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Bush Supporters' Aftermath Thread V

 
 
McTag
 
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Reply Sun 9 Dec, 2007 11:41 am
From yesterday's paper:

"Politicians are always banging on about "openness" and "transparency", and I feel that George Bush has just made a great stride in that direction. You'll recall that, in order to get us into the war on Iraq, weak intelligence was wildly exaggerated and in some cases invented. Now the Americans have published intelligence assessments that say Iran stopped developing nuclear weapons four years ago. Bush's response to this inconvenient fact is to announce that he will ignore it. You could say that this is better than lying. On the other hand, you could argue that lying at least indicated a certain respect for the voters; by contrast Bush has openly and transparently told the world - and his own intelligence operatives - that he doesn't care a fig for what they believe. How candid can you get?"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,,2224273,00.html
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Sun 9 Dec, 2007 12:30 pm
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QJgfl8jxyw0
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McTag
 
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Reply Sun 9 Dec, 2007 02:06 pm
Surprising reply following a post about your President lying to the nation and waging war on a false prospectus- Hillary's failed Health Bill and Bill's romantic proclivities.
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 9 Dec, 2007 02:36 pm
Question of the day, over there at fair and balanced...
http://static.crooksandliars.com/2007/12/foxsex1.jpg
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 9 Dec, 2007 02:43 pm
The only fair and balanced on that tube is the "S&P down 4.88 points."
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Sun 9 Dec, 2007 06:27 pm
McTag wrote:
Surprising reply following a post about your President lying to the nation and waging war on a false prospectus- Hillary's failed Health Bill and Bill's romantic proclivities.


I didn't read your post, McT.

Still surprised?
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Sun 9 Dec, 2007 06:29 pm
It seems Crooks & Liars has overtaken salon.com as your favorite source for material, blatham.
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 9 Dec, 2007 08:10 pm
Ticomaya wrote:
McTag wrote:
Surprising reply following a post about your President lying to the nation and waging war on a false prospectus- Hillary's failed Health Bill and Bill's romantic proclivities.


I didn't read your post, McT.

Still surprised?


"A lie can make it half way around the world before the truth has time to put its boots on."

Mark Twain

Tico's stock in trade.
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 9 Dec, 2007 08:14 pm
Ticomaya wrote:
It seems Crooks & Liars has overtaken salon.com as your favorite source for material, blatham.


Unlike you, Tico, Bernie heads straight for the truth. You take the easy route, off flying with and offering cover for the lies. How DO you function?
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blatham
 
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Reply Mon 10 Dec, 2007 02:11 pm
It is just not to be believed how far into stupid-land the WSJ editorial page can go.


Quote:
"[T]he ultimate responsibility for this fiasco lies with Mr. Bush. Too often he has appointed, or tolerated, officials who oppose his agenda, and failed to discipline them even when they have worked against his policies."
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blatham
 
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Reply Mon 10 Dec, 2007 02:38 pm
aftermath

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Blotter/abc_jones_071210_ms.jpg

Quote:
A Houston, Texas woman says she was gang-raped by Halliburton/KBR coworkers in Baghdad, and the company and the U.S. government are covering up the incident.

Victim: Gang Rape Cover-Up by U.S., Halliburton/KBR Jamie Leigh Jones, now 22, says that after she was raped by multiple men at a KBR camp in the Green Zone, the company put her under guard in a shipping container with a bed and warned her that if she left Iraq for medical treatment, she'd be out of a job.

"Don't plan on working back in Iraq. There won't be a position here, and there won't be a position in Houston," Jones says she was told.

In a lawsuit filed in federal court against Halliburton and its then-subsidiary KBR, Jones says she was held in the shipping container for at least 24 hours without food or water by KBR, which posted armed security guards outside her door, who would not let her leave.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=3977702&page=1
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 10 Dec, 2007 02:45 pm
Sad story, wrong thread.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 10 Dec, 2007 03:01 pm
McGentrix wrote:
Sad story, wrong thread.


Yep ... and anyone with integrity would agree.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 10 Dec, 2007 03:25 pm
Yup, integrity like those Halliburton rapists and Bush.
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 10 Dec, 2007 06:01 pm
Interesting posts by Walter here and directly below.

Something that struck me. On the partisan questions of Bush job approval and which party is best trusted on the military, households with a member in the family or even Iraq have apparently gone a long way along with the rest of the population, away from Bush and towards the Democrats -- but nevertheless, they still clearly have a stronger lean towards the Republican 'brand' than other Americans do.

On the substantive question of Iraq policy, however - was the war worth it, and when should the troops return home? - on that count, there is no difference whatsoever between these military families and others. They are just as likely to think the war wasnt worth it, and that the troops should return pronto or at least within a year.

The logical conclusion, then, must be that there must be a large chunk of military families that have a brand loyalty to the Republicans, but are just as resentful of the war as other Americans. No wonder, then, that members of the military are donating more money to Ron Paul than to any other Republican presidential candidate - by a mile.
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McTag
 
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Reply Tue 11 Dec, 2007 03:29 am
Ticomaya wrote:
McTag wrote:
Surprising reply following a post about your President lying to the nation and waging war on a false prospectus- Hillary's failed Health Bill and Bill's romantic proclivities.


I didn't read your post, McT.



Ooooh, you little liar. You did too.
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McTag
 
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Reply Tue 11 Dec, 2007 03:35 am


Sad but predictable, whenever anyone posts an example of how poor this President is, the kneejerk response is with some parochial Democrat v Republical domestic issue.

I'm more concerned with the damage he has done to his office and his country's standing in the world, the needless deaths and damage overseas, and his administration's clueless approach to its task.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 11 Dec, 2007 08:09 am
McTag wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:
McTag wrote:
Surprising reply following a post about your President lying to the nation and waging war on a false prospectus- Hillary's failed Health Bill and Bill's romantic proclivities.


I didn't read your post, McT.



Ooooh, you little liar. You did too.


No, and I still haven't read it, actually.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 11 Dec, 2007 08:14 am
McTag wrote:


Sad but predictable, whenever anyone posts an example of how poor this President is, the kneejerk response is with some parochial Democrat v Republical domestic issue.

I'm more concerned with the damage he has done to his office and his country's standing in the world, the needless deaths and damage overseas, and his administration's clueless approach to its task.


My wife sent that youtube link to me, and I promptly posted it on the Bush Supporters' thread. (My wife's a much bigger politico than I am, smarty-pants.) So while you are free to imagine I posted it in some calculated way in response to something you did, I did not.

And further, while my post was certainly on-topic, without reading your post I assume it was not.
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McTag
 
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Reply Tue 11 Dec, 2007 09:45 am
Ticomaya wrote:
McTag wrote:


Sad but predictable, whenever anyone posts an example of how poor this President is, the kneejerk response is with some parochial Democrat v Republical domestic issue.

I'm more concerned with the damage he has done to his office and his country's standing in the world, the needless deaths and damage overseas, and his administration's clueless approach to its task.


My wife sent that youtube link to me, and I promptly posted it on the Bush Supporters' thread. (My wife's a much bigger politico than I am, smarty-pants.) So while you are free to imagine I posted it in some calculated way in response to something you did, I did not.

And further, while my post was certainly on-topic, without reading your post I assume it was not.



The thread had been dormant for days, and so I concluded that your post was prompted by mine, following straight on as it did. Silly of me to think Bush supporters might come here for enlightenment.

If you did not read it, you should. It could be the first step in the rehabilitation of you and Mrs T.
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