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It's Gonna Get Ugly For Barack and Hillary

 
 
nimh
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 07:31 pm
nappyheadedhohoho wrote:
You really should contact Newsweek and straighten them out. They're obviously in need of a bit of hand-slapping.

I did drop them an email actually - much more politely worded than my post, of course. Razz Will probably not even be read, but who knows.

And yes, re engineer, about how often journalists dont seem to be able to read even simple statistics. It's kind of frustrating, but yeah, **** happens.
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nappyheadedhohoho
 
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Reply Sun 16 Mar, 2008 07:36 pm
That's the spirit.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Mon 17 Mar, 2008 06:18 pm
How can she be president when she doesnt even remember what she wrote in her own book?
She contradicts what she wrote, so was she lying then or is she lying now?


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080317/ap_on_el_pr/clinton_fact_check_1

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WASHINGTON - As first lady, Hillary Rodham Clinton traveled to Bosnia in March 1996 with her daughter and several celebrities to boost troop morale and thank soldiers stationed there.

Clinton cites the goodwill trip as a part of her foreign policy experience, describing a dangerous landing where she was ordered to the armored front of the plane because of possible ground fire. She also now reports landing under sniper fire and contradicts her previous written account of a shortened welcoming ceremony at the airport.

But according to accounts at the time, she was placed under no extraordinary risks on that trip. And one of her companions on it said he has no recollection either of the threat or reality of gunfire.


Does she really think that people didnt read her book, or does she not care?
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nappyheadedhohoho
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2008 04:40 pm
Keystone Democrats Set to Defect
March 21, 2008 10:06 AM

In the new Franklin & Marshall College Poll (read it HERE) some good news for Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, and some troubling news for Democrats.

Clinton leads Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, 51% to 35% -- increasing her lead from February, when she was up 44% to 37%. She leads among young voters, wealthier voters...voters in virtually every demographic group, with the exceptions of Philly voters and non-whites.

In a sign of just how divisive and ugly the Democratic fight has gotten, only 53% of Clinton voters say they'll vote for Obama should he become the nominee. Nineteen percent say they'll go for Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and 13% say they won't vote.

Sixty percent of Obama voters say they'll go for Clinton should she win the nomination, with 20% opting for McCain, and three percent saying they won't vote.

Grim.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/keystone-democr.html
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2008 06:02 pm
Roxxxanne wrote:
snood wrote:
pray, to what elusive truth do you refer?


The truth is that the Dems are a diverse coalition with a large umbrella. A coalition whose diversiity leads to a lot of in fighting. The Republican Party is a party of rich, white people and not-so rich white people who embrace the snob appeal of the Republican Party and walk together blindly in lock step.


hmmmm... sounds like what the Obamaites are turning the dem party into.... different style.... different folks.... same attitude. elitism takes many forms...
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okie
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2008 10:01 pm
Roxxxanne wrote:

The truth is that the Dems are a diverse coalition with a large umbrella. A coalition whose diversiity leads to a lot of in fighting. The Republican Party is a party of rich, white people and not-so rich white people who embrace the snob appeal of the Republican Party and walk together blindly in lock step.

Laughing Laughing Laughing
One of the perks of watching the Democrats self destruct is watching the hysteria that goes with it.
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nappyheadedhohoho
 
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Reply Sun 23 Mar, 2008 12:09 am
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Dangerous Situation Developing for Democrats in Denver

Denver could face a "dangerous situation" on the eve of the Democratic National Convention, war protesters said Thursday, after losing a coveted permit for Civic Center to the convention host committee.

"When things blow up because the police have to enforce a permit that the Democrats got, don't blame us for that," said Glenn Spagnuolo, an organizer for the Re-create 68 Alliance.

"Blame the Democrats for trying to silence dissent in the city of Denver."

The lottery for permits to protest, pray or hold other events in city parks during the DNC Aug. 24 through 28 resumed Thursday after the city bungled the drawing Tuesday by accidentally leaving out some of the applicants' names.

