What is so bad about Gov. Spitzer's plan? Hillary is Right!

I suggest you go visit some parts of Mexico. Or just watch news programs like the recent ones on CNN about Korea, or Afganistan, etc. Do you not understand about ignorance, lack of education, medical care, having no resources to fall back on? "Do the best they can"....... unbelievable! You don't know squat about what you're talking about. Inform yourself, then express opinions.

We all know that you're an insensitive, eccentric, idiosyncratic, egocentric old fart. But I love you anyway because you make me laugh.

Either I'm too sensitive
Or else I'm getting soft.

What purpose could there be for a method of reducing everything to one simple solution.......obey the law? Lazinessness, insecurity, paranoia, selfishness, limited mental capacity, limited tolerance of ambiguity, denial of ambivilence, insensitivity to the needs others, stubborness........meanness?

Lola wrote:

I suggest you go visit some parts of Mexico. Or just watch news programs like the recent ones on CNN about Korea, or Afganistan, etc. Do you not understand about ignorance, lack of education, medical care, having no resources to fall back on? "Do the best they can"....... unbelievable! You don't know squat about what you're talking about. Inform yourself, then express opinions.

So what is the bottom line of your argument here?

I take it you are talking about North Korea by the way? So because conditions are so bad in places like Mexico, Korea, Afghanistan, and other countries, you would advocate open borders for anyone and everyone from a large list of countries around the world, is that right?

And because I suggest people in other countries that are worse off than here cannot all come here, I don't know squat? What do I not know that you are referring to here? Where did you get the impression that I am totally unaware or don't know squat about living conditions in other countries? How are living conditions in other countries supposed to somehow totally determine our immigration policy?

I am sorry to be such an apparent thorn in your side, but it would help for you to actually make a case for what you apparently advocate. So far, you seem to be arguing that because people are so bad off in other countries, we should therefore ignore all immigration laws that we have on the books and essentially just ignore the borders from now on. And anyone that advocates enforcing current immigration law is ignorant and heartless?

okie wrote:

Lola wrote:

I suggest you go visit some parts of Mexico. Or just watch news programs like the recent ones on CNN about Korea, or Afganistan, etc. Do you not understand about ignorance, lack of education, medical care, having no resources to fall back on? "Do the best they can"....... unbelievable! You don't know squat about what you're talking about. Inform yourself, then express opinions.

So what is the bottom line of your argument here?

I take it you are talking about North Korea by the way? So because conditions are so bad in places like Mexico, Korea, Afghanistan, and other countries, you would advocate open borders for anyone and everyone from a large list of countries around the world, is that right?

And because I suggest people in other countries that are worse off than here cannot all come here, I don't know squat? What do I not know that you are referring to here? Where did you get the impression that I am totally unaware or don't know squat about living conditions in other countries? How are living conditions in other countries supposed to somehow totally determine our immigration policy?

I am sorry to be such an apparent thorn in your side, but it would help for you to actually make a case for what you apparently advocate. So far, you seem to be arguing that because people are so bad off in other countries, we should therefore ignore all immigration laws that we have on the books and essentially just ignore the borders from now on. And anyone that advocates enforcing current immigration law is ignorant and heartless?

Read my posts carefully, then get back to me. The answers to all your questions are there. I can see why you might not have understood Hillary's answer in the debate. You weren't paying attention to what she said.

Read my posts carefully, then get back to me. The answers to all your questions are there. I can see why you might not have understood Hillary's answer in the debate. You weren't paying attention to what she said.

In answer to the question posed in the title of this thread, it was a lousy idea, and most people knew it from the start, except a few people such as Hillary of course.

By the way, Hillary's staff probably told / ordered Spitzer to withdraw the plan before the debate. Do not embarass Hillary, that is Rule #1, got that, Spitzer?

Fine, cyclops, I am not that devoted to the Guiliani candidacy, so it wouldn't disappoint me. It might clear up the field a little more to give another candidate a better chance to emerge as the front runner.