Fred Thompson... unclear on the concept?

they are "illegally" sneaking into THIS country. fyi, that's why we call them "illegal aliens."

i've never seen a tv for $10... and a large portion of these people can barely afford food or basic needs.

so give them all their $10 tv... are all these spanish channels you speak of on broadcast cable? NO.

keep diggin.

This thread is about American citizens... not about illegal immigrants.

My point is that Fred Thompson-- and the Republicans in general, are spitting in the face of Spanish speaking American voters (and there are millions of Spanish speaking American citizens).

The immigration issue, the English only issue and many other issues important to ethnic minorities; like affirmative action and health care, will be decided by elected officials.

This is why it is very important to me that the right people are elected to Congress and the White House.

And... this is why issues like English only ballots that upset voters in minority communities... and why statements that are taken as racist by many Americans, have such effect.

When we get legislation passed that we like because we win elections since our side is motivated and unified... it will make it all worth it.

ebrown_p wrote:

This thread is about American citizens... not about illegal immigrants.

My point is that Fred Thompson-- and the Republicans in general, are spitting in the face of Spanish speaking American voters (and there are millions of Spanish speaking American citizens).

The immigration issue, the English only issue and many other issues important to ethnic minorities; like affirmative action and health care, will be decided by elected officials.

This is why it is very important to me that the right people are elected to Congress and the White House.

And... this is why issues like English only ballots that upset voters in minority communities... and why statements that are taken as racist by many Americans, have such effect.

When we get legislation passed that we like because we win elections since our side is motivated and unified... it will make it all worth it.

That's a joke, right?

woiyo wrote:

ebrown_p wrote:

This thread is about American citizens... not about illegal immigrants.

My point is that Fred Thompson-- and the Republicans in general, are spitting in the face of Spanish speaking American voters (and there are millions of Spanish speaking American citizens).

The immigration issue, the English only issue and many other issues important to ethnic minorities; like affirmative action and health care, will be decided by elected officials.

This is why it is very important to me that the right people are elected to Congress and the White House.

And... this is why issues like English only ballots that upset voters in minority communities... and why statements that are taken as racist by many Americans, have such effect.

When we get legislation passed that we like because we win elections since our side is motivated and unified... it will make it all worth it.

That's a joke, right?

Why would it be a joke?

It seems that we have one party here in America who is focused on inclusion, and one which focuses on excluding people who aren't the same as them. Which one do you think is going to get more votes in the long run?

Jeez

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

woiyo wrote:

ebrown_p wrote:

This thread is about American citizens... not about illegal immigrants.

My point is that Fred Thompson-- and the Republicans in general, are spitting in the face of Spanish speaking American voters (and there are millions of Spanish speaking American citizens).

The immigration issue, the English only issue and many other issues important to ethnic minorities; like affirmative action and health care, will be decided by elected officials.

This is why it is very important to me that the right people are elected to Congress and the White House.

And... this is why issues like English only ballots that upset voters in minority communities... and why statements that are taken as racist by many Americans, have such effect.

When we get legislation passed that we like because we win elections since our side is motivated and unified... it will make it all worth it.

That's a joke, right?

Why would it be a joke?

It seems that we have one party here in America who is focused on inclusion, and one which focuses on excluding people who aren't the same as them. Which one do you think is going to get more votes in the long run?

Jeez

Cycloptichorn

Stop, please.... you're obviously joking.

BOTH parties ignore the rule of law. That has to be obvious since we already have immigration laws on the books that no one is enforcing.

BOTH parties are behind special interest groups and against working class citizens.

Stop the joking around and get serious.

If you don't like what BOTH parties are doing... then don't vote for either party. That is fine with me.

My perspective is that the current immigration laws are unworkable. I want congress to fix them rather make the current mess even worse.

The Democrats are much more likely to fix the current laws then the Republicans are. This is one of the reasons why I will vote for, donate to, and work for Democratic candidates.

The way we will resolve this issue for once and for all is to elected more Democrats to office.

If you disagree with this, then the fact that you don't support either party is fine with me.

There happens to be a number of immigrants here, in Mo, and there are no spanish broadcast stations. There are also none in Va (unless added VERY recently).

And, why exactly does it offend anyone that a ballot only be in English? It is the national language and all.

KUKC-LP is a low-powered broadcast television station in Kansas City, Missouri and is licensed to the city with offices in Overland Park, Kansas. KUKC is a licensed Univision network affiliate and the only Spanish-language television station in the area. It is owned and operated by Equity Broadcasting, who programs KUKC via satellite from its headquarters in Little Rock, Arkansas.

USAFHokie80 wrote:

There happens to be a number of immigrants here, in Mo, and there are no spanish broadcast stations. There are also none in Va (unless added VERY recently).

And, why exactly does it offend anyone that a ballot only be in English? It is the national language and all.

I don't think English is the 'official' language of America. I'm pretty sure we don't have any official language.

Further, are you counting Kansas City in Missouri?

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KUKC-LP is a low-powered broadcast television station in Kansas City, Missouri and is licensed to the city with offices in Overland Park, Kansas. KUKC is a licensed Univision network affiliate and the only Spanish-language television station in the area. It is owned and operated by Equity Broadcasting, who programs KUKC via satellite from its headquarters in Little Rock, Arkansas.

Univision, the largest spanish-only channel in America, is owned by Hallmark Greeting cards co., which is located in... Missouri.

It isn't a question of offense but one of equal access. Let's say that we have a 60 year old man who naturalized 5 years ago. His english is passable but not great. Would you rather have him be confused when voting, or have it very clearly written in a language he could understand?

Let me ask, why are you offended by the current system - one which is inclusive for different types of folks?

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

USAFHokie80 wrote:

There happens to be a number of immigrants here, in Mo, and there are no spanish broadcast stations. There are also none in Va (unless added VERY recently).

And, why exactly does it offend anyone that a ballot only be in English? It is the national language and all.

I don't think English is the 'official' language of America. I'm pretty sure we don't have any official language.

Further, are you counting Kansas City in Missouri?

Quote:

KUKC-LP is a low-powered broadcast television station in Kansas City, Missouri and is licensed to the city with offices in Overland Park, Kansas. KUKC is a licensed Univision network affiliate and the only Spanish-language television station in the area. It is owned and operated by Equity Broadcasting, who programs KUKC via satellite from its headquarters in Little Rock, Arkansas.

I stand corrected! There is a station in KC. However, access to a single station (and point of view) doesn't really offer all there is to know.

Quote:

Univision, the largest spanish-only channel in America, is owned by Hallmark Greeting cards co., which is located in... Missouri.

It isn't a question of offense but one of equal access. Let's say that we have a 60 year old man who naturalized 5 years ago. His english is passable but not great. Would you rather have him be confused when voting, or have it very clearly written in a language he could understand?

Let me ask, why are you offended by the current system - one which is inclusive for different types of folks?

Cycloptichorn

I'm not "offended" by the current system. I'm offended at the idea of entitlement that people have. I couldn't go to another country and bitch and moan because they don't speak MY language. It should be expected of me to learn the prevalent language of that nation.

The problem is that things like this cannot be equally applied. Are we to provide ballots in the native language of every possible immigrant?

So you really think that all immigrants, for the sake of being immigrants, will vote dem ?