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What will you like most about the McCain Presidency?

 
 
real life
 
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Reply Sat 5 Apr, 2008 12:18 am
mysteryman wrote:
Advocate wrote:
Real, you need to bone up on history.

Just before Gulf War I, when Saddam was our ally, our ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie, told Saddam that we were not concerned with ME borders. State announced the same thing. We contemplated that Saddam would merely seize some oil fields in Northern Kuwait. Saddam took our advice to mean that we would not be concerned should he take over Kuwait.


April Glaspie has denied that she evr said that.
I believe her before I believe Saddam Hussein.
The fact that you believe Hussein says something about you.



mysteryman wrote:
Advocate wrote:
Regarding Gulf War II, it was our naked grab for Iraq's oil.


Then why hasnt any of that oil made its way to the US?
Why has Iraq awarded oil contracts to European and Russian companies, but almost none to US companies?

If we are getting all of Iraqs oil, WHERE IS IT?


What MM said. On both.

'Gulf War II' as Advocate puts it, actually still IS Gulf War I.

The removal of Saddam was a direct result of Saddam's repeated and calculated violations of the sanctions that accompanied the cessation of hostilities during the early part of the war.

The Gulf War had a cease fire, but not an end. Hostilities resumed because of Saddam.

Liberals cannot be honest about this, because they lose their ability to play politics with the war.

Saddam lied, people died.

They don't dare say it.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Sat 5 Apr, 2008 09:27 am
Regarding Glaspie's conversation with Saddam, this is the truth of the matter.


James Akins, the U.S. Ambassador to Saudi Arabia at the time, offered a somewhat different perspective in a 2000 interview on PBS:

[Glaspie] took the straight American line, which is, we do not take positions on border disputes between friendly countries. That's standard. That's what you always say. You would not have said, "Mr. President, if you really are considering invading Kuwait, by God, we'll bring down the wrath of God on your palaces and on your country, and you'll all be destroyed." She wouldn't say that, nor would I. Neither would any diplomat.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 5 Apr, 2008 11:18 am
Quote:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/04/former-romney-backer-warns-mccain-not-to-pick-him-for-vp/
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blatham
 
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Reply Sat 5 Apr, 2008 12:16 pm
pssst... as someone I was reading just pointed out, McCain was 47 when he voted against the MLK holiday. Clearly, a mistake of youth.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Sun 6 Apr, 2008 08:20 am
A number of Reps are talking up Condi Rice as a running mate for McCain. Wasn't she the worst national security advisor in history?

On another matter, Charlton Heston just died. This raises the question whether they will they pry his gun from his cold, dead, fingers?
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 6 Apr, 2008 10:39 am
John Mcain: OK with me if the US is in Iraq for a million years.

See McCain and Iraq, David Corn/Matthew Continetti
http://video.on.nytimes.com/?fr_story=5287ffba0b8d8092a8ccbc48875453a66cfed313&WT.mc_id=VI-D-I-NYT-MOD-MOD-M039-ROS-0408-HDR&WT.mc_ev=click&mkt=VI-D-I-NYT-MOD-MOD-M039-ROS-0408-HDR
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Sun 6 Apr, 2008 06:48 pm
My view is this.
USA has a faulty system with 2 party system without any check and balance( Cheque and bank balance) cola and cola lite.
Among the three couch potatoes I prefer OBAMA( not a rational choice but practical one)
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 6 Apr, 2008 10:12 pm
The final paragraph of a dead on assessment of what a terrible mess the Republicans have made of everything over the last number of years. The election of yet another idiot is hardly something that the US or the world can afford.

Quote:


Great American Hypocrites: McCain's Old Packaging

Glenn Greenwald

...

John McCain is a natural candidate, right at home in a political party led by Great American Hypocrites and with a press corps that reveres great American hypocrisy. The press adores him for the same vapid, personality-based reasons it adored George W. Bush. And McCain's media-built and media-sustained reputation as a trans-partisan man of principle and conviction is every bit as genuine as it was in the case of Bush. If the GOP/media machinery manages to elect him, he will undoubtedly produce extremely similar -- if not worse --results.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/glenn-greenwald/great-american-hypocrites_b_95317.html

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Advocate
 
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Reply Mon 7 Apr, 2008 11:32 am
I think I would like his wife, who, although a bit Barbie looking, is rather attractive.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 7 Apr, 2008 12:20 pm
Just checking in to see if anybody has been able to wrestle the thread back on topic in spite of the usual trolls and detractors who try to sidetrack everything.

