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It's Gonna Get Ugly For Barack and Hillary

 
 
okie
 
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Reply Sat 29 Mar, 2008 10:25 am
mysteryman wrote:
engineer wrote:
Here's the link.

Here's the quote:

Quote:
"I am absolutely confident that by the time this thing is over, the Democratic party will be completely unified."
"For those of you who are just weary of the primary, and feeling kind of ground down or that it's like a Bataan death march, I just want everybody to know that the future is bright."


OK, having read his comments, and being able to see the context of how he meant it, then I will stand by my comment that it was an extremely poor choice of words, and he should have known better then to use that analogy.

Agreed. I knew a man that survived the Bataan death march, and he lived as a weaker person afterwards, after the war, according to those that knew him and it seemed to be the case, dying sooner than he probably would have otherwise.

I think we continue to see the youth, inexperience, and just plain stumbling and immaturity as a leader and political candidate in Obama. I sense the excitement is subsiding, although some are behind him for the long haul, unless he can re-excite the masses before November, like the Obamaites fell for him earlier, I think he should be relatively easy to beat. Only a very inept campaign by McCain would explain a loss.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Sat 29 Mar, 2008 10:26 am
okie wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
engineer wrote:
Here's the link.

Here's the quote:

Quote:
"I am absolutely confident that by the time this thing is over, the Democratic party will be completely unified."
"For those of you who are just weary of the primary, and feeling kind of ground down or that it's like a Bataan death march, I just want everybody to know that the future is bright."


OK, having read his comments, and being able to see the context of how he meant it, then I will stand by my comment that it was an extremely poor choice of words, and he should have known better then to use that analogy.

Agreed. I knew a man that survived the Bataan death march, and he lived as a weaker person afterwards, after the war, according to those that knew him and it seemed to be the case, dying sooner than he probably would have otherwise.

I think we continue to see the youth, inexperience, and just plain stumbling and immaturity as a leader and political candidate in Obama. I sense the excitement is subsiding, although some are behind him for the long haul, unless he can re-excite the masses before November, like the Obamaites fell for him earlier, I think he should be relatively easy to beat. Only a very inept campaign by McCain would explain a loss.


Laughing

How poorly you understand politics.

Cycloptichorn
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okie
 
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Reply Sat 29 Mar, 2008 10:28 am
I understand you, the typical liberal voter, cyclops, and thats the basis of politics. As P. T. Barnum said, there is a sucker born everyday. Laughing
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snood
 
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Reply Sat 29 Mar, 2008 10:29 am
that's for sure - look at all the suckers who voted in Bush - twice.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Sat 29 Mar, 2008 10:30 am
maporsche wrote:
snood wrote:
Jee-sus jumpin up kee-ryst on a pogo stick.....


Aren't you folks on the right always whining about the PC police infringing on your freedom of speech? No one in their right minds thinks for a nanosecond that Obama meant anything bad against the men, women and children who underwent the torture of the Bataan march!!

It's like, someone said "Texas is hot as Hell in the summer", and some dummy is tring to claim he made a disparaging remark about Christians.

I mean - WTF?!?!


I'm not on the right snood.


Bullshit
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maporsche
 
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Reply Sat 29 Mar, 2008 10:32 am
Roxxxanne wrote:
maporsche wrote:
snood wrote:
Jee-sus jumpin up kee-ryst on a pogo stick.....


Aren't you folks on the right always whining about the PC police infringing on your freedom of speech? No one in their right minds thinks for a nanosecond that Obama meant anything bad against the men, women and children who underwent the torture of the Bataan march!!

It's like, someone said "Texas is hot as Hell in the summer", and some dummy is tring to claim he made a disparaging remark about Christians.

I mean - WTF?!?!


I'm not on the right snood.


Bullshit



Aside from gun control and possibly some economic issues I would bet we agree on most issues.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Sat 29 Mar, 2008 10:32 am
okie wrote:
I understand you, the typical liberal voter, cyclops, and thats the basis of politics. As P. T. Barnum said, there is a sucker born everyday. Laughing


No, you don't understand the 'liberal voter,' Okie. Only a picture in your head, a caricature, of what people actually are.

Cycloptichorn
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maporsche
 
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Reply Sat 29 Mar, 2008 10:48 am
Roxxxanne wrote:
maporsche wrote:
snood wrote:
Jee-sus jumpin up kee-ryst on a pogo stick.....


Aren't you folks on the right always whining about the PC police infringing on your freedom of speech? No one in their right minds thinks for a nanosecond that Obama meant anything bad against the men, women and children who underwent the torture of the Bataan march!!

It's like, someone said "Texas is hot as Hell in the summer", and some dummy is tring to claim he made a disparaging remark about Christians.

I mean - WTF?!?!


I'm not on the right snood.


Bullshit


Here I am arguing with Snood about abortion rights. I'm MORE liberal than Snood is here.
http://www.able2know.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1573387#1573387

Here I am arguing AGAINST drilling in ANWR.
http://www.able2know.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2671872#2671872
http://www.able2know.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=47327&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=1190


Here I am arguing FOR greater access to the "day after" pill.
http://www.able2know.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1544615#1544615


Here is one of my many posts critizing the war in Iraq.
http://www.able2know.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2791471#2791471


Here is one of the many posts where McGentrix calls me a liberal.
http://www.able2know.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2791566#2791566








My point Roxxxanne is that you are unable to see how a liberal person could NOT support Obama. You support for Obama is blinding you in this regard.
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nappyheadedhohoho
 
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Reply Sat 29 Mar, 2008 11:18 am
A Nightmare That's Getting Worse...

