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What will you like most about the McCain Presidency?

 
 
Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Sat 29 Mar, 2008 09:55 am
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Gargamel
 
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Reply Sat 29 Mar, 2008 11:51 am
So, has Flomax endorsed McCain yet?

FYI: your going problem may be a growing problem.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Sun 30 Mar, 2008 09:53 am
McCain, Ignorant on the Issueshttp://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii19/SLdkos/mcsame.jpg
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Sun 30 Mar, 2008 01:50 pm
I am dead against VIOLENCE.
Unfortunately the majority of the humanbeing who had shed tears and uphold the USA's dream after 11th september are not prepared to shed any more tears.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 30 Mar, 2008 04:14 pm
McG

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"It's a rank falsehood for the DNC to accuse McCain of wanting to wage 'endless war' based on his support for a presence in Iraq something like the U.S. role in South Korea."


Annenburg is correct to note the inaccuracies of this accusation against McCain. But where Annenburg misses the mark here is in accepting Korea and Iraq as comparable cases as regards risks to American troops. McCain might say, for example, "I'm all for dropping a tactical nuke on China so long as nothing bad happens to us as a consequence."
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sun 30 Mar, 2008 07:20 pm
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McCain might say, for example, "I'm all for dropping a tactical nuke on China so long as nothing bad happens to us as a consequence."


Your absolutely correct, he might say that.
But then again, so might Hillary or Obama.

You can speculate that somebody MIGHT say anything, but thats all it is is speculation.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 30 Mar, 2008 08:15 pm
mysteryman wrote:
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McCain might say, for example, "I'm all for dropping a tactical nuke on China so long as nothing bad happens to us as a consequence."


Your absolutely correct, he might say that.
But then again, so might Hillary or Obama.

You can speculate that somebody MIGHT say anything, but thats all it is is speculation.


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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 30 Mar, 2008 08:21 pm
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The Gramm connection
Aha: the Politico notices that Phil Gramm, McCain's economic guru, can also be viewed as the father of the financial crisis.
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The general co-chairman of John McCain's presidential campaign, former Sen. Phil Gramm (R-Texas), led the charge in 1999 to repeal a Depression-era banking regulation law that Democrat Barack Obama claimed on Thursday contributed significantly to today's economic turmoil.
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According to federal lobbying disclosure records, Gramm lobbied Congress, the Federal Reserve and Treasury Department about banking and mortgage issues in 2005 and 2006.
During those years, the mortgage industry pressed Congress to roll back strong state rules that sought to stem the rise of predatory tactics used by lenders and brokers to place homeowners in high-cost mortgages

Where have I seen that before? Ah:
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His chief economic adviser is former Senator Phil Gramm, a fervent advocate of financial deregulation. In fact, I'd argue that aside from Alan Greenspan, nobody did as much as Mr. Gramm to make this crisis possible.

Seriously, the Gramm connection tells you all you need to know about where a McCain administration would stand on financial issues: squarely against any significant reform.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/

This presents a serious problem. McCain is settling in on the far right "business should never be restricted or regulated" ideology.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 30 Mar, 2008 09:27 pm
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His most famous pander came in 2000, when, after earlier denouncing the Confederate flag as a "symbol of racism," he embraced it as "a symbol of heritage." To his credit, Mr. McCain later acknowledged, "I feared that if I answered honestly I could not win the South Carolina primary, so I chose to compromise my principles."
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/17/opinion/17kristof.html?_r=1&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print

Which poses the question, or rather a large series of questions, as to what he's saying now that isn't honest or principled, merely said for electoral purposes?


But here's the passage I really love. Not from McCain but from WSJ's Strassel. How can anyone read these people and not want to just throw a pie in their face?
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The amazing thing about McCain is that his reputation for principled consistency has remained completely intact. It is his strongest cudgel against opponents. Wall Street Journal editorial page columnist Kimberley Strassel recently gushed that McCain is "no flip-flopper." "Like or dislike Mr. McCain's views," she added, "Americans know what they are." Then, in the very next paragraph, she wrote that McCain will now be "as pure as the New Hampshire snow on the two core issues of taxes and judges" and that "[t]he key difference between Mr. McCain in 2000 and 2008 is that he...appears intent on making amends" to conservatives.
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=4a65fb2f-7752-493f-a8d3-7fa4aa5e55d0
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 31 Mar, 2008 07:28 am
I think, Blatham, that you confuse McCain the candidate for McCain the President.

