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Michele Obama's Big Mouth

 
 
Miller
 
Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 07:38 pm
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 08:27 pm
Hillary finally got a clue and put Bill on a leash, Barack needs to do the same with his wife. He needs demonstrate that he can control his wife if he wants to have the job of controlling a national administration. Michelle seriously needs to wise up. Her job is to be supportive and help her husband can get elected and do good work, what she thinks about anything is irrelevant, and being mouthy makes her husband look bad.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 08:35 pm
Oh please. While Bill was campaigning for president, Hillary had a far
bigger mouth than Michelle. Hillary put her foot into it numerous times -
still does, come to think of....
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Chai
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 08:39 pm
Obama should tell his wife she's gaining weight.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 08:40 pm
CalamityJane wrote:
Oh please. While Bill was campaigning for president, Hillary had a far
bigger mouth than Michelle. Hillary put her foot into it numerous times -
still does, come to think of....


You forget that Hillary went to the name Hillary Clinton from HRC because she got Bill into trouble with her mouth, and for awhile we had cookie baking Hillary as she tried to atone for her mistake. Michelle seems unwilling to consider that she is wrong, which of course she is. Not good for Barack.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 09:11 pm
You got it all wrong. Hillary objected to the "cookie baking housewives"
as she was a professional woman not interested in household chores.
A true feminist - until the day her husband had NO sexual relations with
that (Monica) woman. Then she stood by him like a docile wife accepting
all that BS coming from him.
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 09:14 pm
bookmark...
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maporsche
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 09:15 pm
CalamityJane wrote:
A true feminist - until the day her husband had NO sexual relations with that (Monica) woman. Then she stood by him like a docile wife accepting all that BS coming from him.


So, forgiving someone for making a mistake is somehow anti-feminist?
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 09:18 pm
maporsche, a mistake? He was lying through his teeth, and not the first
time. Remember before Monica was Genifer Flowers, and many others.
Bill openly made a fool out of Hillary, and she stood there all quiet and
docile, like a wife of the 50s. What she first dismissed came to haunt her.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 09:22 pm
CalamityJane wrote:
You got it all wrong. Hillary objected to the "cookie baking housewives"
as she was a professional woman not interested in household chores.
A true feminist - until the day her husband had NO sexual relations with
that (Monica) woman. Then she stood by him like a docile wife accepting
all that BS coming from him.


Yes, she got Bill into trouble with her putting down "cookie baking housewives" and then atoned for it by becoming "cookie baking Hillary" That phase lasted a few months as I recall. She dropped Rodham to show that she was willing to play the "good wife" after she became widely seen as out of control, too independent a person to be a good First lady.

M Obama needs to show that she is willing to play the "good wife" by shutting her mouth, just has Bill has recently decided to do the same thing. You know Bill hates it, M would as well I am sure, but they do it for their mates, because being elected president is important to their mates.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 09:25 pm
I like michelle, she seems real.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 09:27 pm
Oy, so how many killed in Israel today? What's the body count in Iraq this week? Is there still hamburger all over the highway in Mystic Connecticut this evening?
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 09:30 pm
I like Michelle too!

hawkeye10 wrote:
Yes, she got Bill into trouble with her putting down "cookie baking housewives" and then atoned for it by becoming "cookie baking Hillary" That phase lasted a few months as I recall. She dropped Rodham to show that she was willing to play the "good wife" after she became widely seen as out of control, too independent a person to be a good First lady.

M Obama needs to show that she is willing to play the "good wife" by shutting her mouth, just has Bill has recently decided to do the same thing. You know Bill hates it, M would as well I am sure, but they do it for their mates, because being elected president is important to their mates.


So in your eyes, a good wife shuts up and does as her husband wishes?
Where the hell do you live?

Hillary would do just about anything to get into power, and if she has
to crawl on gravel, she'll do it. Michelle is real, she's honest and she
won't change her point of view to appease people like you and Miller.
Good for her!!
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 09:35 pm
CalamityJane wrote:
maporsche, a mistake? He was lying through his teeth, and not the first
time. Remember before Monica was Genifer Flowers, and many others.
Bill openly made a fool out of Hillary, and she stood there all quiet and
docile, like a wife of the 50s. What she first dismissed came to haunt her.


Hillary did it to herself. She did not know about what her husband was doing because she did not want to know, there is no other plausible explanation for how an otherwise intelligent woman can be so ignorant for so long. The sympathy that Hillary gets for Bill screwing around on her is misplaced. It shows a lack of good judgement on her part, which should be a negative quality in a person who wants to be POTUS.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 09:39 pm
CalamityJane wrote:
Hillary would do just about anything to get into power, and if she has
to crawl on gravel, she'll do it. Michelle is real, she's honest and she
won't change her point of view to appease people like you and Miller.
Good for her!!


If so then Barack picked poorly, for that would make her an unsuitable wife for a politician. Politics is a game with rules, if the wife is not willing to play those rules then that candidate needs to either get a new wife or play a different game.
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Mame
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 09:45 pm
hawkeye10 wrote:
CalamityJane wrote:
Hillary would do just about anything to get into power, and if she has
to crawl on gravel, she'll do it. Michelle is real, she's honest and she
won't change her point of view to appease people like you and Miller.
Good for her!!


If so then Barack picked poorly, for that would make her an unsuitable wife for a politician. Politics is a game with rules, if the wife is not willing to play those rules then that candidate needs to either get a new wife or play a different game.



Do you think Eleanor Roosevelt played these games?

I don't agree that honest, upright people make unsuitable politicos/partners. I think you're way too cynical.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 09:51 pm
hawkeye10 wrote:
If so then Barack picked poorly, for that would make her an unsuitable wife for a politician. Politics is a game with rules, if the wife is not willing to play those rules then that candidate needs to either get a new wife or play a different game.


That's absurd! Laura Bush is the wife you probably speak of, and look
how incapable her husband is.

Ideally, you should pick a candidate who is competent and shares your
point of view, and not if his wife is outspoken or not. People who think
like you brought us Bush.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 09:55 pm
Mame wrote:


Do you think Eleanor Roosevelt played these games?

I don't agree that honest, upright people make unsuitable politicos/partners. I think you're way too cynical.


With Eleanor, so far as I know (not having studied her much), her husband's political needs come before her desire to do good work and run her mouth in public. She did have a way of pushing hard enough that her husband's staff became unhappy with her though. Eleanor and her husband had a private deal though, and her wants/needs for a public life never were allowed to get much in the way of his much more important public life.
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 10:05 pm
I love the way you say "run her mouth"...

It speaks volumes...

RH
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 10:33 pm
Very good point, Rockhead!
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