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If Jesus died to forgive us, then why is there a Hell?

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 17 Oct, 2014 03:12 pm
@MWal,
Doesn't matter you claim you're not a christian. Believing in any god is still irrational.
MWal
 
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Fri 17 Oct, 2014 03:15 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Prove it. Such a substantial claim needs substantial evidence. And happiness only supports the notion of a God.
cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 17 Oct, 2014 04:29 pm
@MWal,
It's almost impossible to prove a negative. Logic 101.

There is no way I can produce 'something' that doesn't exist. Can you?
Prove your god exists.

As I stated earlier, you are irrational.
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ir·ra·tion·al
i(r)ˈraSH(ə)nəl/
adjective
1.
not logical or reasonable.
synonyms: unreasonable, illogical, groundless, baseless, unfounded, unjustifiable; More
MWal
 
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Fri 17 Oct, 2014 05:19 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I already said happiness and satisfaction are heavenly things. Proof there can be a God.
cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 17 Oct, 2014 06:51 pm
@MWal,
Your statement makes no sense. "Heaven" doesn't exist. If it does, PROVE IT!
Frank Apisa
 
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Fri 17 Oct, 2014 07:01 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Your statement makes no sense. "Heaven" doesn't exist. If it does, PROVE IT!


If it doesn't, ci...prove it. And if you cannot prove it...you ought really not to be asserting it the way you are.
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MWal
 
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Fri 17 Oct, 2014 07:35 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I am happy, I am satisfied, I love, there's hope, and for Pete's sake I have been is Heavens midst. All this is proof. Heaven is peace of mind and a state of mind. Heaven is safe within the imagination.
Setanta
 
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Sat 18 Oct, 2014 04:08 am
@MWal,
Imagination is the key word here--and yours is vivid.
Germlat
 
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Sat 18 Oct, 2014 05:52 am
@ebrown p,
ebrown p wrote:

(Sorry I came late) on pets:

Dogs say "He feeds me, he looks out for me, he cleans up after me, he cares for me. He must be God."

Cats say "He feeds me, he looks out for me, he cleans up after me, he cares for me. I must be God."

Too funny! Laughing
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MWal
 
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Sat 18 Oct, 2014 10:45 am
@Setanta,
Just imagine...
Germlat
 
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Sat 18 Oct, 2014 10:48 am
@MWal,
MWal wrote:

Just imagine...

I think...if you're bat-crap crazy but happy....well..Kudos.
MWal
 
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Sat 18 Oct, 2014 10:52 am
@Germlat,
Lmao have a good day
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neologist
 
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Sat 18 Oct, 2014 06:25 pm
Question:
Quote:
If Jesus died to forgive us, then why is there a Hell?
Answer:
There isn't.
cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 18 Oct, 2014 07:10 pm
@neologist,
Neither is there a heaven. Heaven is here on earth; one only needs to seek it in their hearts and mind. The beauty of nature on this planet is beyond outstanding.

Many people think heaven is found after death. There is only void.
Frank Apisa
 
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Sat 18 Oct, 2014 08:04 pm
Actually, there may be a Heaven and a Hell.

Nothing can logically be put forth to say such things are impossible.

Asserting that they do exist, however, is gratuitous.

Saying there is a Heaven or a Hell...or that there is no Heaven or Hell...are just blind guesses about the REALITY of existence.
Krumple
 
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Sun 19 Oct, 2014 02:43 am
@MWal,
MWal wrote:

I've told you this I'm not Christian. I only follow reason. Reason for God.. I want it simple as that really . So I search for truth and knowledge. Not for Christianity.


No, you don't search for reason because your comments are bullshit. You claim happiness existence is due to god's existence. How can you prove this? It is nothing more than your conjecture because you desperately want that to be true. Because if that were true then the inverse would also need to be true for it to make sense. Without a god then happiness would not exist? Bullshit.

Happiness is built upon conditions. All emotions are built upon conditions. When those conditions are met then you feel the emotion.
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neologist
 
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Sun 19 Oct, 2014 09:19 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Neither is there a heaven. Heaven is here on earth. . .
One or the other for sure, right? Nothing like hedging your bets. Laughing
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neologist
 
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Sun 19 Oct, 2014 09:26 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
. . .Nothing can logically be put forth to say such things are impossible.
Happy to hear you say that Frank. So then, it's possible that my direction on the knowledge of good and bad is correct. We should spend some time extrapolating the consequences of that. You may be pleased.

But, meanwhile. . .
Go Jints!
Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 19 Oct, 2014 01:52 pm
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
. . .Nothing can logically be put forth to say such things are impossible.
Happy to hear you say that Frank. So then, it's possible that my direction on the knowledge of good and bad is correct.


I'd love to hear you make the connection...one I cannot see.

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We should spend some time extrapolating the consequences of that. You may be pleased.


Tell me what you see to be the connection...and I will consider it.

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But, meanwhile. . .
Go Jints!


From your lips to...ahhh...

...yeah, Go Jints!
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MWal
 
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Mon 20 Oct, 2014 10:29 am
If there's a hell its on God consciousness, which might be hard for our inner peace to bare especially when everyone follows the same natural laws including virtues like logic, reason, peace, and knowledge. God is made to submit us to him and one another.
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