But when Jenny Anderson, event planner for the Denver 2008 Convention Host Committee, won the permit for Civic Center for a kick-off Aug. 24, Spagnuolo accused the committee of creating a "very serious, dangerous situation . . . for everybody."

Re-create 68 - which has promised demonstrations that will rival those at the bloody 1968 Democratic convention in Chicago - will be at Civic Center on Aug. 24, with or without a permit, he said.

The group, which is expecting up to 50,000 protesters from across the country, plans to march from Civic Center to the Pepsi Center, where the convention will be held, on Aug. 24, even though a parade route or a security zone hasn't been announced.

Some people observing the lottery attributed it to karma.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/mar/21/protesters-rip-dnc-lottery/


Popcorn time!
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sun 23 Mar, 2008 12:50 am
nappyheadedhohoho wrote:
Quote:
Dangerous Situation Developing for Democrats in Denver

Denver could face a "dangerous situation" on the eve of the Democratic National Convention, war protesters said Thursday, after losing a coveted permit for Civic Center to the convention host committee.

"When things blow up because the police have to enforce a permit that the Democrats got, don't blame us for that," said Glenn Spagnuolo, an organizer for the Re-create 68 Alliance.

"Blame the Democrats for trying to silence dissent in the city of Denver."

The lottery for permits to protest, pray or hold other events in city parks during the DNC Aug. 24 through 28 resumed Thursday after the city bungled the drawing Tuesday by accidentally leaving out some of the applicants' names.

But when Jenny Anderson, event planner for the Denver 2008 Convention Host Committee, won the permit for Civic Center for a kick-off Aug. 24, Spagnuolo accused the committee of creating a "very serious, dangerous situation . . . for everybody."

Re-create 68 - which has promised demonstrations that will rival those at the bloody 1968 Democratic convention in Chicago - will be at Civic Center on Aug. 24, with or without a permit, he said.

The group, which is expecting up to 50,000 protesters from across the country, plans to march from Civic Center to the Pepsi Center, where the convention will be held, on Aug. 24, even though a parade route or a security zone hasn't been announced.

Some people observing the lottery attributed it to karma.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/mar/21/protesters-rip-dnc-lottery/


Popcorn time!


I like twizzlers, but will surely enjoy the show.

I can't believe I didn't think about a ruckus outside of the convention hall, but, of course, it is to be expected.

"Re-Create 68."

How perfect!

This is The Left in action.

If we're lucky these "radicals" will get so jacked up preparing for the event that even if the Obama/Clinton war is resolved before the convention, they will still feel compelled to cause mayhem.

And this was the year when the Democrats couldn't lose. Laughing
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Sun 23 Mar, 2008 08:39 am
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
Roxxxanne wrote:
snood wrote:
pray, to what elusive truth do you refer?


The truth is that the Dems are a diverse coalition with a large umbrella. A coalition whose diversiity leads to a lot of in fighting. The Republican Party is a party of rich, white people and not-so rich white people who embrace the snob appeal of the Republican Party and walk together blindly in lock step.


hmmmm... sounds like what the Obamaites are turning the dem party into.... different style.... different folks.... same attitude. elitism takes many forms...


Yup, all those elite black folk. The Obama supporters are as diverse as the party itself. And I invite you uneducated white folks to join the winning side.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Sun 23 Mar, 2008 08:47 am
Finn d'Schadenfreude writes:

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And this was the year when the Democrats couldn't lose.Smile



Was? Better check your calendar, it is only March. This is the year that Democrats can't lose and won't. I don't gloat over the unhappiness of others (it is by and large a trait of conservatives who have no regard for their fellow human beings) but it will be delicious to bump these threads up in November.
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nappyheadedhohoho
 
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Reply Sun 23 Mar, 2008 08:23 pm
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
nappyheadedhohoho wrote:
Quote:
Dangerous Situation Developing for Democrats in Denver

Denver could face a "dangerous situation" on the eve of the Democratic National Convention, war protesters said Thursday, after losing a coveted permit for Civic Center to the convention host committee.

