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TX redistricting OK'd; appeal to be made to USSC

 
 
Tartarin
 
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Reply Fri 22 Aug, 2003 01:56 pm
PDiddie -- An email from MoveOn indicates that they've raised $300K more for the Tex Dems in 24 hours -- totalling $700K. They're looking for $300K more ($1M total) for a media blitz (national), in case you'd like to contribute and haven't already!!
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mamajuana
 
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Reply Fri 22 Aug, 2003 03:37 pm
I also read that at the Governors Association meeting in Indianapolis, some of the democratic governors said it was just as possible for them to call for redistricting in areas where it would hurt republicans.

In view of this, it does seem that those Texas republicans represent another addition to the rule for this administration - the rule that says everybody but us is dumb, deaf, and blind. The same rule that's winning them points in Iraq.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Sat 23 Aug, 2003 07:48 am
If you want the real news about Texas and the Texas Dems, count on the Austin Chronicle:

The battle over congressional re-redistricting hit a new level of pettiness and absurdity on Aug. 15, as the rump Senate attempted to tighten the screws on the Albuquerque 11 by adding sanctions to the daily personal fines imposed a few days earlier. This time, on a motion of Jane Nelson, R-Lewisville, 18 of the 19 Republican members endorsed what were described as the absent Democratic senators' "perks" -- cell phones, travel allowances, supply purchases, mail service, subscriptions, staff passes to the Senate floor, and parking spots. The additional penalties appeared to reflect frustration as much as any serious attempt at legislative discipline; several Republican members complained that they had been forced into this awkward position by their absent colleagues. "This is sad," said Bryan's Steve Ogden. "There's not a single person here who wants to do this." Indeed, the 30-minute nonsession of the "at-ease" Senate often sounded like a gathering of disappointed parents complaining to the Democrats' empty chairs, "This hurts us more than it does you." Actually, as several Republicans also half-acknowledged, the new penalties will hurt the absent Dems' staff and constituents more than the senators themselves. An apparently embarrassed Chris Harris, R-Arlington, asked Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst to clarify whether staffs work for individual senators or the Senate as a whole, and Dewhurst responded that they work for the entire Senate -- but that information had no visible effect on the discussion. Cutting off supplies and limiting mail (senators will be allowed to "purchase" up to $200 in stamps, but the Lege post office will no longer pick up or deliver mail) will make constituent service more difficult, but hardly promises to force the return of the absentees by sine die (Aug. 26) any more than the unenforceable fines, which will mount to $57,000 each by the end of this stillborn second special session. To the fines -- which the Dems have called a "poll tax" imposed on minority senators by their Anglo colleagues -- Democratic Caucus Chair Leticia Van de Putte of San Antonio responded, "Ironically, this is the identical amount that Rick Perry's special sessions on redistricting are costing taxpayers per day. Here's an idea -- call off these redistricting sessions, we'll forget about the fines, and we'll call it even."
The silliest penalty is the removal of Capitol parking privileges, unlikely to have much effect on senators currently resident in an Albuquerque hotel. But the parking ban is also extended to staff members, because -- as San Antonio's Jeff Wentworth sternly pointed out -- the rump Senate doesn't want the sneaky Democrats to be able to return to Austin and use the staff spaces in place of their own. (The senators' exchange on the niceties of designated parking spaces was particularly edifying.) The net effect is to cut staffers' pay by $35 to $40 a week. "It's a sad day for Texas," said Beth Bryant, aide to Sen. Judith Zaffirini of Laredo, "when the Texas Senate attempts to punish staff members for the actions of their senators." In theory, should the senators eventually return to Austin (the Republicans reasoned) the parking spaces can be held hostage against the payment of the fines. That process should make for even more illuminating debate on the Senate floor.
Such was the august business of the Aug. 15 nonsession of the Texas Senate. Still looming is the threat of laying off staffers altogether, ominously suggested by reference to "further penalties" if the prodigal Democrats do not bow their heads and come home. It's not at all clear, of course, that the 19 Republicans, absent a quorum of 21, have the authority to do much of anything at all. And there weren't even really 19; the votes on the floor didn't even amount to an actual majority of 16. Three Republicans thought penalizing absent senators of such importance that they didn't bother to show up -- mailing in their support for the sanctions instead. Bill Ratliff, the mensch of Mount Pleasant, was also not at the meeting, having publicly washed his hands of the whole business earlier in the week when the fines were imposed (like this day, by voice vote, with Victoria Democrat Ken Armbrister voting no). Rumor had it that Ratliff wished to be recorded voting "No" on the sanctions, but the Senate journal clerk said she hadn't been contacted and Ratliff's office issued only a terse statement: "I choose not to be a party to this." Perhaps it had occurred to Ratliff, if to none of his colleagues, that a vote without a quorum is no vote at all.
