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Money talks, bulls**** walks

 
 
cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2007 09:53 am
Me too. I think you seriously need to TP this guys house.
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Gala
 
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Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2007 10:56 am
TTH wrote:
Kicky
Gala's statement didn't go over my head. I saw it. However, I still think someone who expects a bonus is selfish imo. I also feel that if there was any doubt about a bonus of any kind, then how come you (Gala) didn't just go to the owner, boss or whatever title that person has and ask about the bonus?


Selfish? I do not agree.

The bonus was implied. Why would I ask them about it once they've implied I am getting one?
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Chai
 
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Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2007 12:15 pm
Gala wrote:
Mame wrote:
In some companies I've worked for, we never even had a Christmas party, much less a bonus. She should be grateful to have a job.


No, they ought to be grateful they have me. This attitude of "should" and being grateful to have a job is utter bull. It's okay to ask for things in a job if you feel you've been short-changed. You may not get what you want, but it's important to let it be known.

I can live without the X-mas party and the dinners.


Herein lies the rub.

We have 2 camps here, the "you should be grateful to have a job" and the "I give them my time and my talents, and should be awarded accordingly" sectors.

There is of course an overlapping. I'll be the first to admit I'm happy to have my particular job. But they are happy to have me. Could I be replaced? Sure, but not that easily. Actually, I'm mentoring someone to step up when I decide to leave. But that's another story.

When someone says "you shouldÂ…." They're really telling you you're not doing it right, and "should" do what they would do, or at least have the same feelings about it.

Apropos to the season, telling me I "should be grateful to have a job, and be happy to get the $50" reminds me of Ebenezer Scrooge being so kind as to give Bob Crackett half a day off at Christmas.

Ebenezer, as we all know, had plenty of money, just didn't want to part with it.

And Bob had some self esteem issues thinking he was worth so little.
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Gala
 
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Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2007 12:32 pm
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:


so no desert then?


Desert (mispelled intentionally): I had a brandy, he a scotch on the rocks. That's when the brain picking began.
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caribou
 
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Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2007 12:40 pm
To me, Gala came here to vent. Not questioning whether or not she deserved the bonus. In her mind she worked hard and was told she would "be taken care of". Sure she had a little fantasy what she would do with the what she thought would be a cash bonus, who wouldn't?

So it sucks she didn't get what she thought she deserved.

There was also a lesson learned.

Now, I'm wondering... are you going to continue working at this job? If you do, do you think you would bother working as hard as you did? Is this the way of this company or can expectations be discussed so that you are reseasonably reassured that a brighter future lies ahead? Or are they just going to be a sucky to their employee type of place? Is it time to find a better place that will appreciate your talents?
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Gala
 
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Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2007 01:27 pm
caribou wrote:
To me, Gala came here to vent. Not questioning whether or not she deserved the bonus. In her mind she worked hard and was told she would "be taken care of". Sure she had a little fantasy what she would do with the what she thought would be a cash bonus, who wouldn't?

So it sucks she didn't get what she thought she deserved.

There was also a lesson learned.

Now, I'm wondering... are you going to continue working at this job? If you do, do you think you would bother working as hard as you did? Is this the way of this company or can expectations be discussed so that you are reseasonably reassured that a brighter future lies ahead? Or are they just going to be a sucky to their employee type of place? Is it time to find a better place that will appreciate your talents?


Whew.

That's a good question about continuing to work for them. This Saturday is my last day to work for them till the new year. I am planning on selling a lot. As much as possible. So, when I write up the report and send it to them they can say f***** A, she's a royal pain in the arse, but man, she's working it.

With that said, I will wait and see what happens. They have not been awful people, they're just scatter-brained and disorganized and have low-attention span's. They just haven't quite figured out how to have good follow through on practically everything they do.
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TTH
 
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Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2007 03:10 pm
Gala wrote:
Selfish? I do not agree.

The bonus was implied. Why would I ask them about it once they've implied I am getting one?
I understand it was implied but, the amount wasn't discussed by what you post. Seems like a misunderstanding imo. You thought you deserved more than $50.00, which I can understand. If you would of went straight to the person who decides on the amount of the bonus and been told right then the amount, then there would not of been this last minute disappointment. Just food for thought is all.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2007 04:21 pm
Gala wrote:
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:


so no desert then?


Desert (mispelled intentionally): I had a brandy, he a scotch on the rocks. That's when the brain picking began.


you got me, excuse the SP.
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Chai
 
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Reply Fri 21 Dec, 2007 05:41 pm
So Gala, why not tell them you're willing to get into management, and get them on the right track?

You could write your own ticket.
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Gala
 
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Reply Wed 26 Dec, 2007 09:21 am
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
Gala wrote:
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:


so no desert then?


Desert (mispelled intentionally): I had a brandy, he a scotch on the rocks. That's when the brain picking began.


you got me, excuse the SP.


It just occurred to me-- your definition of dessert might of meant something having to do with the swapping of bodily fluids rather than Tiramasu.

What's SP?
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Gala
 
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Reply Wed 26 Dec, 2007 09:24 am
Chai wrote:
So Gala, why not tell them you're willing to get into management, and get them on the right track?

You could write your own ticket.


I will let you know as soon as I know something. I haven't yet sent in the report but I did sell a lot on Saturday. In the meantime, i am snooping around for a nother PT job-- seeing what's available.
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Stray Cat
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jan, 2008 04:30 pm
That's a good idea, Gala. If you make a good impression during an interview, there's no telling what might happen, even if they don't select you.

Someone once gave me some good advice. If they like you, there's always the chance they could contact you in the future. Once they find out that the person they hired is a psychopath, they'll remember how nice you were! Smile

I actually had that happen once. I interviewed with a good company, but they decided to hire another candidate. Then, about two or three months later, they contacted me and told me the other person had some "personal issues" and they had to let her go. So they wondered if I was still interested in the job.

I had another job by then, so I couldn't take it, but it just shows you -- any contact you make can eventually lead to something.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jan, 2008 07:54 pm
OK, since this thread got resurrected from the dead, my bosses recently decided to hire this contractor. We need people with very specific experience so it is very difficult to hire full timers because they tend to come with baggage.

Anyway, this guy shows up, and for a week he cannot find his way in from the parking lot. He sits down at other people's desks. Gets lost going to the bathroom. We literally sent out search parties.

How do people like this survive?
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jan, 2008 08:00 pm
Hey, cj ... you have 20,000 posts. You are now a "Veteran Member."

Congrats!
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kickycan
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jan, 2008 08:44 pm
Crap! You beat me to it!

I will definitely beat you to 21,000 though. I will surpass you one
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kickycan
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jan, 2008 08:45 pm
day
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kickycan
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jan, 2008 08:45 pm
soon!
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jan, 2008 09:01 pm
I don't even know what this thread is about .... I just came here to congratulate cj (and thump Kicky while I was at it, of course).

Damn fine title, though.
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jan, 2008 09:02 pm
Sh*t, quick draw beat me to it....

Cool
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jan, 2008 09:27 pm
Okay, reading the thread now ...

Mame wrote:
Gala wrote:

I'd had a little daydream I was going to take a trip out to NM again during the Christmas/New year break, funded in part, by the fiction bonus.



Herein lies the real problem - she'd already spent the money. You know what they say, Gala, about counting chickens...


At least she didn't pay out a down payment on a swimming pool.
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