Who Is Buried in Bush's Speech?

I think you're right about that, Tartarin. Do you suppose you could get that message to one of them? It may be one important winning card. It's a high card because we're in such danger now and the voters will appreciate someone who will get us back on our feet, free from the adolescent games that are threatening the peace of the entire world.

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Lola -- Dean has a blog to which anyone can contribute. I'm told it's well monitored at "HQ."

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au1929 wrote:

National Security Aide Says He's to Blame for Speech Error

By DAVID E. SANGER with JUDITH MILLER

[]ASHINGTON, July 22 — President Bush's deputy national security adviser accepted blame today for allowing faulty intelligence to appear in the president's State of the Union speech. He took responsibility after revealing that the Central Intelligence Agency had sent him two memorandums warning that evidence about Iraqi efforts to obtain uranium in Africa was weak.
The deputy adviser, Stephen J. Hadley, a critical behind-the-scenes player in the Bush White House, told reporters that while he received the memorandums before the president gave a speech about Iraq in October, he had no memory of the warning three months later when the issue came up again in the State of the Union address. He said the two memorandums had been discovered in the last 72 hours.

The finger keeps pointing downward. The night porter on the third shift at the White House may end up being the culprit.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/23/politics/23INTE.html?th

The Boston Globe article says he stated behind closed doors that he'd never read the speach. Never read it!?! Doesn't it seem an important speach to have a third shift guy not read?

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Don't forget what Tenet said
LittleK wrote: "The Boston Globe article says he stated behind closed doors that he'd never read the speach. Never read it!?! Doesn't it seem an important speach to have a third shift guy not read?"

Don't forget what Tenet said, or was reported that he said: An Administration official INSISTED that the 16 words be in Bush's speech.

On July 17, I posted under "The Truth is oozing out like a slime trail":

"Who is the Bush Administration Official the CIA's George Tenet revealed?
Remember these names: Robert G. Joseph and Stephen Hadley, members of Bush's National Security Council.

-----BumbleBeeBoogie"

Why hasn't Robert Joseph admitted that he is the one whom Tenet stated did the insisting?

The Bushies must hope that the Media will forget Joseph following Hadley's confession and will also forget that both of these men work for Condi Rice.

The Bushies were very smart. They had Hadley confess immediately after the news of the killing of Saddam's sons because they knew the topic would be overshaddowed by the war news. But a confession under cover is still a confession and the Media and we should not forget it.

---BumbleBeeBoogie

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Who will accept the blame next? That IS the question. c.i.

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cicerone imposter wrote:

Who will accept the blame next? That IS the question. c.i.

dubya never accepted responsibility for anything in his life.

the guy is a disgusting little creep who should be impeached, convicted, removed from office, then tried and convicted for treason and sent to gitmo to live out the rest of his sorry ass life in a 8' by 8' wire cage.

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My sentiments exactly, kuvatz.........or at least returned to West Texas where he belongs.

And Bumblebee, it seems true what you've said. The placing of a hopefully forgetable confession at the same time there's "good news" or "encouraging news" from Iraq. The way it's marketed, like "see we ARE liberators." Of course, presidents and their advisors have been doing this for years. All politicians have gotten better at it. It's within the limits of fair play. But I think you're right, it's up to the press and the populace to keep an eye on the ball.

Yesterday as I listened to the report of the death of Saddam's sons, there was one opinion stated about how liberated the people now are, how disgusting these guys were, how thankful and relieved the Iraqi people now are because of the bravery and dedication of the good ole USA. But the reporter on the scene as asked about the mood in the town. He said the citizens of the town were angry. They hate the Americans and are angry that they've put the citizens of the town's safety at risk. Truly it's good that these to scum have departed this earth. But who will take their place? And do we have the resources to be in charge of the manipulation of the entire world? I think the USA has the "big head" as my family would say. It's dangerous to begin to believe you're more powerful or more in control over events and people than you really are. We need a little reality here.............I only hope the press will continue to do it's job.

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I like Kuvasz's version better.

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Our culture has learned not to take responsibility for ourselves. That didn't happen overnight; it took decades. Since most Americans are also in that mold, they completely understand GWBush. Shift the blame to everybody but yourself; it works. c.i.

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True, little k.....if I really get into it, me too.

However, I have to recognize, as much as I hate to, that on some level, GW is doing what he consciously believes to be right and helpful. I think it's up to those of us how differ with his opinion to try to change his ability to carry it out. The voters of this country are responsible for GW's ability to wreck havoc on the entire world. We're the ones who put him in office and caused the Congress to be controlled by the same types of people. And only we can stop him. I think we should get together and find a way to throw him back into his brair patch where he's mostly only hurting himself and his loved ones and go on about the work of healing the enormous injury caused by his mistaken and destructive ideas and values.

