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The UN, US and Iraq IV

 
 
Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 15 Nov, 2003 05:04 pm
I think the Pilgrims likely smelled funny.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Sat 15 Nov, 2003 05:16 pm
Funny? no Nauseating? yes!
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 15 Nov, 2003 05:22 pm
Oh, alright -- GAG!
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 15 Nov, 2003 05:28 pm
Yes, the Fijians were still practicing canibalism for a reason up to about 100 years ago. Wink
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 15 Nov, 2003 05:31 pm
Or perhaps they thought those tall black hats with that huge buckle just looked plain indigestable.
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Sat 15 Nov, 2003 09:34 pm
Quote:


SOURCE
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pistoff
 
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Reply Sat 15 Nov, 2003 10:09 pm
"steely resolve" ?
I call it moronic arrogance. This guy Shrubby with a 10 yr. old maturity and a bordeline IQ may just get the USA into another war. Evil or Very Mad

It is my understanding that N. Korea wanted a non-agression treaty from the USA before the Axis of Evil, dumbass statement. Shrubby insulted their leader and refused to deal with him. N. Korea is a deplorable, cruel Police State which may even be worse that Saddam's Regime was. The US Govt. has not said much about that. N. Korea has WMDs. Hmm... no invasion?

If Iraq would have had WMDs the US Govt. wouldn't have invaded. Iran, another country on the Axis of Evil list is to be blamed for wanting nukes?

The Shrub Regime's policy regarding N. Korea?
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Brand X
 
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Reply Sat 15 Nov, 2003 10:11 pm
China will take care of N. Korea.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 15 Nov, 2003 11:00 pm
It'll be interesting to find out where N Korea intends to test their nukes. China will be watching closely, I'm sure.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sat 15 Nov, 2003 11:23 pm
As DPRKs most important trading partner, and providing the bulk of DPRK's energy and food, China exerts considerable influence. All is not well between the two, either; both have significant military assets poised facing one another, while China is becoming increasingly irritated by what amounts to illegal immigration of North Koreans into China for economic reasons. Given the nature of the relationship between the two, it is to be expected most of China's "restraint" of DPRK would be "back channel" rather than overt remonstrance. Committed to becoming an economic power, achievable only through trade with The West, China has a clear interest in a DPRK not involved in direct confrontation with The West. The words spoken by China to DPRK behind closed doors are very much sterner and more cautionary than are her public pronouncements, which are themselves cautionary to DPRK.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 16 Nov, 2003 02:47 am
When Bush visits the UK next week, he obviously will visit/meet some families of British servicemen killed in Iraq.

(The names have not been officially revealed. Bush said, according to media that he wanted to put rest to the minds of the victim's relatives; he suggested, their lifes were not lost in vain.)

Some families will be among the protesters against Bush.


Since I couldn't find anything online, how's the reaction of the families of US-victims (and the public), when they are visted by the president (or his representatives)? Overwhelmingly patriotic?



Besides, what do you think of all the US-wishes for this visit, e.g. closure of tube, imminity for US-agents in the case of the accidental shooting of a protester, demands for the US air force to patrol above London with fighter aircraft and Black Hawk helicopters and the shipping in of battlefield weaponry to use against rioter? (These extraordinary US demands have been turned down, however, by Ministers and Downing Street during preparations for the Bush visit. )
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pistoff
 
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Reply Sun 16 Nov, 2003 03:14 am
All of these precautions over the top.
Sure some security but this?

Killing Shrub would be foolish because VP Cheney is really the Pres. Doesn't everyone know that? Shrub just delivers the speeches and answers questions albeit he does a poor job of that.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 16 Nov, 2003 06:53 am
Don't give me your nambypamby pantywaist chickenshit English negativity - the President is RESOLVED!

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Cheney ignored war chaos alert

British warnings that America was failing before the war to prepare properly for a crumbling security situation in Iraq after Saddam Hussein was ousted were ignored by Vice President Dick Cheney and the Pentagon.
In some of the first direct evidence of serious divisions between the key allies in the run-up to the conflict, the former British Ambassador to Washington, Sir Christopher Meyer, said the US had failed to focus on what might happen after Saddam had been overthrown...

In an interview with The Observer, Meyer, who was ambassador just before the war began, said there were a series of meetings between British and American officials between the signing of the United Nations Resolution 1441 last November and the start of the war in March.

