Laughing a bit too hard for a statement which makes quite a bit of sense. From the trial we know Cheney was involved in the leak though the proof was described as cloudy. If Libby had to actually serve time in jail for that length of time I imagine he might have been tempted to clear up some of those clouds in order to get out jail sooner.
Furthermore, according to Fitzgerald the sentencing was in accordance with the rule of law.
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Bush's commuting the sentence is also in accordance of the law.
McGentrix wrote:Bush's commuting the sentence is also in accordance of the law.
So was Clinton pardoning Rich, don't make it right.
I never said Bush commuting Libby's sentence was against the law.
Then what is your point to this obvious circumstance?
woiyo wrote:Then what is your point to this obvious circumstance?
I made my point a few posts back.
The exercise of executive clemency is inherently controversial. The reason the framers of our Constitution vested this broad power in the Executive Branch was to assure that the president would have the freedom to do what he deemed to be the right thing, regardless of how unpopular a decision might be. Some of the uses of the power have been extremely controversial, such as President Washington's pardons of leaders of the Whiskey Rebellion, President Harding's commutation of the sentence of Eugene Debs, President Nixon's commutation of the sentence of James Hoffa, President Ford's pardon of former President Nixon, President Carter's pardon of Vietnam War draft resisters, and President Bush's 1992 pardon of six Iran-contra defendants, including former Defense Secretary Weinberger, which assured the end of that investigation.
On Jan. 20, 2001, I granted 140 pardons and issued 36 commutations. During my presidency, I issued a total of approximately 450 pardons and commutations, compared to 406 issued by President Reagan during his two terms. During his four years, President Carter issued 566 pardons and commutations, while in the same length of time President Bush granted 77. President Ford issued 409 during the slightly more than two years he was president.
Get a grip folks!
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This is not a partisan issue. It should piss everyone off on both sides. It should show us just how corrupt our government has become. People in positions of power can break the law and then be let completely off the hook right in front of our faces, and all we can do is bicker about partisan bullshit. It's both sides. It's our government being corrupted further and further right before our eyes. And we seem to be okay with it, unless it's the other side doing it. What these fatcat assh*les are doing is blatantly pissing all over the law, no matter how you look at it.
Our government has no ethical compass anymore. Ah, screw it. It's good entertainment watching our government eat itself from within.
Quote: IF THE SHRUB PARDONS LIBBY...
It will be a good thing. Justice will have been well served. The whole controversy was a made up creation born out of political controversy and malice. There was no crime, and all of the actors in this sorry game, including the special prosecutor Fitzgerald, were pursuing their partisan political goals.
It's partisan only when it's about the republicans being charged. There was nothing partisan about the impeachment of Bill Clinton by the GOP congress.
Roxxxanne wrote:Since it should be obvious that the sentence was commuted to prevent Libby from turning on Cheney and Bush, this act constitutes Obstruction of Justice.
Although this pardon was most improper, it is perfectly within the legal rights of the President. Also, something being obvious to you doesn't constitute legals grounds for anything. They actually need evidence. People don't go to jail based on "where there's smoke there's fire."
Libby lied to the FBI and grand jury. He was charged with those crimes.
georgeob1 wrote:cicerone imposter wrote:Libby lied to the FBI and grand jury. He was charged with those crimes.
So did Clinton.
And they both deserved to be punished for doing so.
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kickycan wrote:This is not a partisan issue. It should piss everyone off on both sides. It should show us just how corrupt our government has become. People in positions of power can break the law and then be let completely off the hook right in front of our faces, and all we can do is bicker about partisan bullshit. It's both sides. It's our government being corrupted further and further right before our eyes. And we seem to be okay with it, unless it's the other side doing it. What these fatcat assh*les are doing is blatantly pissing all over the law, no matter how you look at it.
Our government has no ethical compass anymore. Ah, screw it. It's good entertainment watching our government eat itself from within.
What makes you thin Libby was "let off the hook"?
He still has to pay a huge fine,he will lose his law license and therefore be disbarred,he will lose his right to vote,and he will be a convicted felon and therefore ineligible for many jobs.
That sure doesnt sound like being "let off the hook" to me.
But Clinton wasn't punished. Indeed, apart from the impeachment, no criminal charges were filed.
