The Wright thing - how much effect will it have on Obama 08?

Worse - here you are, just having fun posting personal putdowns of Obama voters every other day for the past two or three months, and then OMG - they criticise you for it! They object!

Ha - so much for Obama being a "uniter"! I mean, obviously that's his fault, then, that you then get upset to-and-fros. If he were really a uniter, his supporters would just gladly chuckle at being called smug, mindless bores every day.

Just goes to show that Obama supporters have no sense of humor. They should calm down already, take it easy. I mean, everyone knows that if you post on every other thread that they are smug, arrogant, unthinking, elitist, mindless bots, you're just, you know, fooling around a bit, having fun. Only a witless bore would get upset at that.

Gak.

Regarding the alleged whipping of McCain by Obama. From speaking to most of my friends and aquaintances who are lifelong democrats the consensus is that they have no other option but to vote McCain. I predict that the republican machine will show Obama up as a blowhard that has no real accomplishments in his paper thin resume.

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

I'm no republican or republican fan but i do find it interesting that this campaign has divided the electorate into two groups... at the very least around here anyway.. those who support Obama unconditionally...

Still having fun with that straw man Bear?

I know, I know - every single time some individual Obama supporter objects, you reply "oh, not you, I'm not talking about you". It's all those other Obama supporters you're talking about. That nameless crowd of smug, arrogant Obamabots who support him un-con-di-tion-nally dominating this forum, which doesnt actually include, well, most of the Obama sympathisers I can think of. It's, you know, Roxxanne and Cyclo and.. eh.. eh.. eh.. well, all THOSE Obamaites!

I know, I know - for you, it's just a game you play, you said so yourself. But boy is it tired.

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

I'm no republican or republican fan but i do find it interesting that this campaign has divided the electorate into two groups... at the very least around here anyway.. those who support Obama unconditionally...

Still having fun with that straw man Bear?

I know, I know - every single time some individual Obama supporter objects, you reply "oh, not you, I'm not talking about you". It's all those other Obama supporters you're talking about. That nameless crowd of smug, arrogant Obamabots who support him un-con-di-tion-nally dominating this forum, which doesnt actually include, well, most of the Obama sympathisers I can think of. It's, you know, Roxxanne and Cyclo and.. eh.. eh.. eh.. well, all THOSE Obamaites!

I know, I know - for you, it's just a game you play, you said so yourself. But boy is it tired.

au1929 wrote:

Regarding the alleged whipping of McCain by Obama. From speaking to most of my friends and aquaintances who are lifelong democrats the consensus is that they have no other option but to vote McCain. I predict that the republican machine will show Obama up as a blowhard that has no real accomplishments in his paper thin resume.

I hope your prediction comes true ... in which case Cyclops will be served a great big steaming plate of crow.

Ticomaya wrote:

au1929 wrote:

Regarding the alleged whipping of McCain by Obama. From speaking to most of my friends and aquaintances who are lifelong democrats the consensus is that they have no other option but to vote McCain. I predict that the republican machine will show Obama up as a blowhard that has no real accomplishments in his paper thin resume.

I hope your prediction comes true ... in which case Cyclops will be served a great big steaming plate of crow.

Wishful thinkng is all you have. You don't think McCain will beat Obama, do you?

I'm having a wonderful time with you whiners...

Worse - here you are, just having fun posting personal putdowns of Obama voters every other day for the past two or three months, and then OMG - they criticise you for it! They object!

Just goes to show that Obama supporters have no sense of humor. They should calm down already, take it easy. I mean, everyone knows that if you post on every other thread that they are smug, arrogant, unthinking, elitist, mindless bots, you're just, you know, fooling around a bit, having fun. Only a witless bore would get upset at that.

how is that a straw man?

BS, BS, BS. I'm so tired of all this f*cking BS in this campaign. Why cant people just stop playing these freaking games and behave like grown-ups again?

Except that I, as a loyal Democrat and as someone who has always liked Hillary, will ENTHUSIASTICALLY support Senator Clinton if she somehow wins the pledged delegate count. Even if she steals the nomination, I will still vote for her.

If McCain vs. Obama, 28% of Clinton Backers Go for McCain
If McCain vs. Clinton, 19% of Obama backers go for McCain

PRINCETON, NJ -- A sizable proportion of Democrats would vote for John McCain next November if he is matched against the candidate they do not support for the Democratic nomination. This is particularly true for Hillary Clinton supporters, more than a quarter of whom currently say they would vote for McCain if Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee...................

As would be expected, almost all Democratic voters who say they support Obama for their party's nomination also say they would vote for him in a general election matchup against McCain. But only 59% of Democratic voters who support Clinton say they would vote for Obama against McCain, while 28% say they would vote for the Republican McCain. This suggests that some Clinton supporters are so strongly opposed to Obama (or so loyal to Clinton) that they would go so far as to vote for the "other" party's candidate next November if Obama is the Democratic nominee.

The results follow the same pattern, but not to quite the same extent, when the relationship between Democratic support and a general election matchup between Clinton and McCain is examined.

Here again, as expected, almost all of those who support Clinton for the Democratic Party's nomination say they would vote for her against McCain. Seventy-two percent of those who support Obama for the party's nomination would vote for Clinton against McCain, while 19% would desert and vote for the Republican........................

nimh wrote:

BS, BS, BS. I'm so tired of all this f*cking BS in this campaign. Why cant people just stop playing these freaking games and behave like grown-ups again?

Are you going to be okay, nimh?

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

I'm having a wonderful time with you whiners...

Yeah. That was exactly the response I was sarcastically predicting:

Quote:

Worse - here you are, just having fun posting personal putdowns of Obama voters every other day for the past two or three months, and then OMG - they criticise you for it! They object!