McCain has to win the office first. That means a few small white lies and some bending from one side to another like a tree. The wind may blow it from side to side, but it has strong roots that always return it to it's true position. I doubt there is a strong enough political wind to blow McCain over.
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Mon 31 Mar, 2008 09:18 am
McGentrix wrote:
I think, Blatham, that you confuse McCain the candidate for McCain the President.

McCain has to win the office first. That means a few small white lies and some bending from one side to another like a tree. The wind may blow it from side to side, but it has strong roots that always return it to it's true position. I doubt there is a strong enough political wind to blow McCain over.


Ah yes Grasshopper .... spoken with equivocation as a true Republican.
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blatham
 
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Reply Mon 31 Mar, 2008 10:06 am
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I doubt there is a strong enough political wind to blow McCain over.


Inner ear problems look likely to suffice.
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blatham
 
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Reply Mon 31 Mar, 2008 10:07 am
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At the very core of the media's reverence for John McCain is the blatant, tired myth that he's a "centrist."

Like Lieberman, McCain may deviate from right-wing dogma on discrete issues when it comes to domestic policy questions. But on questions of foreign policy, national security and war, McCain -- and Lieberman -- are as extremist as it gets in the mainstream political spectrum. On those obviously central issues, there simply is nobody and nothing to the Right of McCain.

McCain marks the absolute outer ideological boundary of American militarism, imperialism and war-making, particularly (though not only) in the Middle East. That's why he's long been enthusiastically supported by the country's most crazed warmongers -- such as Bill Kristol, James Woolsey, most of the PNAC crowd, and Lieberman. In no meaningful sense are such individuals "centrists," and neither is McCain.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/03/31/mccain/index.html
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Mon 31 Mar, 2008 01:52 pm
link Anyone here surprised?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 31 Mar, 2008 02:06 pm


Unacceptable as a source.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Mon 31 Mar, 2008 02:32 pm
Gelisgesti wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
I think, Blatham, that you confuse McCain the candidate for McCain the President.

McCain has to win the office first. That means a few small white lies and some bending from one side to another like a tree. The wind may blow it from side to side, but it has strong roots that always return it to it's true position. I doubt there is a strong enough political wind to blow McCain over.


Ah yes Grasshopper .... spoken with equivocation as a true Republican.


So are you saying that everything that both Hillary and Obama have said during this campaign has been the absolute truth?
That neither one of them have told voters exactly want they want to hear, even if it means contradicting something they said to an earlier group?

If you believe that, you are rather naive.
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 31 Mar, 2008 08:14 pm
McGentrix wrote:


Why would the truth be unacceptable to an avowed centrist?
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Mon 31 Mar, 2008 11:09 pm
mysteryman wrote:
Gelisgesti wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
I think, Blatham, that you confuse McCain the candidate for McCain the President.

McCain has to win the office first. That means a few small white lies and some bending from one side to another like a tree. The wind may blow it from side to side, but it has strong roots that always return it to it's true position. I doubt there is a strong enough political wind to blow McCain over.


Ah yes Grasshopper .... spoken with equivocation as a true Republican.


So are you saying that everything that both Hillary and Obama have said during this campaign has been the absolute truth?
That neither one of them have told voters exactly want they want to hear, even if it means contradicting something they said to an earlier group?

If you believe that, you are rather naive.


Another F***ing strawman argument!
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Tue 1 Apr, 2008 11:31 am
> What will you like most about the McCain Presidency?

Having the stinking dems out in the cold feeling sorry for themselves for at least another four years will do for starters.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Tue 1 Apr, 2008 12:01 pm
gungasnake wrote:
> What will you like most about the McCain Presidency?

Having the stinking dems out in the cold feeling sorry for themselves for at least another four years will do for starters.



This mirrors the thinking of many of those who put Bush into office. Their thinking was that we will show those intelligent bastards by putting a dickhead like us into office.
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