, no matter what.

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Obviously. What's funny is watching people pretending they are not because it's not posh being racist. In fact it is low and common.

I don't think we can help being racists, sexists, or educatedists. When we meet people we see and are drawn to likenesses and are leery of differences. That's just the way we are for now.

We've been taught survival of the fittist, competition, and to be the best means being number one. We wave foam hands with an extended finger at ball games to associate ourselves with who we percieve to be #1, for godsake. How silly is that? If we can't be the best we just associate ourselves with someone successful to boost our own stature. We've been taught to earn more money so we can be "above" others.

We haven't been taught that it is possible for everyone to survive (oooh, can't have Socialism!) We haven't been taught that our personal best is all that is required. We haven't been taught to be number one in our own eyes and not worry what others think. We haven't been taught to look at the inside of others rather than the fancy car or house.

"We" of course, refers to the world as a whole. Until we change our thinking, there will be racism, sexism and educatedism. Until we see people as people this is what we have to look forward to for generations to come.

BTW, I include in this vision of a better world the suggestion that not only those that see external humanity change their perception, but that those that percieve wrongs of the past as holding them back also start dealing with the here and now. It would make a much better world for everyone, no?

The pull to stick to our own kind might be more than learned, it might be coded in genetics.

Might be, but then there would be a hell of a lot of mixed raced people and marriages with faulty genes.

No because the code would say only "stick to people like you", what you think defines you is a choice, but since we choose race.....

Evolution molds genes, and it is easy to see how the intuition to stick to your own kind would be useful through all of those thousands of years when humans existed (well, we still do) in warring clans. You gotta figure at this point it is encoded.

This is a classic blind racist point of view. How about we treat all men (and women) as men (and women) without regard to whether or not they are notionally black or white? This has to be one of the most idiotic statements on race which i've seen posted here.

So what you are saying is that once a man has adopted the identity of a black man, with all of the history and customs that come with that identity, we are then to pretend like he never did? Don't you figure that is going to be perceived as disrespect?? I don't follow your logic.

My point was that these individuals cloak themselves with all kinds of specialness, and then when the mood strikes them they say " I am just like you" No, if you are just like be then don't keep claiming to be special. You'll have to point out the idiocy of my statement. Don't see it as being racist either. I am the one claiming that we put way too much concern onto race.

Re: Am I wrong?


Odd that you only focus on the political right.

Do you see no racism in the remarks of Jeremiah Wright and James Cone?

BBB
It appears that Hawkeye is trying to describe modern tribal societies. We think we have evolved so much. But so many people have not thrown off their tribal instincts that helped them to survive through the many steps of evolution. Call it racism or call it tribal instincts, it's all the same.

BBB

How do you know Ronald Reagan was not a racist. Or McCain? What did either do to convince you?

Question: At Woodstock, Joan Baez and Jeffrey Shurtleff sang "Drug Store Truck Driving Man." To whom did they dedicate it?
Answer: "The Governor of California-- Ronald Ray Guns."