In his absence, the chamber was thoroughly awash in sanctimony, as several Republicans insisted that the issue is not "redistricting," but health care and public education and transportation and trauma care and asbestos (yes, asbestos) ... and whatever. Particularly adamant was Wentworth, who insisted that the fight is in fact over whether "a minority is going to control the way we do business around here" and fumed that the Republicans are not about to "raise the white flag of surrender" to their Democratic colleagues. He cited previous instances when Democratic lieutenant governors Ben Barnes, Bill Hobby, and Bob Bullock each abandoned the two-thirds rule in special sessions called (under court order) to consider redistricting, though he neglected to note that in each of those cases, there weren't enough dissidents to break a quorum and the two-thirds rule never became an issue.
Significantly, Wentworth acknowledged that the R's are losing the public-relations war. He complained, "Texans believe we are trying to change the rules in the middle of the game." Considering that only two years ago, a GOP minority led by Waco's David Sibley deadlocked the Senate over redistricting by using the two-thirds rule -- and kept their parking privileges -- the conclusion that Wentworth rightly believes has been drawn by most Texans looks fairly close to the mark.
The sudden prominent role of Wentworth in this censure is itself puzzling. Only two weeks ago he was standing alongside Linda Curtis of the nonpartisan Independent Texans, promoting his perennial plan for a bipartisan redistricting commission. A week ago he told the Chronicle that support for that idea is growing because of the current deadlock, and Houston Democratic Rep. Scott Hochberg announced a similar bill (HB 49) last week. (Any bipartisan commission would not take effect before 2011, so at the moment this is all good-government grandstanding.) Yet here was Wentworth, strenuously beating the drums for increased penalties on his Democratic colleagues.
Moreover, following Friday's sanction vote, Dewhurst told reporters that the new penalties would take effect on Tuesday. A couple of hours later, Wentworth personally informed Senate Secretary Patsy Spaw that in fact they would take effect immediately, and reportedly on his orders she began suspending already-paid newspaper subscriptions and the afternoon mail soon languished in the offices of Senate Democrats. Wentworth says that Dewhurst had misunderstood a comment made at the post-session press conference and that in speaking to Spaw he was merely correcting that misunderstanding. "The penalties were always intended to take effect immediately," Wentworth said. "That was Senator Nelson's motion. We told Carleton [Sgt.-at-Arms Carleton Turner] not to tow anybody's car before five o'clock, but the penalties began immediately."
So much for Sen. Bipartisan. Perhaps Wentworth hears the Headless Horseman -- otherwise known as his deep-pocketed primary opponent John Shields -- bearing down on him in the dark from the right. He says, "I don't even run again until 2006, so that's not a factor." Or perhaps he truly believes that the argument is over whether "any 11 members can control the way we do business in this Senate." Alas, that is precisely the state of affairs under standard Senate procedures, when the two-thirds rule remains in place.
In one particularly tone-deaf moment, Sen. Craig Estes of Wichita Falls quoted Abraham Lincoln's second inaugural address, delivered in 1865 when the country was steeped in the blood of the Civil War. "With malice toward none, with charity for all," Estes began, and continued, "with God's help we will heal the wounds of this chamber." Earlier this year the Legislature mandated a "moment of silence" for all Texas schoolchildren. Perhaps in the next real session, it can issue a ban on any quotation of Lincoln employed in the defense of the white suburban vote and the return of the Old Dominion.
To point out the obvious -- that all the minority senators or those who represent majority-minority districts are in New Mexico, that all the Republicans are Anglos, and that at bottom this battle is over the civil rights and voting rights of minority Texans -- is simply to "play the race card," said Greenville's Bob Deuell. From Albuquerque, Zaffirini countered, "It is very clear. All of the Anglos who are representing Anglo districts are in Austin taking unprecedented illegal, immoral actions against all of us who are either minorities or representing minorities."
Choose your own augury -- but it is a cinch that Texas will continue to look very different from the barrios of Laredo than it does from Deuell's District 2 office in Mesquite. Dr. Deuell is apparently a man used to getting his phone calls returned -- Friday he cited U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay's failure to return his calls as de facto evidence that DeLay is not behind the GOP push for redistricting. It did not seem to occur to Sen. Deuell that when the House majority leader has a governor, a speaker of the House, and a lieutenant governor eagerly asking, "How high?" he hardly needs a freshman senator from Greenville to do any jumping.
http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/dispatch/2003-08-22/pols_lege.html