"When things blow up because the police have to enforce a permit that the Democrats got, don't blame us for that," said Glenn Spagnuolo, an organizer for the Re-create 68 Alliance.

"Blame the Democrats for trying to silence dissent in the city of Denver."

The lottery for permits to protest, pray or hold other events in city parks during the DNC Aug. 24 through 28 resumed Thursday after the city bungled the drawing Tuesday by accidentally leaving out some of the applicants' names.

But when Jenny Anderson, event planner for the Denver 2008 Convention Host Committee, won the permit for Civic Center for a kick-off Aug. 24, Spagnuolo accused the committee of creating a "very serious, dangerous situation . . . for everybody."

Re-create 68 - which has promised demonstrations that will rival those at the bloody 1968 Democratic convention in Chicago - will be at Civic Center on Aug. 24, with or without a permit, he said.

The group, which is expecting up to 50,000 protesters from across the country, plans to march from Civic Center to the Pepsi Center, where the convention will be held, on Aug. 24, even though a parade route or a security zone hasn't been announced.

Some people observing the lottery attributed it to karma.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/mar/21/protesters-rip-dnc-lottery/


Popcorn time!


I like twizzlers, but will surely enjoy the show.

I can't believe I didn't think about a ruckus outside of the convention hall, but, of course, it is to be expected.

"Re-Create 68."

How perfect!

This is The Left in action.

If we're lucky these "radicals" will get so jacked up preparing for the event that even if the Obama/Clinton war is resolved before the convention, they will still feel compelled to cause mayhem.

And this was the year when the Democrats couldn't lose. Laughing


It gets better! An article last week stated the DNC was way behind on their fundraising to sponsor the DNC. Their excuse was that the infighting was 'distracting' donors and them opening their checkbooks. It will be interesting to see how they spin it as the convention date approaches and there is still no obvious choice (was going to use the word 'leader,' but for obvious reasons, not the right word).

Will be a 3-ring circus both inside and outside!
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High Seas
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2008 09:15 am
Funny how our host on thread, Snood, has disappeared - especially since his title turns out to be so, SO, eerily prophetic!

Maybe because he was hoping to blame Republicans for any Hillary / Obama problems and that didn't pan out? Nah, perish the thought <G>
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snood
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2008 11:29 am
I haven't gone anywhere...
but thanks for noticing...
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High Seas
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2008 11:38 am
Thanks for the appearance, Snood. If you'd only address your own question about Hillary / Obama problems you anticipated to be caused by Republicans - and not by each other.......
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blatham
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2008 12:20 pm
High Seas wrote:
Funny how our host on thread, Snood, has disappeared - especially since his title turns out to be so, SO, eerily prophetic!

Maybe because he was hoping to blame Republicans for any Hillary / Obama problems and that didn't pan out? Nah, perish the thought <G>


Well, darlin', no prophesy I've bumped into in this lifetime was more certain to achieve rich fullfillment.

It is the nature of the modern conservative movement (and the modern Republican Party) that they will smear and slime their way to power via a propaganda arm that would have been the envy of Mao or Lenin.

kiss
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2008 12:31 pm
blatham wrote:
High Seas wrote:
Funny how our host on thread, Snood, has disappeared - especially since his title turns out to be so, SO, eerily prophetic!

Maybe because he was hoping to blame Republicans for any Hillary / Obama problems and that didn't pan out? Nah, perish the thought <G>


Well, darlin', no prophesy I've bumped into in this lifetime was more certain to achieve rich fullfillment.

It is the nature of the modern conservative movement (and the modern Republican Party) that they will smear and slime their way to power via a propaganda arm that would have been the envy of Mao or Lenin.

kiss


And the dems dont?
Are you saying the dems are pure and innocent, never using dirty tactics or lying about their opponents to win?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2008 12:32 pm
Nah, but just for perspective...

