thanks, Ann!
Rather than reinvent the wheel I'll defer to the elloquence of this article
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September 4, 2003
Another president began a war promising a "chance to test our weapons, to try our energy and ideas and imagination for the many battles yet to come." He said that as conditions change, "we will be prepared to modify our strategy." The heralded modifications never came, nor did an end to the war. President Lyndon Johnson's war on poverty turned out to be a bigger quagmire than Vietnam. Would that the Democrats would give the war in Iraq as much time to succeed as they are willing to give the "War on Poverty," now entering its 40th year.
Instead of poor people with hope and possibility, we now have a permanent underclass of aspiring criminals knifing one another between having illegitimate children and collecting welfare checks. It is an ironclad law of economics that if you want more of something, subsidize it; if you want less of something, tax it. But liberals were shocked and bewildered to discover that when they subsidized illegitimacy, they got more of it.
The War on Poverty took a crisis-level illegitimacy rate among blacks in the mid-1960s (22 percent) and tripled it to 69 percent. It transformed a negligible illegitimacy rate among whites (2 percent) to emergency proportions (22.5 percent) - higher than the black illegitimacy rate when Daniel Patrick Moynihan heralded the War on Poverty with his alarmist report on black families, "The Negro Family: The Case for National Action." (Demonstrating the sort of on-the job-training that has so impressed Hollywood elites, the state with the second highest rate of white illegitimacy is Howard Dean's Vermont.) Overall, the illegitimacy rate has skyrocketed from about 8 percent to 33.8 percent.
If George Bush's war on terrorism were to go as well as the Democrats' war on poverty, in a few decades we could have four times as many angry Muslims worldwide plotting terrorist violence against Americans.
Or how about an "exit strategy" for New York City's war on high rents? Rent control was introduced as a temporary wartime measure during World War II. Sixty years later, the Germans have been subdued - but government bureaucrats in New York are still setting rents, leading to the surplus of affordable housing for which the city is duly famous. The anointed live in lush five-bedroom apartments in marquee buildings for $350 a month while newcomers are forced to bid up the few units in what's left of the housing market, paying thousands of dollars per month to live in rat-infested tenements.
Justice Sandra Day O'Connor recently upheld a 25-year failed experiment in race discrimination for college admissions. She breezily announced a pull-out date of 2028. Liberals admired O'Connor's Solomon-like resolution of a festering national problem and did not concern themselves with the absence of an "exit strategy."
But George Bush - with the widespread support of the American people and the U.S. Congress - acts to take out a lunatic supporting Islamic terrorism, and within six months, all the Democratic presidential candidates are clamoring for an "exit strategy." Bush should promise the Democrats that there will be peace and democracy in Iraq long before the Democrats conceive of an exit strategy to the war on poverty, the war on high rents, and the war on white kids applying to Michigan Law School.
The party of diversity is in lockstep in supporting all those idiotic programs. They're working just great. But our servicemen come under attack while clearing out a swamp of murderous fanatics who seek the death of all Americans and the Democrats have had enough.
To be fair, encouraging Democrats to come up with new ideas is fraught with danger. One Democrat who has recently demonstrated her out-of-the-box thinking is Mattie Hunter, a Democratic state senator in Illinois. (You knew she was a Democrat when the New York Times neglected to provide a party affiliation.) After a fired employee returned to the auto supply warehouse in Hunter's district to gun down six of his former colleagues, she demanded an investigation into ... the circumstances of the gunman's firing. "How did they do it?" she said. "Did they just say, 'We're going to fire you'? Was it done professionally? In today's day, everyone is under a lot of pressure. When someone loses their job, it's a shock and tragedy in itself."
Perhaps Hunter could propose a War on Firing Employees. In 50 years, 69 percent of all employees will be shooting up their workplaces, but the Democrats will urge patience in working out the bugs.
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and this enjoyable article (snippet included)
Quote:Liberals are hopping mad about the war with Iraq. Showing the nuance and complexity of thought liberals pride themselves on, they are excitedly restating all the arguments they made before the war - arguments which were soundly rejected by the American people, the U.S. Congress and the Bush administration.
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Gautam wrote:Re the suicide bombings of yesterday
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A fifth car bomb failed to explode when the driver was shot and captured by security guards. US military officials said he was found to be carrying a Syrian passport.
Is it just me, or does anyone else find it surprising that suicide bombers wander around carrying their passports with them ?
Craven, The start was here.
Why would an Irainian terrorist want to point the finger of guilt away from Iran? Let me think on it for awhile.
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Welcome. I see you have brought Ms Coulter into play here, though I've not previously seen the adjective 'eloquent' used in reference to her. Here's one of many passages which, typically, doesn't stand scrutiny
Quote:But George Bush - with the widespread support of the American people and the U.S. Congress - acts to take out a lunatic supporting Islamic terrorism
As Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld have now finally gotten around to fessing up....there's 'no connection' between Sadaam and 9-11 nor evidence of support for terrorists. Unlike US friend Saudi Arabia, for example.
There is also no evidence that the Shrub operates with "the widespread support of the American People."