Nope. Sad
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 7 Apr, 2008 12:24 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
Just checking in to see if anybody has been able to wrestle the thread back on topic in spite of the usual trolls and detractors who try to sidetrack everything.

Nope. Sad


You do have a deep deep aversion to the truth, don't you, Foxy. Given the sordid mess created by your crew, now all you want is for a group of like dead-minded individuals to stroke your deflated conservative ego.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 7 Apr, 2008 12:32 pm
http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r206/Bear-45-70/Emoticons/th_trollrepellent.jpg
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 7 Apr, 2008 12:52 pm
What will you like most about the McCain Presidency? had to have been major tongue in cheek from McG because even he isn't that dumb.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 7 Apr, 2008 02:21 pm
What will I like best?

I'm already digging the constant advertising for a classic Canadian product

http://www.abcfoods.mu/images/Mc%20Cain%20Logo.jpg

~~~

From my perspective, he's neither better nor worse than the other options currently available to U.S. voters, but I dig the logo.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Mon 7 Apr, 2008 02:27 pm
An old article, but interesting anyway...

http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/10/news/economy/tully_healthcare.fortune/

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Who has the best plan? Both have huge flaws, but on balance McCain's is better.

McCain's main pillar is the elimination of a tax break that employees receive if their employer provides their health care. That may not sound like a shocker, but it is. The exclusion dates from World War II, when the federal government imposed controls on wages, but allowed companies to compete for workers by offering tax-free health benefits in lieu of pay. The law is largely responsible for the nightmarish patchwork of corporate-provided medical plans we enjoy so much today. Employees and their unions demanded richer and richer packages, and employers complied, since they could buy far more benefits for their employees than workers could buy with after-tax dollars on their own. Americans have paid a steep price, however, by sacrificing their raises as corporate insurance bills exploded, never more so than now.



From reading the entire article, I have to say the plan makes sense to me.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Tue 8 Apr, 2008 08:45 am
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revel
 
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Reply Tue 8 Apr, 2008 03:10 pm
I am not accusing McCain about being confused on who the Shiites are; because the following is just hard to make out what he means, I mean it seems a bit bizarre. For someone who is supposed to be so knowledgeable about foreign matters; he seems clueless.

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During today's hearing with Gen. David Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) questioned Petraeus on what he called "the major threat" of al Qaeda in Iraq. Coming on the heels of his recent confusion over the nature of al Qaeda, McCain today seemed to refer to al Qaeda as a "sect of Shi'ites":

MCCAIN: Do you still view al Qaeda in Iraq as a major threat?

PETRAEUS: It is still a major threat, though it is certainly not as major a threat as it was say 15 months ago.

MCCAIN: Certainly not an obscure sect of the Shi'ites overall?

PETREAUS: No.

MCCAIN: Or Sunnis or anybody else.


source
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Tue 8 Apr, 2008 03:37 pm
What will you like most about the McCain Presidency?
is the title of this thread.
I ask the author of this thread to put his clear, crisp sharp assessment about the percentage of the patriotic flag-waving brave citizens who make use of their DEMOCRATIC rights to legitimize the successor of occupant in WHITE HOUSE?
My prediction is not more than 54 percent of this lovely people will dare to cross the street to vote..
Among the 54 percent( according to my assessment) the future RESIDENT will get 39 PERCENT
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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 8 Apr, 2008 10:29 pm
Quote:


Book: McCain temper boiled over in '92 tirade, called wife a '****'

Nick Juliano

Published: Monday April 7, 2008

Three reporters from Arizona, on the condition of anonymity, also let me in on another incident involving McCain's intemperateness. In his 1992 Senate bid, McCain was joined on the campaign trail by his wife, Cindy, as well as campaign aide Doug Cole and consultant Wes Gullett. At one point, Cindy playfully twirled McCain's hair and said, "You're getting a little thin up there." McCain's face reddened, and he responded, "At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you ****." McCain's excuse was that it had been a long day. If elected president of the United States, McCain would have many long days.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_temper_boiled_over_in_92_0407.html


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revel
 
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Reply Wed 9 Apr, 2008 06:24 am
Contrast McCain's questions with Petraeus with Obama's.

Text of Obama's comments
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