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VICTORY! Supreme Court Rejects School Race Plans

 
 
Thomas
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2007 07:01 am
Setanta wrote:
Only the Germans could paste together saw dust with blackstrap molasses and paving binder and call it "good bread."

That's not the bread we have. That's the bread we feed to the Americans, who couldn't tell the dfference anyway.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2007 07:02 am
The Chief (of course, I am a respecter of precedent)Justice apparently cannot decern the difference between a system (prior to Brown) which used race to EXCLUDE children and those systems which were part of the the present case which used race as one factor to INCLUDE children.

He should resign before he does any more damage.

Joe(people always wonder what it was like to live in the past, we are about to find out.)Nation
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Thomas
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2007 07:04 am
PS: Has anybody started a grown-up discussion about the decision itself yet somewhere? If so, I'd be grateful for a link, as I don't find it.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2007 07:07 am
Joe Nation wrote:
The Chief (of course, I am a respecter of precedent)Justice apparently cannot decern the difference between a system (prior to Brown) which used race to EXCLUDE children and those systems which were part of the the present case which used race as one factor to INCLUDE children.

He should resign before he does any more damage.

Joe(people always wonder what it was like to live in the past, we are about to find out.)Nation


Maybe the Chief Justice, as well as most of the human race, have come to realize that ANY form of discrimination is wrong and the only way to stop discrimination is to STOP DISCRIMINATION.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2007 07:09 am
Thomas wrote:
PS: Has anybody started a grown-up discussion about the decision itself yet somewhere? If so, I'd be grateful for a link, as I don't find it.


I don't think so--perhaps you could start one. Since it was Michael who started it, it did not generate into, but rather, began with racist overtones. He has, since then, of course, descended further into his racist hysteria. I suspect most people have shown up to poke the troll with sharp sticks.
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squinney
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2007 07:14 am
Beth, you are welcome to visit my country any time you like. You'll need to wear your deer skin dress dyed into a Scottish plaid though to honor my culture.

As fer them Germans... God DID give them Beer. We can't argue about that.
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2007 07:17 am
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Maybe the Chief Justice, as well as most of the human race, have come to realize that ANY form of discrimination is wrong and the only way to stop discrimination is to STOP DISCRIMINATION.


Oh that's a brilliant plan. I'd also add: "Best way to stop hating is to stop hating.... and best way to vacuum your house is to vacuum your house.... and Best way to eat pastrami is to eat pastrami..."

All is nicely laid out ahead. What a clear, brilliant strategy. Everything will be nice and easy from now on.

Rolling Eyes
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Thomas
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2007 07:17 am
Joe Nation wrote:
The Chief (of course, I am a respecter of precedent)Justice apparently cannot decern the difference between a system (prior to Brown) which used race to EXCLUDE children and those systems which were part of the the present case which used race as one factor to INCLUDE children.

What makes you think there is a constitutionally relevant difference? Inclusive or exclusive, the Supreme Court's equal protection jurisprudence compels that every race-based legal distinction must be narrowly tailored to serve a compelling government interest. In your opinion, what government interest was at stake in this case? Why was it compelling? And how was the school district's policy narrowly tailored to achieve it?
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2007 07:26 am
Thomas wrote:
Joe Nation wrote:
The Chief (of course, I am a respecter of precedent)Justice apparently cannot decern the difference between a system (prior to Brown) which used race to EXCLUDE children and those systems which were part of the the present case which used race as one factor to INCLUDE children.

What makes you think there is a constitutionally relevant difference? Inclusive or exclusive, the Supreme Court's equal protection jurisprudence compels that every race-based legal distinction must be narrowly tailored to serve a compelling government interest. In your opinion, what government interest was at stake in this case? Why was it compelling? And how was the school district's policy narrowly tailored to achieve it?


Good questions, Thomas. I hope this generates discussion.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2007 07:34 am
squinney wrote:
As fer them Germans... God DID give them Beer. We can't argue about that.


