Money talks, bulls**** walks

Did I miss where other folks in her company got lavish treatment?

RH

Never count your bridges til you burn your chickens.

I think her attitude regarding this stinks, personally.

Mame wrote:

I think her attitude regarding this stinks, personally.

What exactly did Gala say that makes you say this?

I get that you were expecting more from what was implied, so I can certainly see why you're pissed.

cjhsa wrote:

I started my last job in the first week of December, 2006. They dinged me on my bonus - didn't count December because I wasn't here for the entire month. In a job where the bonus runs about 6%, one month = .5% = a heck of a lot more than a $50 gift card.

Needless to say I was a bit ticked. The company made some absurd amount of money last year yet the feel obligated to nickle and dime me.

The fact is, working for the man has always sucked and it's just getting worse.

I'm surprised you haven't shot the guy, cjhsa.

Gala:

To the issue at hand, I'm with CJ on you being a part-timer and only having been there 2.5 months. I might have given you more than $50, depending on how much you'd extended yourself, however, and I certainly wouldn't have told you in advance. So I get that you were expecting more from what was implied, so I can certainly see why you're pissed. But really, 2.5 months is nada. Now you know what he's like, you going to stick around?

And BTW, I have worked in the geological engineering and mining sector for years and it's not unheard of for geos and office staff to get bonuses ranging from $3000 - $30,000. I've received bonuses ranging from $6,000 to $11,000, myself, and I was in Marketing and IR and not a geotech. (The CEOs, etc can get $50,000 plus). Plus, raises are a given - decent ones. You are in the wrong business, girl - go find a mining company - megabucks.

Working for cheapskates isn't worth (excuse me but I must do this) "all the tea in China". groan.

Have to disagree with you, Chai.

In my experience, bonuses reflect tenure, hours worked, as well as effort. Considering that the usual probation period is 3 months, this worker, and a part-time employee at that, is not entitled to dick. She hasn't even passed her probation.

The fact that her supervisor TOLD her she'd get something is the issue. That was very unprofessional of him and led to her having (pretty high) expectations. For all she knows (and what DOES she know, having been there only a part-time 2.5 months??), $500 could be what the boss would get. And maybe it IS, so her $50 gift card is appropriate.

I think her attitude regarding this stinks, personally. What if she'd received nothing?

And bonuses are optional, not a requirement. She's already getting paid to do the work.

I definitely worked for some cheap bastards then, when selling cars. I don't think I mentioned how much the bonus was in the other thread, but $100, every year I was there. And I made far more than entry-level money. Our warranty rep gave me $300, and that wasn't expected in the least. And this wasn't a franchise store...I did the work of a sales, finance, and internet manager for being paid as a salesman. The owners saw a lot of profit with little overhead.

Actually I remember being the only one out of 4 who they didn't cut weekly salary on, because I made such a big deal. They wanted to cut it from $150/week to $100. All worked out in the end when I left anyway.

Then again, now working for two larger companies since I've left, they don't do xmas bonuses for the outside team. Granted they pay for everything that ties into the job, and they do give us gifts, buy nice dinners here & there during meetings, so there's definitely good moral.

Ummm. I think we are comparing apples and oranges here, ladies.
Small business is worlds away from big business.

As a one guy opeeration, I understand what Gala said about jumping in and wearing multiple hats.

I have been on both sides. It sounds as if she was listening to someone without the authority to "take care" of her, or a less than straightforward boss.

RH

Well, perhaps you like to read Linkat's thread about christmas bonuses,
as one of her workers did not receive what he anticipated, and she
is working for a huge corporation.

It is all based on work performance and good will, except in Chai's
company, of course.

Chai wrote:

ok mame, I'm wrong.

I have absolutley no idea how much a couple of hundred people in my immediate area got throughout the year, and don't have their exact date of hire, or how many hours they've worked this year, or any given year since their hire.

I also couldn't begin to tell you what each of these people have been rated each year as far as their performance evaluations, or how many times they've been either written up for not adhering to policies, or commended for being stellar.

you caught me, I'm just making all this stuff up as I go along.

You don't have to get snarky because we're disagreeing. Many companies don't even have a bonus program. Your company does what it does; others do what they do.

I'm merely commenting on her ingratitude of what she got as a probationary employee who is on part-time hours, and her supervisor's unprofessionalism.

In some companies I've worked for, we never even had a Christmas party, much less a bonus. She should be grateful to have a job.

This relates to the topic...

cj....I nowhere claimed that the corp I worked for was spending like drunken sailors, and were generous on the same par with everyone.

there are varying degrees of bonuses.....one is moderate one given to all. And I mean moderate. Like 500-600. If you didn't deserve that amount, you wouldn't still be working there by bonus time.

Then, the success of individual locations are rewarded to the people who work specifically at one site....if that site has met or exceed specifically set clinical outcomes, everyone is rewarded. another 500ish a head

Then, the manager of each location that met and exceeded these goals picks a certain percentage of people who consistantly went above and beyond. This year is was additional 2,000 for each of those people...1 out of 6 was picked.

Finally, there's a special award given to a very few that can basically walk on water....another 2 to 3 grand.

This money is not lightly thrown around, you work for it. If you are successful and you make your team successful, you are rewarded. In my business, that translates to literally keeping people alive.

That said, looking at what gala is saying...she sounds like someone who has totally owned her job, has gone above and beyond, is good enough to have her brain picked. and is apparantly quite an idea person.

That, in spite or her being their only 4 months, deserved recognition.

It all boils down to you get what you pay for.

Gala wrote:

I'd had a little daydream I was going to take a trip out to NM again during the Christmas/New year break, funded in part, by the fiction bonus.

Herein lies the real problem - she'd already spent the money. You know what they say, Gala, about counting chickens...

Mame wrote:

She should be grateful to have a job.

You know, this is why I do so little posting and stick to the Word Game and Trivia threads.

Rockhead wrote:

Ummm. I think we are comparing apples and oranges here, ladies.
Small business is worlds away from big business.

As a one guy opeeration, I understand what Gala said about jumping in and wearing multiple hats.

I have been on both sides. It sounds as if she was listening to someone without the authority to "take care" of her, or a less than straightforward boss.

RH

Defintely jumping in and taking on many different tasks. And, they didn't have to ask about most things, I just covered it. One request asked of me was to travel way out of my area to a store my boss had meant to get to when in the area, but wasn't able to.

I went and sold a lot, I mean a lot. And I could tell by the guy's reaction to the sales, he said "looks like things went pretty well." Pretty well? S***.

What he did tell me later on, that my sales for that store were higher than his and the other guys-- even after they'd done a sweep of the Mid Atlantic area in the Fall.

When he showed up here in mid November and wanted to take me out to dinner, I tried to get out of it. In the end I went, but the evening proceeded as I suspected: It was more for him than it was for me. As he put it later on "I got a chance to pick your brain."