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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 27 Aug, 2003 08:22 am
the republican beat goes on and on and on:
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The Texas Legislature adjourned its second special session of the year Tuesday without passing a congressional redistricting bill, nearly a month after Senate Democrats broke a quorum by fleeing to New Mexico to block the measure. Republican Gov. Rick Perry said he would call yet another special session to try to get approval for new congressional boundaries. "When I call that session is strictly up to me, and I'll give the appropriate notice on the appropriate day," Perry said.
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roger
 
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Reply Wed 27 Aug, 2003 08:26 am
A+ for persistance, A for arrogance, F for integrity?
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Wed 27 Aug, 2003 09:41 am
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The Democrats are counting on a court hearing in Laredo, Texas, on Wednesday to begin clearing the way for their return. They've filed a lawsuit arguing that the state Senate, by throwing out a long-standing rule requiring two-thirds of the body to agree to bring measures up for debate, is violating the Voting Rights Act, since it scrapped the rule in order to pass maps that they say would disenfranchise minorities. The senators hope that, at the very least, the judge in Laredo would issue a restraining order prohibiting the state Senate from ramming through redistricting legislation pending a trial. Such an assurance would allow the Texas 11 to return home, at least for the time being.

On Tuesday, John Ashcroft's Department of Justice dealt the senators' case a blow, ruling that the Voting Rights Act has no bearing on the two-thirds rule, which calls into question the federal court's authority in the matter. At a mid-morning press conference, the senators stood before a Texas flag and insisted they were unfazed by the ruling. "The decision by the Justice Department this morning was expected," said Sen. Royce West. "When you have a political party that's in power, they control the Justice Department."

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Meanwhile, the Democrats are suffering the strain of being away from their families, their constituents and their jobs. Texas senators only earn $600 a month, and rely on other jobs to support themselves -- jobs they can't go back to as long as this deadlock persists. The liberal fundraising organization MoveOn.org has taken up the Texas Democrats' cause, and has already raised over $400,000 in its "Defend Democracy in Texas" campaign. But that money is going toward advertising and politicking, and won't be used to defray the senators' costs, which pile up every day they're away from home.

Still, the senators say, they'll hold out as long as they have to, though they decline to speculate about their next moves if they lose in Laredo. West says only, "We will continue to fight."

For Barrientos, this fight is about more than just Texas politics. "Looking at Florida, California, Texas, it's a little scary," he says. The Republicans, he says, have become "brazen enough to run Arnold Schwarzenegger for governor of a major state. We've gone from Tom DeLay, the exterminator, to the Terminator. Is this a bad dream?"

"Those people don't want to govern," he says. "They want to rule."


Salon.com (you must view an ad to read article)
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Wed 27 Aug, 2003 10:12 am
On local public radio this a.m., it was said that the Sen Dems have decided that for them to show at the Laredo hearing would be a bad idea. Rumor has it that the moment they're back in the state, Perry will call another special session and have them arrested.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Wed 27 Aug, 2003 11:21 am
In Texas, it seems to be more theatre than politics.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Wed 27 Aug, 2003 11:36 am
Hey, whatsa difference, Colorada?
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Wed 27 Aug, 2003 11:39 am
Ther is becomeing less and less, considering our Texan governer and Tom "Lock the Borders, and jail everyone who doesn't bleed red white and blue" Tancredo. Rolling Eyes
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 27 Aug, 2003 11:42 am
Tom Tacredo is our own Tom Delay
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Wed 27 Aug, 2003 11:45 am
And Ahnold coupla states ovah.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Wed 27 Aug, 2003 12:17 pm
dyslexia wrote:
Tom Tacredo is our own Tom Delay

he's pretty delayed, alright...I think they should put a special sign for him in the Capitol bldg. You know the one about lower velocity children at play?
I always find it amusing when virulent nativist sentiments are evoked by people who are obviously NOT Native Americans.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Wed 3 Sep, 2003 05:02 pm
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"The Albuquerque Democrats might as well learn the Ballad of the Alamo," R.G. Ratcliffe wrote in the Houston Chronicle on Labor Day, "because no reinforcements are coming and they're running out of ammunition."

