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Abortion......What are the repercussions?

 
 
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jan, 2008 11:36 am
jasonrest wrote:
boomerang wrote:
I got it! I got it!!!

First, abolish foster care and build "care homes".

Then, women who are convicted of abortion could be forced to work in the "care home" tending to the children who have been abused and neglected and otherwise damaged by "parents" who chose not to abort but who really didn't want to be bothered by a child!


Amusing but, your comment goes right back to carelessness.
There are more than enough options to avoid unwanted pregnancy.


You don't even get the gist of it - boomerang was being sarcastic.
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jasonrest
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jan, 2008 11:45 am
Green Witch wrote:
In the 1980's, I volunteered at a Brooklyn maternity hospital to hold "crack babies" as they went through withdrawal. You basically just had to sit in a rocking chair and comfort them as they shook and cried. Outside, four stories down, there was always a little group of people with signs painted with various anti-abortion messages. Myself and a couple of other volunteers tried to get the protestors to come up and hold the babies. Not to make them think the babies should have been aborted, but rather to be active in doing something to help a living child. None of us were successful in recruiting any of the protestors. The most common response we got was something "I'm doing my most important work here on this corner, I'm protesting for the rights of the unborn". They obviously didn't give a crap about living babies, just embryos. These are the same people who will vote for president who vetos medical care for women and children.


Understood however, you're incorporating factors that are not relevant to the topic. A person dependent upon drugs is not concerned with much except.........drugs, let alone STD's or unwanted pregnancy. So of course, that sort of situation will always exist as long as drugs do.

I am pro-life and I care about babies affected by an irresponsible mother.
I also care about babies terminated by the same.
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Dorothy Parker
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jan, 2008 11:47 am
jasonrest is pro-life???

I'm so surprised!

Rolling Eyes
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jasonrest
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jan, 2008 11:49 am
CalamityJane wrote:
jasonrest wrote:
boomerang wrote:
I got it! I got it!!!

First, abolish foster care and build "care homes".

Then, women who are convicted of abortion could be forced to work in the "care home" tending to the children who have been abused and neglected and otherwise damaged by "parents" who chose not to abort but who really didn't want to be bothered by a child!


Amusing but, your comment goes right back to carelessness.
There are more than enough options to avoid unwanted pregnancy.


You don't even get the gist of it - boomerang was being sarcastic.


I understood fully, hence the word "amusing".
He was belittling the idea that women should be punished.
Do you have anything of substance to offer?
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jasonrest
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jan, 2008 11:51 am
I appreciate those who are staying on topic.
Again I ask, for those who are pro choice, when exactly does life begin?
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Dorothy Parker
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jan, 2008 12:11 pm
Do we really have to go through this again? Search the forums jasonrest. It's been done a hundred times.
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boomerang
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jan, 2008 01:35 pm
It must be odd to have such a black and white view of the complicated world.

Not every child conceived survives to birth, even without "interference".

Birth control is not fool-proof. Accidents happen.

My gut tells me you have not spent a lot of time with any young, pregnant women or with young mothers. They all THINK they can do it alone - and sadly, alone is how most of them are. Very few of them can actually do it alone.

When the baby is sick and they don't have insurance so they don't have a doctor and they don't have child care and their boss fires them because they miss work because they have absolutely nowhere to turn and some zealot wags their finger and tells them to be responsible.....

....sigh....

Then I say Man Up.

Man up to make sure there is a safety net for these women and their kids and you will make huge strides in eliminating abortion.

Better yet, be the safety net yourself.
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jasonrest
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jan, 2008 01:39 pm
boomerang wrote:
It must be odd to have such a black and white view of the complicated world.

Not every child conceived survives to birth, even without "interference".

Birth control is not fool-proof. Accidents happen.

My gut tells me you have not spent a lot of time with any young, pregnant women or with young mothers. They all THINK they can do it alone - and sadly, alone is how most of them are. Very few of them can actually do it alone.

When the baby is sick and they don't have insurance so they don't have a doctor and they don't have child care and their boss fires them because they miss work because they have absolutely nowhere to turn and some zealot wags their finger and tells them to be responsible.....

....sigh....

Then I say Man Up.

Man up to make sure there is a safety net for these women and their kids and you will make huge strides in eliminating abortion.

Better yet, be the safety net yourself.


......When does life begin?
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jan, 2008 01:41 pm
Typical.


Search threads as suggested.
YOu have nothing new to bring to the table on this situation.
Join a conversation already in progress.

Unless searching is too much work for ya
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jasonrest
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jan, 2008 01:42 pm
shewolfnm wrote:
Typical.


Search threads as suggested.
YOu have nothing new to bring to the table on this situation.
Join a conversation already in progress.

Unless searching is too much work for ya


....When does life begin?
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jan, 2008 01:42 pm
Laughing
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boomerang
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jan, 2008 01:44 pm
Life begins when a baby is born.
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jasonrest
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jan, 2008 01:44 pm
If no one can provide an answer contrary to my own, then I assume you agree or lack the tools necessary to provide one.
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jasonrest
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jan, 2008 01:45 pm
boomerang wrote:
Life begins when a baby is born.


Ah.... finally.
So, a minute before that child surfaced, still inside the mother's womb, was it not alive?
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Chai
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jan, 2008 01:52 pm
What is it with you jason?

You act like you're teaching a class and grading everyone according to how you take their post.

Conversation at a party or get together must be a blast with you....do you orchestrate and chastise everyone for straying from what you think they should be talking about then also?

If you think you're going to start a thread, and then be some kind of Posting Police, you're dreaming.

Take the stick out of your ass already.



Actually, I think shewolf answer was a perfectly acceptable one.

If you were someone that felt a woman who had an abortion should be punished, I can think of few things that would be worse than being sentenced to spending time with the type of pro-lifers that hang out in front of the abortion clinics.

Forget about hell after you die, you'd be living it having to listen to those people.
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boomerang
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jan, 2008 01:52 pm
I don't know. It depends. Could it survive on it's own outside the womb? Could it survive birth?

Some babies don't survive birth. My good friend's baby died two weeks before she delivered it (note: I did not say two weeks before it was born). Is she a murderer?
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jasonrest
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jan, 2008 01:53 pm
CalamityJane wrote:
jasonrest wrote:
CalamityJane wrote:
Oh yes, I do think they are that dense, especially when their God plays
into this.

I did not offer any repercussions, as abortion is not illegal and I am
pro choice. There was a time in history, however, where abortions were
illegal and the repercussions for women who terminated their pregnancy
was more often than not that they bled to death or were otherwise
mutilated and scared for life by a quack who called himself MD.


and what would be the difference between that woman dying and that child dying?


One is a living being, the other is not capable of living on its own.


Untrue, you should educate yourself before taking positions on such a sensitive matter.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jan, 2008 01:55 pm
so should you.
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jasonrest
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jan, 2008 01:56 pm
boomerang wrote:
I don't know. It depends. Could it survive on it's own outside the womb? Could it survive birth?

Some babies don't survive birth. My good friend's baby died two weeks before she delivered it (note: I did not say two weeks before it was born). Is she a murderer?


Yes, it could survive outside the womb.

(In regard to your second question and last statement)...Again, those special circumstances are understood but we are talking about situations that are completely normal.
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jasonrest
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jan, 2008 01:59 pm
shewolfnm wrote:
so should you.


I have.
Once past the second tri, a baby could in fact survive on its own...
There's more I can add but can you provide a source to the contrary.
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