Just goes to show that Obama supporters have no sense of humor. They should calm down already, take it easy. I mean, everyone knows that if you post on every other thread that they are smug, arrogant, unthinking, elitist, mindless bots, you're just, you know, fooling around a bit, having fun. Only a witless bore would get upset at that.

Damn man, did you really wanna live up to a parody like that?

Well, at least you put it in fewer words.

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

how is that a straw man?

The BS you keep repeating about how voters and posters here have been divided into two groups; and those who are on Obama's side are just people who will "support Obama unconditionally".

There is, of course, nothing "unconditional" about the support for Obama among his sympathisers "around here" - check me, check Soz, check Freeduck, check revel, check Snood, check JPB, check.. oh almost every halfway articulate Obama supporter on A2K I can think of.

And of course, whenever one of 'em objects to your characterisations of mindless Obamabots, you do admit that, of course, "I didnt mean you"... But it doesnt stop you from trotting out the old meme next time again.

So who are you talking about, then, when you say it's true "around here" too? Even Cyclo has, on request, repeatedly specified the things he disagrees with Obama on. So, Roxxxanne, then? Teeny? They represent Obama supporters?

It's BS. And like you said, you see other people as playing their games, so this is yours. A game. So if any of us starts objecting after the 10th time you do it, we're just whiners. Oh, and we're showing how Obama is not in fact a unifier, of course. Because if somebody finally takes offense the xth time you needle a whole group collectively, that just shows that Obama is dividing people.

BS, BS, BS. I'm so tired of all this f*cking BS in this campaign. Why cant people just stop playing these freaking games and behave like grown-ups

The entire Obama campaign as represented here, in the media, on the streets has a tinge of "more than", "better than", "smarter than"., "more enlightened than", "more educated than".

some are outright dicks about it... like some you mentioned....some take the passive aggressive approach like obama himself, a few are reasonable but still will not tolerate deviance from the fact that Obama is the medicine to cure this ailing country and that's that and if you don't agree you are somehow "less than".

In the bush years to the far right there was the elitism of patriotism and if you aren't with me you're against me. If you don't support my policies and beliefs you don't love America and you are "less than".

Now we approach what many think will be the Obama years and it's intellectual, moral high ground years, and you're either with it or against it. If you don't buy into the "audacity of hope" and follow the policies of the "educated and enlightened class" you don't love America and you are "less than".

well f*ck that old buddy, I have the audacity of cynicism and i don't believe in your candidate... I've listened to him and it all sounds wonderful... BUT I DON'T BELIEVE OR TRUST IT!!!!!!!!!


so as for my BS game just remember this... the more blown up a balloon is the easier it it to pop..

nimh wrote:

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

I'm no republican or republican fan but i do find it interesting that this campaign has divided the electorate into two groups... at the very least around here anyway.. those who support Obama unconditionally...

Still having fun with that straw man Bear?

I know, I know - every single time some individual Obama supporter objects, you reply "oh, not you, I'm not talking about you". It's all those other Obama supporters you're talking about. That nameless crowd of smug, arrogant Obamabots who support him un-con-di-tion-nally dominating this forum, which doesnt actually include, well, most of the Obama sympathisers I can think of. It's, you know, Roxxanne and Cyclo and.. eh.. eh.. eh.. well, all THOSE Obamaites!

I know, I know - for you, it's just a game you play, you said so yourself. But boy is it tired.

Except that I, as a loyal Democrat and as someone who has always liked Hillary, will ENTHUSIASTICALLY support Senator Clinton if she somehow wins the pledged delegate count. Even if she steals the nomination, I will still vote for her.

In the bush years to the far right there was the elitism of patriotism and if you aren't with me you're against me. If you don't support my policies and beliefs you don't love America and you are "less than".

Now we approach what many think will be the Obama years and it's intellectual, moral high ground years, and you're either with it or against it. If you don't buy into the "audacity of hope" and follow the policies of the "educated and enlightened class" you don't love America and you are "less than".

freeduck..... bullshit. I don't think I'm superior.... I just know I'm not inferior... and my self esteem is not tied up in character identity. Believe me I don't think all Obama supporters are educated elitists... but I think a great many of them have decided to latch on to and perpetuate that image for reasons best known to them.

if obama wins you folks can be smug about it and maintain the moral high ground.... if he loses you will say it's because of bigotry and racism, make it clear you're above such things... and maintain your smugness and your moral high ground.

Your smugness and your moral high ground.... well.. any major league ball player would be thrilled to finish the season batting .500... so this is a good situation for y'all.

Have I told you yet today that you guys are hilarious? I really appreciate it....

Roxxxanne wrote:

nimh wrote:

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

I'm no republican or republican fan but i do find it interesting that this campaign has divided the electorate into two groups... at the very least around here anyway.. those who support Obama unconditionally...

Still having fun with that straw man Bear?

I know, I know - every single time some individual Obama supporter objects, you reply "oh, not you, I'm not talking about you". It's all those other Obama supporters you're talking about. That nameless crowd of smug, arrogant Obamabots who support him un-con-di-tion-nally dominating this forum, which doesnt actually include, well, most of the Obama sympathisers I can think of. It's, you know, Roxxanne and Cyclo and.. eh.. eh.. eh.. well, all THOSE Obamaites!

I know, I know - for you, it's just a game you play, you said so yourself. But boy is it tired.

Except that I, as a loyal Democrat and as someone who has always liked Hillary, will ENTHUSIASTICALLY support Senator Clinton if she somehow wins the pledged delegate count. Even if she steals the nomination, I will still vote for her.

you call her a hag. a finished up old witch, you talk about her like she's **** on a stick and then, just to show how enlightened and reasonable you actually are, you let us know you have always liked her and will enthusiastically support her should she get the nomination.

Hilarity abounds.