Their situation grew dramatically worse on Tuesday, when one of their number, state Sen. John Whitmire of Houston, enraged his comrades by deciding to return home because he saw no end to the deadlock. Without him, the Democratic group doesn't have enough people to deny Republicans a quorum and thus stop them from passing their redistricting plans. Yet the remaining Texas 10 still say they're not going home. While most press accounts cast them as opponents of a Republican plan to grab power by redrawing legislative districts, the lawmakers-in-exile here see something at once more subtle and more important: the latest chapter in the South's long, ugly war over minority voting rights.

Nine of the 10 senators remaining in Albuquerque are black or Hispanic; the other one represents a district that is mainly minority. And within a few years, experts say, Texas will join California as a state where Latinos, African-Americans and other minorities will outnumber Anglos.

So it is not far-fetched to say that how this drama unfolds will determine whether minority voters in Texas gain power proportionate to their numbers. That's why several Texas Democrats are trying to hold firm even as their audacious gambit gives way to a protracted, depressing slog and their unity begins to crack.


Texas stalemate: all about race
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 3 Sep, 2003 05:14 pm
Tis a sad say when unity is lost -
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Thu 4 Sep, 2003 05:18 pm
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Texas Dems: Bush is part of GOP power grabBy SUZANNE GAMBOA
Associated Press

WASHINGTON - Texas state Democrats brought President Bush into their redistricting fight Thursday, accusing him of trampling minority voting rights and being part of a Republican national power grab.
Three of the remaining 10 Democratic state senators who fled Texas over the redistricting dispute were in Washington to promote new radio and TV ads that will run in swing presidential states including Florida, Illinois, Missouri, Ohio, Arizona, New York, Nevada and Texas, along with the District of Columbia.
The ads, which will begin running within the next two weeks, were paid for from funds raised by Moveon.org, an Internet group formed in the late 1990s to oppose the impeachment of then-President Clinton.
The Democrats said Thursday they are trying to expose involvement of Bush, presidential adviser Karl Rove and House Majority Leader Tom DeLay in the Texas redistricting effort and the last-minute redrawing of a congressional map in Colorado.
http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/nation/6693047.htm



And from a email just received from MoveOn.org

Quote:
Our hard-hitting ad ran in the NY Times today. The headline is
"President Bush: Don't Mess with Texas. Don't Mess with Democracy."
You can view the ad here:
http://www.moveon.org/press/ads/Texas.pdf
- Local advertising supporting the Senators has begun in Texas,
at first on radio.
- Three Texas State Senators spoke to a packed press conference in
Washington D.C. today, announcing their continued commitment to
defeat the Texas gerrymander. I've attached their statement from
this conference below.
- Unfortunately, one of the Texas 11, Senator Whitmire, has
returned to Texas. It's yet not known exactly what his plans are
and what impact this will have but the fight continues.
- Our work to connect the dots is taking hold. CNN "Inside Politics"
today aired a segment with this theme: "The 4 R's: Remove (Clinton),
Recount (Florida), Redistricting (Texas), Recall (California)",
featuring interviews with the Senators. The national media is
getting the message!
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mamajuana
 
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Reply Thu 4 Sep, 2003 10:38 pm
That New York Times ad was a doozy. Good position, clear, striking.

Now, didn't I hear something about Gov Richardson gently saying to the Texas governor that he was thinking maybe of offering a little redistricting plan in his state? Texas republicans are stupid. On the news tonight it was said plainly that DeLay wants more seats from Texas so he can become the whip. The eyes on Texas are not laughing. This has ceased to be funny and is now ugly.
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Italgato
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2003 03:49 am
It would appear that Senator Whitmire's return to Texas may cause the governor to recall the legislators for another vote to approve redistricting.

If that happens, can the Democrats take the loss of another six or seven House Seats in DC????
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Italgato
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2003 03:52 am
I really do not understand Tartarin's quotation under the 4 R's- Move on

It says: Remove ( Clinton)??????????????????????
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 5 Sep, 2003 04:56 am
move-on.com offered the opinion that the 4 r's of the Rove/Bush admin started with the "Remove Clinton" efforts of the House of Reps.
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