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Did you read about Al Sharpton and his efforts to gather signatures from people in Florida who did not vote the first time around because they believed the vote would not count?

It is a great counter-measure to the argument about seating the delegates as is for the first version of the vote.

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Yep! Commented over thisaway:

http://www.able2know.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=3138081#3138081

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Thought you might be interested in this if you haven't already seen it. Will crosspost it on Nimh's numbers thread.

http://www.cleveland.com/printer/printer.ssf?/base/news/120505162549970.xml&coll=2

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A staggering 16,000-plus Republicans in Cuyahoga County switched parties when they voted in last week's primary.

That includes 931 in Rocky River, 1,027 in Westlake and 1,142 in Strongsville. More than a third of the Republicans in Solon and Bay Village switched. Pepper Pike had the most dramatic change: just under half its Republicans became Democrats. And some of those who changed - it's difficult to say how many - could be in trouble with the law.

At least one member of the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections wants to investigate some Republicans who may have crossed party lines only to influence which Democrat would face presumed Republican nominee John McCain in November.

Those who crossed lines were supposed to sign a pledge card vowing allegiance to their new party.

In Cuyahoga County, dozens and dozens of Republicans scribbled addendums onto their pledges as new Democrats:

"For one day only."

"I don't believe in abortion."

A Plain Dealer review of thousands of records showed few of those who switched were challenged by poll workers.

Sandy McNair, a Democratic member of the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections, said Friday that the manipulation of the system was troublesome.

"It's something that concerns me, that I think needs to be looked at further," McNair said. "This is not a structural thing by the Republican Party. If it's a problem at all, it's on an individual level."

Lying on the pledge is a felony, punishable by six to 12 months in jail and a $2,500 fine.

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<waves at Buttrflynet> Snows trying to melt. At least the big storm over the weekend missed us. Got soz, though.

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16,000 x $2,500 = 40 million smackers. They could let them off the tank.

They are bang to rights I presume.

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Butrflynet wrote:

Thought you might be interested in this if you haven't already seen it. Will crosspost it on Nimh's numbers thread.

http://www.cleveland.com/printer/printer.ssf?/base/news/120505162549970.xml&coll=2

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"For one day only."

I hadn't already seen that, no.

By the way that was another reason I thought of for why Obama did better in caucuses than the primary, but just Texas-specific -- that the "keep her in it so she can win it" people weren't going to do that at the caucus, too.

But I'd believe that a segment of those 16,000 were actual Obamacans; people who either really will vote for him if he becomes the nominee, or who think McCain and Obama are the two best candidates and have to think more about which one they'll vote for.

The "one day only" thing is pretty damning, though...!

On a possibly related subject, Bill Clinton evidently went on Limbaugh on the day of the TX primary.

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/wtf-bill-clinton-on-rush-limba.php

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On a possibly related subject, Bill Clinton evidently went on Limbaugh on the day of the TX primary.

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/wtf-bill-clinton-on-rush-limba.php

These are the people Okie and crew describe as socialist liberals... Laughing

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Swimpy wrote:

Got soz, though.

Sure did! 20+ inches. Now it's 44 and the sun is out and it's melting pretty fast, though.

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16,000 x $2,500 = 40 million smackers. They could let them off the tank.

They are bang to rights I presume.

If that's daft does it means only some of the laws have to be obeyed in the US?

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This looks like it could be a good idea if it appears that the Pennsylvania vote will be a blow out for Clinton.

Will Obama go on a Foreign Policy Tour?

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Do you really think bfn that that is of the slightest importance compared to the question I had asked.

If you do you are apolitical to a tee.

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spendius wrote:

Do you really think bfn that that is of the slightest importance compared to the question I had asked.

Who's paying attention to your questions? :wink:

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I don't know.

Who's paying attention to yours?

Are some felonies okay and some not is all I asked.

Do you really think that- "Who's paying attention to your questions?" provides a satisfactory riposte to that, wink and all?

It's another variant on "Why can't we talk about Octavia's new hairstyle".

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I still can't figure out what the question is that you're trying to ask...

I got the part about the 16,000 voters times the $2500 fine per person...

the rest of it was a bunch of garbled musings...

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Hardly.

You said earlier that 16,000 Republicans had committed a felony carrying a $2,500 fine in Cuyahoga County.

I was wondering what was going on. Electoral fraud is considered serious here.

Fining them all would bring in $40 million and not fining them opens up the possibility that not all felonies are prosecuted.

Why is it a felony? Would the primaries not work if it isn't? Can you choose which laws to disobey?

It's me who is confused.

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Spendius, while nothing would please me more than to see the Democrats follow-up and try to prosecute the 'crossovers', I think even they realize a) it would not help their party politically, and b) there's a good chance it is unconstitutional. Don't expect to see any real action from the Democrats on this one.

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Thanks.

But I don't understand it. I don't see why there's a felony involved and if there is I don't see why there are no prosecutions.

One could say that if 16,000 had a Public Space "smoke-in" they wouldn't be prosecuted. Or a "goose-a-typist behind the filing cabinets" festival for that matter.

Are felonies when only a small number commit them?

It seems an interesting constitutional confusion to someone who can vote anyway right up to the last moment.

Not that I vote. Perish the thought.

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I think it's mostly just extremely hard to prosecute. It's about what people are thinking.

"Did you REALLY vote for Hillary because you think she's the best Democratic nominee?"

"Yes."

"Um. OK. Next!"

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