Yeah, and look what it got 'em.
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old europe
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2007 07:35 am
You mean the Oktoberfest?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2007 07:40 am
Among many more glaring examples of reprehensible public behavior (such as invading Poland at the drop of a hat), yes, Oktoberfest would be a good example.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2007 07:41 am
woiyo wrote:
Joe Nation wrote:
The Chief (of course, I am a respecter of precedent)Justice apparently cannot decern the difference between a system (prior to Brown) which used race to EXCLUDE children and those systems which were part of the the present case which used race as one factor to INCLUDE children.

He should resign before he does any more damage.

Joe(people always wonder what it was like to live in the past, we are about to find out.)Nation


Maybe the Chief Justice, as well as most of the human race, have come to realize that ANY form of discrimination is wrong and the only way to stop discrimination is to STOP DISCRIMINATION.


The irony is that Woiyo has to make this argument in this thread-- started by a member whose stated goal is to prevent race-mixing.

Does woiyo think Michael's goal is to stop discrimination?
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woiyo
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2007 07:43 am
dagmaraka wrote:
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Maybe the Chief Justice, as well as most of the human race, have come to realize that ANY form of discrimination is wrong and the only way to stop discrimination is to STOP DISCRIMINATION.


Oh that's a brilliant plan. I'd also add: "Best way to stop hating is to stop hating.... and best way to vacuum your house is to vacuum your house.... and Best way to eat pastrami is to eat pastrami..."

All is nicely laid out ahead. What a clear, brilliant strategy. Everything will be nice and easy from now on.

Rolling Eyes


Apparently, you feel that one's race carries more weight than their ability?

Apparently, you feel that even if one has superior talent, if they are the "wrong color", they should be discriminated against?

Somewhere in my mind, I recall learning that when race matters, you become a racist.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2007 07:45 am
ebrown_p wrote:
woiyo wrote:
Joe Nation wrote:
The Chief (of course, I am a respecter of precedent)Justice apparently cannot decern the difference between a system (prior to Brown) which used race to EXCLUDE children and those systems which were part of the the present case which used race as one factor to INCLUDE children.

He should resign before he does any more damage.

Joe(people always wonder what it was like to live in the past, we are about to find out.)Nation


Maybe the Chief Justice, as well as most of the human race, have come to realize that ANY form of discrimination is wrong and the only way to stop discrimination is to STOP DISCRIMINATION.


The irony is that Woiyo has to make this argument in this thread-- started by a member whose stated goal is to prevent race-mixing.

Does woiyo think Michael's goal is to stop discrimination?


Michael, like you, are irrelevant.

This happens to be an important issue. One you more than likely do not support.
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old europe
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2007 07:50 am
Setanta wrote:
Among many more glaring examples of reprehensible public behavior (such as invading Poland at the drop of a hat), yes, Oktoberfest would be a good example.


So do you think that Americans who come to Germany and consume absolutely incredible amounts of beer do so in order to learn the art of invading-countries-at-the-drop-of-a-hat?
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woiyo
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2007 07:51 am
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parados
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2007 07:57 am
old europe wrote:
Setanta wrote:
Among many more glaring examples of reprehensible public behavior (such as invading Poland at the drop of a hat), yes, Oktoberfest would be a good example.


So do you think that Americans who come to Germany and consume absolutely incredible amounts of beer do so in order to learn the art of invading-countries-at-the-drop-of-a-hat?

Oh, Americans have learned quite well how to invade countries.

We just need lessons in hat dropping . Oktoberfest seems to be the right place to learn hat dropping, pants dropping and just generally falling down.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2007 08:07 am
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Michael, like you, are irrelevant.


Is English your first language woiyo?
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woiyo
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jun, 2007 08:20 am
ebrown_p wrote:
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Michael, like you, are irrelevant.


Is English your first language woiyo?


Get on the subject matter or just go away you annoying little rodent!

Sh!theads like you and Michael et, al.. are making this site become less enjoyable as a place to share ideas. Mad
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