It is the nature of the modern progressive movement (and the modern Democrat Party) that they will smear and slime their way to power via a propaganda arm that would have been the envy of Mao or Lenin.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2008 01:31 pm
Apparently, both of them have embellished their records in the Senate.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/24/politics/washingtonpost/main3961010.shtml?source=RSSattr=HOME_3961010

Quote:
After weeks of arduous negotiations, on April 6, 2006, a bipartisan group of senators burst out of the "President's Room," just off the Senate chamber, with a deal on new immigration policy.

As the half-dozen senators -- including John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) -- headed to announce their plan, they met Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), who made a request common when Capitol Hill news conferences are in the offing: "Hey, guys, can I come along?" And when Obama went before the microphones, he was generous with his list of senators to congratulate -- a list that included himself.


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To Senate staff members, who had been arriving for 7 a.m. negotiating sessions for weeks, it was a galling moment. Those morning sessions had attracted just three to four senators a side, Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) recalled, each deeply involved in the issue. Obama was not one of them. But in a presidential contest involving three sitting senators, embellishment of legislative records may be an inevitability, Specter said with a shrug.


Quote:
Clinton also has her share of colleagues only too willing scrutinize her claims. Her campaign Web site describes Clinton's "successful effort to create" the popular State Children's Health Insurance Program during her husband's tenure in the White House, and she has placed herself in the middle of major international events, including the Northern Ireland peace process and the Balkan conflict.

But prominent Democratic senators, Irish historians and even Sinbad the comedian, who accompanied Clinton to Kosovo, are challenging some of her assertions.

During months of SCHIP negotiations in 1997, her name rarely surfaced in news accounts. Clinton never testified before Congress or held a news conference on the bill. When Sen. Orrin G. Hatch (Utah), the lead GOP negotiator of the children's health bill, heard reports that Clinton was depicting herself as SCHIP's main advocate, "I had to blink a few times," he said. Hatch said he doesn't recall a single conversation with Clinton about SCHIP, even a mention of her name. "If she was involved, I didn't know about it," he said.



So, if both of them are trying to pad their record, why should either of them be trusted?
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snood
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2008 06:01 pm
High Seas wrote:
Thanks for the appearance, Snood. If you'd only address your own question about Hillary / Obama problems you anticipated to be caused by Republicans - and not by each other.......


I didn't anticipate the tone becoming as intense as it has between Hillary and Obama, but do you suppose for a moment that changes by one whit that the GOP will unleash all that and more, in the general election?
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2008 09:51 pm
snood wrote:
High Seas wrote:
Thanks for the appearance, Snood. If you'd only address your own question about Hillary / Obama problems you anticipated to be caused by Republicans - and not by each other.......


I didn't anticipate the tone becoming as intense as it has between Hillary and Obama, but do you suppose for a moment that changes by one whit that the GOP will unleash all that and more, in the general election?


They won't have to.

By the time Obama wins the nomination he will have been crippled by Hillary.

And Wright's replacement at the pulpet promises to keep on keep'in on. How many You Tube uploaders are currently attending these sermons?

I've no doubt Rev Moss will not dissappoint. After all, on Easter Sunday, he compared his predecessor to Jesus Christ.

Notwithstanding the somewhat famous "Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's..." comment, I won't quibble with the notion that, at least, the historical Jesus spoke out about perceived social injustices. I'm not sure he preached "God Damn Rome!" in his sermon on the Mount, but he did seem to care about how the locals treated prostitutes, adulterers, and lepers.

Of course there doesn't seem to be any references, Biblical or otherwise, to Jesus standing before his flock shouting "Herod did to us Jews what he did to Salome! He rode her dirty!" (Punctuated by a series of pelvic thrusts while the apostle Mark leaped from the assembled and clapped him on the back for emphasis.)

I suspect Rev Moss is not about to let The Man shut down the ministery of his church, and so we can count on him for continued outrage. Will Obama be forced to renounce him as well, and since he's a might younger that Rev Wright should he be considered the "Smart-mouthed cousin at the Thanksgiving table?"

You know, I should have seen it. The Right Wing Hate Machine arranged for both Rev Wright and Rev Moss to lead the flock at Obama's church. Good God are they diabolical! What chance does The Expected One have with such forces arrayed against him?
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