Laughing
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sat 29 Mar, 2008 02:34 pm
snood wrote:
Jee-sus jumpin up kee-ryst on a pogo stick.....


Aren't you folks on the right always whining about the PC police infringing on your freedom of speech? No one in their right minds thinks for a nanosecond that Obama meant anything bad against the men, women and children who underwent the torture of the Bataan march!!

It's like, someone said "Texas is hot as Hell in the summer", and some dummy is tring to claim he made a disparaging remark about Christians.

I mean - WTF?!?!


And nobody is infringing on his right to free speech.
All I said is it was an extremely poor analogy, and he should have known better.
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Sat 29 Mar, 2008 02:38 pm
Is not the word UGLY an AMERICAN democracy mysteryman?

Seek democracy elsewhere but not Iraq and Afganisthan.
Am i joking sir?
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maporsche
 
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Reply Sat 29 Mar, 2008 02:45 pm
maporsche wrote:
Roxxxanne wrote:
maporsche wrote:
snood wrote:
Jee-sus jumpin up kee-ryst on a pogo stick.....


Aren't you folks on the right always whining about the PC police infringing on your freedom of speech? No one in their right minds thinks for a nanosecond that Obama meant anything bad against the men, women and children who underwent the torture of the Bataan march!!

It's like, someone said "Texas is hot as Hell in the summer", and some dummy is tring to claim he made a disparaging remark about Christians.

I mean - WTF?!?!


I'm not on the right snood.


Bullshit


Here I am arguing with Snood about abortion rights. I'm MORE liberal than Snood is here.
http://www.able2know.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1573387#1573387

Here I am arguing AGAINST drilling in ANWR.
http://www.able2know.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2671872#2671872
http://www.able2know.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=47327&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=1190


Here I am arguing FOR greater access to the "day after" pill.
http://www.able2know.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1544615#1544615


Here is one of my many posts critizing the war in Iraq.
http://www.able2know.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2791471#2791471


Here is one of the many posts where McGentrix calls me a liberal.
http://www.able2know.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2791566#2791566








My point Roxxxanne is that you are unable to see how a liberal person could NOT support Obama. You support for Obama is blinding you in this regard.




Roxxxanne.....I'm still waiting on your apology.
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engineer
 
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Reply Sat 29 Mar, 2008 02:49 pm
maporsche wrote:
My point Roxxxanne is that you are unable to see how a liberal person could NOT support Obama. You support for Obama is blinding you in this regard.

To me the real question is how can you vote for McCain. I don't care for Clinton as a person or a politician and as a person I like McCain much better, but I would vote for Clinton before McCain since I strongly do not support McCain's positions and somewhat support Clinton's. On the issues I agree with McCain on, he has spent the last several months running away from his old positions. On just about all the issues you posted, you don't agree with McCain and do agree with Obama. Eight years of McCain will leave the country further away from the positions you espouse. So why are you supporting him? It's the age old battle between the heart and the mind. There are a good number of people here who berate Obama supporters for voting their hearts instead of their minds, but then they turn around and vote their hearts against Obama.
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Sat 29 Mar, 2008 03:23 pm
Engineer
None of the three avoilable aspirants can uphold the
DREAMS OF THE poor Americans.
Forget it.
Show business pure and Bollywood dance
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sat 29 Mar, 2008 03:29 pm
In 2004 Howard Dean asked a rhetorical question that still matters today...

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/howard-dean-200.html

Quote:
"The real issue is this," Dean said in March 2004, when endorsing formal rival Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., "Who would you rather have in charge of the defense of the United States of America, a group of people who never served a day overseas in their life, or a guy who served his country honorably and has three Purple Hearts and a Silver Star on the battlefields of Vietnam?"

McCain, by the way, has been awarded the Silver Star, the Legion of Merit, two Bronze Star Medals, a Purple Heart and the Distinguished Flying Cross.


So, since he endorsed Kerry because of his service record, he must be endorsing McCain today.
After all, look at the question Dean asked.
Tell me why that same question doesnt apply now.
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Sat 29 Mar, 2008 03:32 pm
Is not the word UGLY an AMERICAN democracy mysteryman?
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Sat 29 Mar, 2008 03:38 pm
Did someone forget to tell Hillary that she was eligible for draft and for those medal recognitions in the Vietnam war too?
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okie
 
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Reply Sat 29 Mar, 2008 09:49 pm
Well lets see, she tried to join the marines, after all she said she did. And she was under sniper fire in Bosnia. And she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary, even though he became famous after she was named. What else, she baked cookies, brought peace to Northern Ireland, and I have not even scratched the surface of the 35 years of experience.
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okie
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2008 01:53 pm
Gettin vicious out there:

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/03/air-america-host-suspended-for-calling-clinton-ferraro-fg-whores/
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 3 Apr, 2008 02:55 pm
Ramafuchs wrote:
Am i joking sir?

Who knows?
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