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Lola wrote:

True, little k.....if I really get into it, me too.

However, I have to recognize, as much as I hate to, that on some level, GW is doing what he consciously believes to be right and helpful. I think it's up to those of us how differ with his opinion to try to change his ability to carry it out. The voters of this country are responsible for GW's ability to wreck havoc on the entire world. We're the ones who put him in office and caused the Congress to be controlled by the same types of people. And only we can stop him. I think we should get together and find a way to throw him back into his brair patch where he's mostly only hurting himself and his loved ones and go on about the work of healing the enormous injury caused by his mistaken and destructive ideas and values.

i hate to argue with a lady who has such great legs, but.... you have bought into the narrative presented by conservatives about bush. he is not an honest man, nor one who particularly believes in anything but unbridled power.

the use of the conservative narrative about bush being a man of beliefs allows the discussion to be played on the field of ideologies, not facts.

bush has lied repeatedly, has been dishonest in his personal and professional life, repeatedly, and has been shown to be such a caulous, vindictive little prick that i am surprised that at least one of the multitude of people he has screwed has not busted a cap in his ass by now.

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kuvasz, More like dynamite. Wink

c.i.

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I agree with Kuvasz -- Bush is doing what he thinks is right for himself and his buddies. I don't believe that there is any sense of morality involved -- just money and power.

I do agree that we need to take responsibility for his being in power and now, for getting him out. It's all up to us. If we keep on top of the situation and the press, then maybe we'll all get the pleasure of watching the cap (or dynamite) go off before he decides to invade another country.

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We all thought Saddam was dangerous. c.i.

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Honesty and integrity are two words I would never use in the same sentence as Bush administation. We have to remember - he WASN'T elected.

An honest president with integrity would have said by now, "I said those words in my State of the Union speech, and I shouldn't have." Instead, the WH keeps coming up with name after name to blame. Something Bush does use a lot of is the word "I". "I" said, I told, I am......he has a country, I guess, that follows I.

The press may be getting a little freer. A test will be to see what they do with the continuing Iraqi story. They are hoping the killing of the two Hussein sons will knock everything else out, but I doubt that. There was another attack today, and the Times speculates on what would have happened if the huge reward hadn't been offered. On the other hand, one of the leading cartoonists for the Charlotte Observer said he had been told in 2001 never to do anything that was derogatory about Bush.

Doesn't it seem that we are now in confused times? What to believe, where, whom? Meanwhie, the defeat I pray for has little to do with a foreign country, unless it is a strong factor in bringing that defeat.

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mamajuana wrote:

The press may be getting a little freer. A test will be to see what they do with the continuing Iraqi story...

Doesn't it seem that we are now in confused times? What to believe, where, whom? Meanwhie, the defeat I pray for has little to do with a foreign country, unless it is a strong factor in bringing that defeat.

Two astute observations, ma.

The House voted today, 400-21 to reverse the FCC's ruling on consolidating media ownership, rejecting the appeals of Republican leadership and defying the threat of a presidential veto.

This is HUUUGE. House Republicans were overwhelmed by the grassroots on this one. They chose to cross DeLay and Bush instead of their constituents. You don't see that kind of populism very often any more.

And (though this wasn't exactly your expressed concern) I likewise find myself nearly overwhelmed by the daily--nearly hourly--developments with this Administration, Iraq, and the various political ramifications of their full-court press on American liberties, values, and sensibilities.

It's almost as if they KNOW that they've only got another year and a half to jam through all of their horseshit and they are working 24/7 to do so.

It's just about all I can do to keep up with the stories, much less respond or plan a counter-attack.

Which is why the focus on meaningless crap like whether Kobe Bryant is guilty of rape annoys me even more than it would normally.

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Hey -- morality, integrity? They're for wusses.

I hope you all saw, read, reread, laughed, wept at Dowd's column in today's Times. I've been off buying a new car. Just in time to drive past a lethal shooting in San Antonio. Ah, the big, free American world...

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"Lethal shooting in San Antonio?" There was also one in NYC, and I think two got killed. c.i.

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Couple down in SA, I think. Disgruntled Century 21 agent shoots two. I think they said dead on the radio. Stopped traffic on 1604, the most dangerous highway in... Texas? the nation? Then came the NY news. Then came news of the blah-blah commission report on 9/11.

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"Disgruntled Century 21 agent shoots two."

Customers or co-workers, I wonder. (I'll go off and find out for myself...)

What kinda car you buy, Tart? You can PM me if you like so we don't digress the thread...

eidted fer speling :wink:

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