The UN, US and Iraq IV

Interesting (and -evoking) story, Gelisgesti.

Also, this quote, I want to keep:



One practical matter, tho, Ge: could you note where a story is from, when you post it?

Having no link is one thing (one might have gotten it by e-mail or something) - but if you dont know where something's from, at all, its - cant use it much. Well, I usually dont even read posts if they're copied from an unspecified source, this time was an exception. And using the "quote" function would really be cool.

X's quote, ""Are we capturing, killing or deterring and dissuading more terrorists every day than the madrassas [Islamic fundamentalist schools] and the radical clerics are recruiting, training and deploying against us?" Rumsfeld asks in the memo." .
I betcha some of those schools being built with our money and our military is gonna be used by those Islamic fundamentalists.

Probably

Re: Dys


BBB--I would like to remind all that it was your language that caused the thread to be locked. I like to give credit where credit is due

Here we go again.

I am notably not pro-Rumsy, but I was impressed today. Why do we have to find our intelligence and intelligent-speak fed into us bit by little bit?

I am finding that my belief in partiality is reinforced every day.

Sorry, will try not to be so sloppy.
The post came from a blog named 'Baghdad burning'
http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/

Oh, there was, as is typical of such episodes of brainfade, plenty of idiocy to go around ... nobody, and no one post, deserves ALL the credit individually.

The Rumsfeld memo .......

TO:
Gen. Dick Myers
Paul Wolfowitz
Gen. Pete Pace
Doug Feith
FROM:
Donald Rumsfeld
SUBJECT:
Global War on Terrorism
October 16, 2003
The questions I posed to combatant commanders this week were: Are we winning or losing the Global War on Terror? Is DoD changing fast enough to deal with the new 21" century security environment? Can a big institution change fast enough?
Is the USG changing fast enough?
DoD has been organized, trained and equipped to fight big armies, navies and air forces. It is not possible to change DoD fast enough to successfully fight the global war on terror; an alternative might be to try to fashion a new institution, either within DoD or elsewhere-one that seamlessly focuses the capabilities of several departments and agencies on this key problem.
With respect to global terrorism, the record since September 11 th seems to be :
-We are having mixed results with Al Qaida, although we have put
considerable pressure on them-nonetheless, a great many remain at
large.
- USG has made reasonable progress in capturing or killing the top 55
Iraqis.
- USG has made somewhat slower progress tracking down the Taliban-
Omar, Hekmatyar, etc .
-With respect to the Ansar Al-Islam, we are just getting started.
Have we fashioned the right mix of rewards, amnesty, protection, and confidence in the US?
Does DoD need to think through new ways to organize, train, equip and focus to deal with the global war on terror?
Are the changes we have and are making too modest and incremental? My
impression is that we have not yet made truly bold moves, although we have made many sensible, logical moves in the right direction, but are they enough?
Today we lack metrics to know if we are winning or losing the global war on terror. Are we capturing, killing or deterring and dissuading more terrorists every day than the madrassas and the radical clerics are recruiting, training and deploying against us?
Does the US need to fashion a broad, integrated plan to stop the next generation of terrorists? The US is putting relatively little effort into a long-range plan, but we are putting a great deal of effort into trying to stop terrorists . The cost-benefit ratio is against us! Our cost is billions against the terrorists' costs of millions .
"
Do we need a new organization?
"
How do we stop those who are financing the radical madrassa schools?
"
Is our current situation such that "the harder we work, the behinder we
get" ?
It is pretty clear that the coalition can win in Afghanistan and Iraq in one way or another, but it will be a long, hard slog .
Does CIA need a new finding?
Should we create a private foundation to entice radical madradssas to a more moderate course?
What else should we be considering?
Please be prepared to discuss this at our meeting on Saturday or Monday .
Thanks .
DHR:dh
101503-58
Please respond by

(cough) ...ahem... and just WHO do we think 'leaked' this memo?????

Pssssst ....... Pssssssst < Rummy did it shhhhhhhhh >

Blatham:

We supposedly have only 4 suspects and each have staff of----oh say ----200 "loyal" followers and one not so loyal. It would seem ludicrous to intentionally "Leak" a Memo such as this but then I was never very good at beaurocratic power plays.

sounds like a loyal flush to me

cute, dys baby

or ............. courtesy flush

Damn---don't laugh like that---his hat size is already 3 sizes too big.

7 1/4

Thanks Gelisgesti!

Charity says Iraqi billions missing


By Shaista Aziz

Thursday 23 October 2003, 14:56 Makka Time, 11:56 GMT


A leading British charity has accused American and British administrators in Iraq of failing to account for $4 billion in oil revenue.


Christian Aid has produced a report, Iraq: The Missing Billions, to coincide with a US-led international conference in Madrid aimed at securing money to rebuild the country.

The report's co-authors, Dominic Nutt and John Davison spent two months working on their findings.

The report reveals that billions of dollars of Iraqi oil money, transferred to the US-controlled Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA), has effectively disappeared.

Christian Aid has been able to account for only $1 billion of the total $5 billion raised from Iraqi oil sales.

John Davison told Aljazeera.net that serious questions need to be asked about the accountability of the CPA.

''This is money that belongs to the Iraqi people''

John Davison
Christian Aid


''This is money that belongs to the Iraqi people, and it's money that should be used to improve the lives of the Iraqi people. Who is deciding where this money is spent? There has to be a system in place that makes people accountable and above suspicion of wrong doing,'' said Davison.

Accountability

The charity states that the lack of accountability on behalf of the CPA is in direct violation of the UN resolution that has given the green light for Iraqi assets to be transferred to the CPA.

Before money was transferred to the CPA an International Monitory Advisory Board should have been set up to monitor the flow of money.

Christian Aid says UN sources have told the charity that the board's formation has been delayed by internal arguments over the limited power that the board would have.

''If this lack of transparency is perpetuated it could well hold the seeds for future disaster in Iraq. The very oil revenues that are potentially the country's greatest asset could, on all available evidence, prove to be a curse,'' said Davison.

Answers

Christian Aid is asking for action to be taken to find out where the missing money is. The charity estimates that by the end of the year the revenue from Iraqi oil will top $9 billion.

The charity is demanding that the CPA should reveal where the money has gone.

''Oil revenues should benefit those who need help most - the country's poor, not just those with power and influence,'' says Davison.


Aljazeera

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