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Blatham is a crypto Nazi.

Blatham is a crypto Nazi.

In many ways it all comes down to the 'group values', to which Layman so eloquently referred. The problem, of course, is that if you presume to be able or empowered to make group judgments, you can also make group punishments and all that follows. That of course was a hallmark of Nazism and Marxim, and it led to mass extermination of Jews, Ukranian pesants and Chinese landowners.

Blatham is a crypto Nazi.

Is there some historical point you fellas can indicate where speaking of racial injustices flipped from helpful to unhelpful? Would that be nationwide?

... ought this one to include the voices of those of us who aren't white?

Observations and opinions about some characteristics or central tendencies of some such groups are one thing, judging the character or worh of an individual person or his/her status with respect to government judicial or other action is quite another.

While you may have failed to notice it, this was all in the contest of a discussion with Blatham that directly related to the making of categorical government judgments & policies based on group, not individual identity.

I don't make ex cathedra statements of any kind

I don't make ex cathedra statements of any kind

This one made laugh! Thanks, George!

How would you propose to have a functioning government that makes policies based on individual identity, George?

Do you propose to do away with "categorical government policies" based on age group, like regulations about child labor, or gambling, or drinking, or driving, or buying guns, or enlisting? Because categorical government policies based on group are crypto-Nazism?

Now and again, a brief pop-in to this place nets you a gem

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This one made laugh! Thanks, George!

georgeob1 wrote:

layman wrote:

If the desired end of eliminating "racism" would be the establishment of an atmosphere and culture where skin color is irrelevant and never even mentioned or thought of in terms of social interactions, and such, then that goal will NEVER be attained with the Blathys of the world running around.

These race-baiters try to reduce every conversation to racial differences. They EMPHASIZE such differences as they may imagine to exist 24/7.

Exactly !!

The cure for racism is most certainly not more of it. The cure begins with the prevasive choice, by individuals and government alike, to, as Martin Luther King put it, judge others by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin. ( indeed, given the variety of shades and colorations out there, that appears to be a comically meaningless and hopeless task anyway)

George, when you see data that shows that a) black people are more likely to get harsher prison sentences than white people for same/similar crimes, or b) white sounding names like Tanner are more likely to get job interviews than black sounding names like Shaquille even when the resumes are letter for letter identical ..... well, what do you purpose the nation should try to do about that?

Let me send off a letter to Bibi Netanyahu and I'll let you know his answer.

They have the money, the lobbyists, the marketing people, the capacity to fund campaigns to a level that citizens cannot compete with, etc.

We should never forget this dark period of the German history,