The UN, US and Iraq IV

Iran and Uranium
A thread that was likely swallowed up in the excitement over The War ... it started off pretty well, but faded quickly. Guess the timing was bad.

Yeah, I mean that Walter.
Iran snubbed them, and now they seem to be singing a more US tune.
I'll find an article.

Europeans fail to end Iranian nuclear crisis.

In part--


Britain, France and Germany have made an unsuccessful attempt to encourage Iran to comply with the International Atomic Energy Agency rules and curb its nuclear ambitions by offering to share their nuclear technology.
The incentive was intended to persuade Iran to accept tougher nuclear inspections and to halt its uranium enrichment programme.

It was offered despite strong objections by the US, according to a Reuters news agency report yesterday .

Iran's lukewarm reaction served to unite the US and European governments behind the IAEA's tough resolution last week, which requires Iran to prove that it has no-nuclear weapons programme by October 31.

It it fails to do so it make face action by the UN security council action.

The reported behind-the-scenes offer sheds new light on the crisis caused by Iran's nuclear activities.

Tehran's attempt to buy time on the issue has backfired and appears to have paved the way for transatlantic unity.
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Thanks, Timber. I'll take further Iranian news to the other thread. Sorry for clutter.

Iran vows to increase military strength



Iran has vowed to increase its military strength at a public display of some of its most advanced weaponry.
Iranian President Mohammed Khatami issued the pledge at the show of military prowess near Tehran to commemorate the start of the Iran-Iraq war in 1980.

Half a dozen of Iran's Shahab-3 missiles, whose range has caused concern in Israel and the United States, were exhibited for the first time since the missiles were deployed to the armed forces in July.

The show of strength came days after the United Nations nuclear watchdog imposed a 31 October deadline on Iran to prove it is not pursuing a nuclear weapons programme.

President Khatami said that Iran was against weapons of mass destruction and nuclear arms in particular, but he insisted on its right to develop peaceful technology.

Full story

I actually believe that Tony Blair was right in saying it would be a disaster if the EU and US saw themselves as rivals. But that is exactly what is made more likely given the insufferable arrogance expressed by some.

<um...they started it>

The Eu may not be as muscular as some people think. 10% Unemployment in France and Germany. Warnings that retirement ages may have to be raised since it is likely that there will be insufficient funds available for the huge number of retirees. A very low birth rate in Italy( 1.3) and Spain( 1.4) which guarantees that they are in ZPG. A 1% GDP in Germany. The refusal of Sweden to adopt the Euro.
The EU? Thomas Friedman, in his "The Lexus and the Olive Tree" concerning "golbalization" points out that when the USA sneezes, the EU catches a cold!

Exactly, that's what we Europeans think.

Those "some" live not in Europe, I suppose.

You are correct about the retirement age: 55 in Austria and France, 57 in Italy, 62 in Germany is really "very young".
However, most European "pension funds" are no funds as most understand: what I pay now, is not for me, but for those, who are already retired. Since the sum is guarantied, we have to pay more in the funds.

Sweden. Government and industry/economy were pro-Euro, the majority of the population, who voted, against it. (Sweden proportion on total EU-economy is 3%.)

You know perhaps that the U.S. birth rate fell last year to the lowest level since national data have been available: 1.39 .

Perhaps Friedmann MD can give European governments some healthy advice? I'm sure, 15 nations plus the ten new will appreciate this!

Apparently you cannot prove this miniscule disagreement you have, which ought to be easy enough to do...

Another chickenhawk squawking (and what an obnoxious noise that is):



--Tom Delay, (R-Douchebag) 4/28/99

Mr. Hinteler:
Perhaps you are not aware that Sweden DID NOT accept the Euro.

Perhaps you are not aware England HAS NOT SIGNED ON TO THE EURO.

Perhaps you are not aware that the United States has NOT had a large rise in the 2000 Census but that the HUGE wave of immigrants( largely Mexican usually have large families.

In the USA the 1.39 will rise. In Italy and Spain they will continue to decline.

You megelcted to comment on the startling growth of Germanys' GDP- 1% .


Of course, I do understand, Mr., Hinteler that the "Pension funds" for tomorrow's retirees will be paid by tomorrow's workers. That is the same in our county with Social Security. There is, although some of the left wing try to assert it, no lock box with Social Security funds in it here, rather a box filled with IOU's.

The important point to be made, Mr. Hinteler, is with regard to GDP. Germany should have a much larger GDP than 1%

In the USA, Despite all of the moaning and groaning by the left-wing, the GDP will easily top 3% this year and maybe go into the 10% bracket.

That means that the GDP will grow by about 330 Billion to 430 Billion this year.

Mr. Hinteler- You should be aware that GDP is crucial for any economy

The left wing in the USA, some of whom have little understanding of Economics moan abou the deficit.

What most of them do not understand is that the deficit MUST BE viewed against the GDP.

As a percentage of GDP, debt held by the public was highest at the end of World War II,AT AN AMAZING 109 %(Wars do that).

However, Mr. Hinteler, that debt fell to 24 % in 1974.

why?

BECAUSE THE ECONOMY GREW FASTER THAN THE DEBT ACCUMULATED.

So you see, Mr. Hinteler, a 1% GDP in Germany, if continued, spells disaster for the Economy there.

errata:

In the last post, 10% bracket should be 4% bracket

Well, the birth data were those of 2002.

I fully agree that 1% GDP is bad at all.
(Getting from one day to the other 17 million new citizens and incorparate a bancrupt state isn't as easy as the conservatives thought.)

the IMF's growth forecast for the United States has been raised by 0.4 percentage points to 2.6%, 9/21/03

I wonder how much of the US animosity towards the EU is the result of the cold-war generation's desperate search for a new enemy? So far there seem to be three candidates:
United Europe
Islam
Terrorism (whatever that may be).

A generation of leaders reared to think in manichaean terms is in deep trouble without an opponent.

we always have Grenada to fall back on.

Mr. Dyslexia- I am very sorry but I don't accept figures( especially those on the Economy without a link. You see, Mr. Dyslixia, I find that when I read the entire article I usually find demurrers which modify statements in the headline.

Note- According to the Bureau of Economic Analysis- the "real GDP went up at a rate of 3.1% in the second quarter of 2003".

source

http://www.bea.doc.gov/bea/dn/home/gdp/htm

Since I am eager to keep you up to date, Dyslexia, I made a note to find data for the third quarter and the fourth quarter of 2003( when they finish). I will be happy to pass this information along.

Again, I will predict, as I did in my post to Mr. Hinteler, that the GDP in the USA for the 2003 year will be in the 3% to 4% bracket. To be more precise, I am predicting 3.75% on the basis of my reading of predicitions. But predicitions really mean nothing. I will provide the final numbers for you Dyslexia and for Mr. Hinteler.

You think, your " link " is any better?

Grenada. Whatever became of that place? Wasn't it once a member of the Commonwealth, until it was liberated by the US? I remember how the world breathed a sigh of relief that the island no longer posed a threat to freedom loving countries! How we cheered in the UK that the American invasion fleet had defeated 12 marxists, two boys and a Chiwawa. (You know Che-warra, revolutionary leader and dog).

You are indeed correct, An inadvertent error on my part but the data I gave are correct- As always- Try http://www.bea.doc.gov/ and then click on Gross Domestic Product.

Thank you for pointing that out. I wouldn't want Dyslexia to go without the information.