The British regularly raised their concerns about how much planning was going on to secure the country after Saddam, but the issue was largely ignored.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12239,1086438,00.html
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Sun 16 Nov, 2003 07:20 am
Blatham, finally at least an echo of a voice of reason ...
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 16 Nov, 2003 07:31 am
Interview with Gore Vidal...and if the electronic voting bit doesn't scare the pants off ya, the Saladin bit ought to...
Quote:
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/03/52/features-cooper.php
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Kara
 
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Reply Sun 16 Nov, 2003 08:37 am
Quote:
Besides, what do you think of all the US-wishes for this visit, e.g. closure of tube, imminity for US-agents in the case of the accidental shooting of a protester, demands for the US air force to patrol above London with fighter aircraft and Black Hawk helicopters and the shipping in of battlefield weaponry to use against rioter? (These extraordinary US demands have been turned down, however, by Ministers and Downing Street during preparations for the Bush visit. )


LOL, Walter. I had not read about this.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 16 Nov, 2003 09:14 am
kara

I'm sorry, I recall you asking me a particular question earlier, but I can't now recall what it was...perhaps on the definition of a word?
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Sun 16 Nov, 2003 10:24 am
Well, how about this:

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A new study by an independent military and intelligence expert who toured Iraq recently found no evidence that Saddam Hussein tried to transfer weapons of mass destruction to terrorists.

Anthony Cordesman, a senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, met with top U.S. officials in Iraq, including David Kay, the CIA representative leading the search for chemical, biological and other unconventional weapons.

President Bush, in justifying the invasion and occupation of Iraq, said he feared Saddam, then Iraq's authoritarian president, would supply weapons of mass destruction to terrorist organizations such as al-Qaida.

"No evidence of any Iraqi effort to transfer weapons of mass destruction technology or weapons to terrorists. Only possibility was Saddam's Fedayeen, and talk only," Cordesman wrote of his briefing with Kay. The Fedayeen is the deposed leader's former paramilitary force.


No Sign Saddam Transferred WMD

Will those of you who have posted through the four separate US/UN/Iraq threads such things as 'Saddam sent his WMDs to Syria' please weigh in with your response to this news?

I would also greatly like to hear from anyone who thinks we will still find WMDs in Iraq.
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Sun 16 Nov, 2003 10:41 am
Sorry Pdiddie but ...............



For Immediate Release - Office of the Press Secretary - June 13, 2003 - 9:23 A.M. (EST)

PRESIDENT RELEASES NEWLY RECOVERED WARZONE DOCUMENTS OFFERING INCONTROVERTIBLE PROOF OF IRAQI ACQUISITION OF WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION
Statement by the President

THE PRESIDENT: Good afternoon. Today, I'm taking just a few minutes off from scarfing down pork rinds at my daddy's 79th birthday party to bring glorious news to the American people. After months and months of fruitlessly scouring the charred carcass of Iraq for some shred of evidence to justify my killing more innocent civilians than died on 9/11, I'm pleased to say that documents newly recovered from Saddam bin Hussein's safe prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that this nefarious evildoer was actively scheming with rogue regimes to acquire vast quantities of WMDs. And while I have not had an opportunity to examine the papers myself, I have the utmost faith in the competence of those persons in the Central Intelligence Agency to whom I delegated the task of covering my ass. Therefore, I have ordered these documents to be released immediately. I trust that they will appease the crybaby liberal news media, and effectively debunk any absurd speculation about my Administration and the DoD's Constitutionally suspect Intelligence Office having bullied Georgie Peorgie Tenet and his chubby office jockeys into falsifying reports of Iraqi WMDs just so I could settle a family score. Thank you.


http://www.whitehouse.org/news/2003/images/wmd-receipt1.jpg

http://www.whitehouse.org/news/2003/images/wmd-receipt2.jpg
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Sun 16 Nov, 2003 12:23 pm
That Geli....what a Laughing

I almost missed Colin Powell gushingabout using a sedative hypnotic drug called Ambien:

Quote:
"They're a wonderful medication -- not medication. How would you call it? They're called Ambien, which is very good. You don't use Ambien? Everybody here uses Ambien."


Everybody?

Ambien's common side effects include daytime drowsiness, dizziness, and changes in thinking and behavior. Less common but reported side effects include confusion, emotional instability, and an exaggerated feeling of well-being.

Ambien addiction is also more likely among people who have been dependent on alcohol and can cause amnesia.

Gee. Sound like anybody we know?

And can you imagine the conservative shitstorm if somebody in the Clinton administration had gushed about a drug like this in the middle of a war?
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