Why Every Woman Should Carry a Gun

Hey, I just said consider the 9mm... I recommended the .40 for lots of reasons. Plenty of power, lots of loads available, and relatively inexpensive.

Heck Montana, if you want to go King Kong get a Glock 20 in 10mm, then shoot .40's through it at the range (those 10mm shells cost about $1.25 each and you can put the .40's through with no modification to the gun).

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There is a greater degree of probability
that when called upon in a personal emergency,
a revolver will be mechanically functional.

Automatics can be fun at the range
( I own a few of them; not many )
but I 'd not like to have my life depend on one working properly.

I 've had and seen too much jamming in automatics.

Tho saving money might be considered qua your ammo
at the range, I hope that u will not be influenced by
financial considerations in choice of defensive ammo.
As far as preparedness for self defense is concerned: NOTHING IS TOO GOOD.

When challenged by a predator
( as Groucho Marx used to say ),
u need to " step right up and play you bet your life. "

David

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Hey guys, thanks for the info. Couldn't get in here for a few days, so I'm gonna check out the sites you gave me cj and keep looking around.
After reading your posts, I'm back on the ladysmith as it looks like something I could handle and with the small hand issue, would fit well.

David, I never even thought about a lighter gun having more of a kick and what you said makes sense.

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OmSigDAVID wrote:

Montana wrote:
Ok, so if it's got a good kick, I may want to try something else, but nothing that has a high failure rate. I wouldn't feel secure with that.

I still have quite a bit of strength in that arm and I'm gonna get back to the weights and work on it.

I can't see that Ladysmith having that much of a kick and I think I could handle it. I really like it a lot!

44 mag is out of the question

Agreed.
Dirty Harry only wanted one to chase down bad guys,
because that was his JOB; u need not be concerned with that.
In my vu, that extra power is counterproductive.

However, u might consider a .44 special.

In any case, I have worked out with the .38 LadySmith
at a gunnery range, and did not find the kick to be offensive;
not hard to get used to.
David

Yeah, my Dirty Harry days are over, but my LadySmith days may be beginning Laughing

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Montana wrote:

David, I never even thought about a lighter gun having more of a kick and what you said makes sense.

Recoil in pistols is a weird topic and "kick" sometimes correlates more to the mechanical nature of a pistol than to anything else. Particularly in semiautomatic pistols, if any two metal parts HIT eachother when firing, that can produce more noticable kick than the real factors.

Normal and common caliber pistols generally don't have enough recoil to worry about.

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Thanks gunga :-D

Taking notes.

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Some interesting vids.

http://s104.photobucket.com/albums/m167/tharmsen/Video/?action=view&current=limp_wrist_test_2_0001.flv

http://s104.photobucket.com/albums/m167/tharmsen/Video/?action=view&current=slow_motion_sig.flv

http://s104.photobucket.com/albums/m167/tharmsen/Video/?action=view&current=glock_slow_motion.flv

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Montana-A lot of police department issues were the SW model 28 , a .357 cylinder. Its readily available at dealers for a reasonble price (300$ and under). I, like David appreciate the foolproofness of a cylinder pistol.
Seems like every police dept in our area were issued Glocks in the 90's , so they retired these SW 28's.
Price is always an issue.

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Thanks Farmer. It's really nice that I have you guys to get all this advice from.

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cjhsa wrote:

Some interesting vids.

http://s104.photobucket.com/albums/m167/tharmsen/Video/?action=view&current=limp_wrist_test_2_0001.flv

http://s104.photobucket.com/albums/m167/tharmsen/Video/?action=view&current=slow_motion_sig.flv

http://s104.photobucket.com/albums/m167/tharmsen/Video/?action=view&current=glock_slow_motion.flv

What's the significance of the limp wrist test? Would the Beretta and Glock function differently being gripped regularly?

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I'm not going to look at more videos; they just take too long to load.

Some autos, especially those of the blowback design will not reload themselves if held gently/limp wristed. The hand, elbow, and what-have-you adsorb recoil which is needed to cycle the mechanism. I once lent a Walther PPK in the .380 cal to a friend, and advised her to practice. She reported a continuous series of failures. Using the same ammunition, that gun experienced exactly zero failures in my hands.

I suppose I might back off from my support of autos for just this reason. They seem to take a bit more practice, though I would like to see everyone with any kind of gun get some sort of basic training.

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Ahhh

Thanks again for a very informative post, roger.

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Montana wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:
Montana wrote:
Ok, so if it's got a good kick, I may want to try something else, but nothing that has a high failure rate. I wouldn't feel secure with that.

I still have quite a bit of strength in that arm and I'm gonna get back to the weights and work on it.

I can't see that Ladysmith having that much of a kick and I think I could handle it. I really like it a lot!