Everyone here agrees that Saddam was known to give large cash rewards to the families of suicide bombers in Palestine, right? Everyone here agrees that there are Islamic Terrorist organizations in Palestine, right? Everyone here agrees that a suicide bombing on a civilian target is considered a terrorist act, right?
So, when Anne Coulter says "But George Bush - with the widespread support of the American people and the U.S. Congress - acts to take out a lunatic supporting Islamic terrorism" she is speaking the truth. How you interpret that truth, or how she tries to manipulate that truth is a dofferent story.
Saddam Hussein helped fund terrorism PERIOD!
The question is not Why Saddam? The question is Why ONLY Saddam ? Why not Arafat, Syria, Iran, Saudi, Egypt, Pakistan etc etc etc
Or maybe they are next in the line ?
McGentrix, blind faith and lies is what got us into this mess. I don't suppose you have a cancelled check or something other than he said she said?
McGentrix, If Saddam's support of terrorism in Israel was the aim of this administration, it hasn't stopped any suicide bombers in Israel - or haven't you noticed? Sort of a very weak argument. The terrorism is in Iraq and Afghanistan, so exactly what terrorist activity did the Bush administration accomplish in stopping? .
McGentrix has a point, but not a good one. It's completely irrelevant to any question other than Israel. It's not relevant to 9-11 - still implied of course - and it is not relevant to the US except that Israel is a client state and because of the ties between the 'neocon' crowd and Israel.
Ask the Saudi's if they're in love with Israel.
I said, an individual who was displaying suspicious behaviour and then producing a Syrian passport is not going to be let go. If he is, then the oxymoron of military intelligence is going to put the accent on moron.
cicerone imposter wrote:McGentrix, If Saddam's support of terrorism in Israel was the aim of this administration, it hasn't stopped any suicide bombers in Israel - or haven't you noticed? Sort of a very weak argument. The terrorism is in Iraq and Afghanistan, so exactly what terrorist activity did the Bush administration accomplish in stopping? .
I never said that was the aim. I said that Saddam supported terrorists. That is a case we KNOW about. How much other money has been funneled into terror organizations? Money that was meant to feed his people, money meant to educate his people, money meant to support his people. We don't know.
Being syrian is not a crime. Getting caught with a bomb in Iraq is. Whose to say he was displaying suspicious behavior. I would think that everyone in Iraq is a bit edgy these days. I am glad to know that the belief that the military is ALWAYS wrong still lingers in some peoples hearts...
McGentrix wrote: I am glad to know that the belief that the military is ALWAYS wrong still lingers in some peoples hearts...
Especially those of us who have been on active duty!
McGent, What exactly was the aim?
Not having the dramatizing TV "news" -- not having anything but staid old NPR and a day-old NYTimes -- I wasn't expecting to hear the drama and worry in the voices of the talking heads on the radio this morning. One was Anthony Cordesman who regularly sticks up for status quo. It appears there really is a seriously rotten situation in Iraq now -- all Iraq, not Baghdad alone. There really is pessimism about the outcome. There really is a widespread feeling that the Americans better get out, had better withdraw from a situation which is is seen to provoke, not help. BUT the international community is wary about getting involved, picking up the pieces Vacuum. Above all I was struck by the pessimism expressed by Cordesman about the impossibility of Americans doing the right thing because we are not equipped with Arab speakers; and later someone remarked that we don't have people who can discern the difference in accents among Iraqis, Syrians, Saudis, etc. All this struck home with me because from the get-go it's been shocking to me that we apparently have very few in our military intelligence who actually speak languages, have experience of other countries, are able to be effective in non-US, non-English-speaking situations.
This is a development, folks, which can actually be dated -- right back to the Reagan administration when Wickes became head of USIA and we treated Central America like our fiefdom. It sprang from that administration's belief in our "innate superiority," the absence of any need to tune into the other, to understand the other. Military force was holy: it replaced knowledge, wisdom, intelligence. Guess we're about to learn otherwise, or are we?
Tartar, The situation in Iraq will get worse. There are too many Muslims/Arabs that feels Americans are occupiers, and the occupation is taking too long. Recruitment will become easier for them while it becomes more difficult for us. What I see happening is that we will continue to support this war with our military and billions until it really begins to affect our "easy" lifestyle. It's started already, and it will mushroom with each passing months and years. GWBush thinks passing the drug benefit for Medicare is gonna help with his reelection, but that's only going to exacerbate the national debt which will carry over into the next generation like verything else. That's when the sh*t will hit the fan.
Promising to send checks to widows of suicide bombers (whether or not said funds ever arrived has not been demonstrated) is hardly equivalent to supporting terrorists attacks.
So far, McG, it has been pointed out to you that: terrorists in Israel threaten Israelis, not Americans; that many other states support terrorism, but were not invaded; that no connection has been reliably made between Iraq and Al Qaida; that you are purporting these things to be so, and providing no reference for your contentions--but you've not answered, BLatham, Gelisgesti, c.i., or LighttotheworldwebeseechyouWizard (just a little joke, Boss). So, uh . . . what's up with that? Just chin music?