44 mag is out of the question

Agreed.
Dirty Harry only wanted one to chase down bad guys,
because that was his JOB; u need not be concerned with that.
In my vu, that extra power is counterproductive.

However, u might consider a .44 special.

In any case, I have worked out with the .38 LadySmith
at a gunnery range, and did not find the kick to be offensive;
not hard to get used to.
David

Yeah, my Dirty Harry days are over,
but my LadySmith days may be beginning

U give me a warm feeling of having done something good, Montana.
So much of what we post n argue is theoretical ( around 100% ),
such that, in contrast,
I am glad if my posting actually accomplished some good in the real world.

I hope that u 'll keep us up-to-date.
David

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Here 's an article for your consideration,
concerning .38 ammunition,
at your leisure.

http://www.firearmstactical.com/briefs12.htm

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OmSigDAVID wrote:

Montana wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Montana wrote:
Ok, so if it's got a good kick, I may want to try something else, but nothing that has a high failure rate. I wouldn't feel secure with that.

I still have quite a bit of strength in that arm and I'm gonna get back to the weights and work on it.

I can't see that Ladysmith having that much of a kick and I think I could handle it. I really like it a lot!

44 mag is out of the question

Agreed.
Dirty Harry only wanted one to chase down bad guys,
because that was his JOB; u need not be concerned with that.
In my vu, that extra power is counterproductive.

However, u might consider a .44 special.

In any case, I have worked out with the .38 LadySmith
at a gunnery range, and did not find the kick to be offensive;
not hard to get used to.
David

Yeah, my Dirty Harry days are over,
but my LadySmith days may be beginning

U give me a warm feeling of having done something good, Montana.
So much of what we post n argue is theoretical ( around 100% ),
such that, in contrast,
I am glad if my posting actually accomplished some good in the real world.

I hope that u 'll keep us up-to-date.
David

I know we don't always see eye to eye David, but I do my very best not to judge.

I agree with your (and cjhsa) arguements on self defense. I always did, even though I think you both take things a little far with it sometimes.

You're ok in my book David and I'm very secure with taking your advice on this matter.

I haven't had time to go through all this stuff yet, but when I do, I'll have more questions, if you don't mind.

This is not something I take lightly, so I want to be sure I get one that's right for me.

Thanks again and now I'm getting all warm inside. I do that a lot Cool

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An innocent bystander was killed in Toronto this past weekend by a gunman that tried to kill a bouncer in a hotel.

The killer had a handgun permit and was trained in the use of firearms. The poor innocent fella is still dead and the guy with the legal permit and gun training is in jail. Hopefully, he will get life.

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In case anybody missed it....,.

The 44mag is basically meant for self defense in grizzly-bear country; what you observe in Dirty Harry movies is a misuse of technology.

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Intrepid wrote:

An innocent bystander was killed in Toronto this past weekend by a gunman that tried to kill a bouncer in a hotel.

The killer had a handgun permit and was trained in the use of firearms. The poor innocent fella is still dead and the guy with the legal permit and gun training is in jail. Hopefully, he will get life.

I hope so!

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Intrepid wrote:

An innocent bystander was killed in Toronto this past weekend by a gunman that tried to kill a bouncer in a hotel.

The killer had a handgun permit and was trained in the use of firearms. The poor innocent fella is still dead and the guy with the legal permit and gun training is in jail. Hopefully, he will get life.

Wud it have been BETTER
if someone with a permit to drive a car,
a graduate of a safe driving school,
had tried to run over the bouncer with his car,
and clipped a few pedestrians along with him ?

Wud THAT make u feel better, Intrepid ?

Then wud u blame TRUCK POSSESSION ?
or
if he had shot the bystander with an ARROW,
aiming at the same bouncer, wud that have been NICER, Intrepid ?

The repressionists want to remove guns,
saying they are sometimes used to facilitate crime.
They fail to understand that the actual weapon is the HUMAN MIND,
whose cleverness has not been controlled nor restrained (even in prison).
This mind expresses itself perseveringly, into the manifestation of its felt needs or desires,
and it has FOREVER to do the job that it selects
(e.g., the art of the gunsmith/merchant). Prohibition is futile.
David

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gungasnake wrote:

In case anybody missed it....,.

The 44mag is basically meant for self defense in grizzly-bear country;
what you observe in Dirty Harry movies is a misuse of technology.

Very true.
Animals r in a different class altogether.

I know someone who had to shoot a wild boar 3 times
with a .50 caliber revolver ( purportedly triple the power of .44 magnum )
to put him down.

Upon opening him ( cleaning for consumption ),
he found that both lungs had been blown out,
and he had still been running, until he got one in the head.

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